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Watching you tube every day at school

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Slimeblimeclimb · 06/05/2024 11:08

My DC is in yr1. They are a class of 30 with a teacher and a TA. Every day he comes home and mentions that they have spent at least some time watching you tube eg pink panther or Tom and Jerry and sometimes it is an action song. I feel this is not normal/ my expectation, but I recognise that I did not grow up in this country. AIBU?

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ageratum1 · 08/05/2024 00:26

BlueBlahBlah · 06/05/2024 13:52

I just think it’s lazy TBH and I would be having words with the head. Not my expectation that my kid goes to school and watched TV/ YouTube, esp. when there’s no educational value to it.

A year 1 teacher will be anything but lazy!

LyndaLaHughes · 07/05/2024 21:59

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:15

You need to go to the HT.

Safeguarding guidelines require schools, LAs and trusts to look carefully at their IT infrastructure. If a teacher is using youtube in the classroom, there is a risk pupils exposed to inappropriate adverts or, worse, some content doctored to have distressing images spliced into the middle of the programme.

You need to share your concern that the choice of content has low value (why not read a class book to the children?) and also that you’d like to know what filtering and monitoring mechanisms the school has in place.

Never feel you can’t got to a HT. They appreciate a sensible parent’s insight.

Please tell me this is satire and not a serious post. I despair.

Malbecfan · 07/05/2024 20:36

BlueBlahBlah · 07/05/2024 20:27

That’s great @Malbecfan but I doubt that’s what’s happening with the 5 and 6 yr olds that the OP mentioned.

Indeed, but I was refuting your initial comment that Tom and Jerry "holds no educational content".

In the case of the OP, their DC could be watching something equally as beneficial, but only remembering that it was on YouTube. The OP needs to get all the facts before talking to the teacher. As for the nonsense from @HFJ ; my Head would laugh you out of the building, because he trusts my professional judgement.

wonderingwhatlifemeans · 07/05/2024 20:30

We use you tube a lot as it is linked to the online curriculum we subscribe to. I have to be authenticated before I can use it and that has to be redone after an hour has passed so if I use it first thing in the morning and I want to reuse it at the end of the day I would need to re authenticate. The action songs may Jack Hartman who is fab although I do get my children to use their posh maths voices when saying the numbers.

Numberblocks was our choice during snack time but my current class are too old for them. I miss joining in with the children singing the intro and calling out answers!

Needanewname42 · 07/05/2024 20:30

BlueBlahBlah · 07/05/2024 20:27

That’s great @Malbecfan but I doubt that’s what’s happening with the 5 and 6 yr olds that the OP mentioned.

I'm sure if the teacher came across any inappropriate content she wouldn't be using it.

BlueBlahBlah · 07/05/2024 20:27

That’s great @Malbecfan but I doubt that’s what’s happening with the 5 and 6 yr olds that the OP mentioned.

Malbecfan · 07/05/2024 20:17

BlueBlahBlah · 06/05/2024 23:15

@MamaGarl85 @LyndaLaHughes
The OP mentioned Tom & Jerry I think was it? That holds no educational value as far as I’m aware. Other things on YouTube that could be deemed educational I’d have less problem with, as long as not for prolonged periods.
And for the OP to go to HT - doesn’t have to be to complain, but to make them aware and question it so it can be looked into what exactly it is they’re watching and essentially whether what the child is saying is accurate - I didn’t necessarily mean to get them in trouble.

@BlueBlahBlah I used 2 Tom and Jerry cartoons today in my year 8 lesson on film music. The music is such an inherent part of why the cartoons are so successful. In one, we discussed the use of different instruments to represent the characters and particular moods. Then we saw and heard examples of Mickey-mousing. We noted the use of a whole-tone scale to represent an ascent to "heaven" then the discords of "hell". All of these are key terms in the GCSE specification, so your assertion that Tom and Jerry "holds no educational value" is bollocks.

Before every lesson, I make sure there are no adverts before or during the clips, so kids are not subject to inappropriate content.

At A level, to be able to hear a symphony and have the full score on screen is an absolute Godsend. We cannot afford to buy scores for each piece for every student, so YouTube is just brilliant.

Some people need to trust that teachers do actually know what they are doing and perhaps not believe every word that comes out of their DC's mouth.

ballsdeep · 07/05/2024 19:55

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:15

You need to go to the HT.

Safeguarding guidelines require schools, LAs and trusts to look carefully at their IT infrastructure. If a teacher is using youtube in the classroom, there is a risk pupils exposed to inappropriate adverts or, worse, some content doctored to have distressing images spliced into the middle of the programme.

You need to share your concern that the choice of content has low value (why not read a class book to the children?) and also that you’d like to know what filtering and monitoring mechanisms the school has in place.

Never feel you can’t got to a HT. They appreciate a sensible parent’s insight.

What a load of rubbish!

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 16:01

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:57

Parent still has a right to ask what the school policy is on use of youtube in school, whether policies are being followed and whether children sufficiently safeguarded.

sure, they have the right to ask... and the maths policy, and the reading book policy, and the playground policy, and if the children are sufficiently safeguarded with all those policies, go ahead, ask about as many policies as you want. You tube isn't any more "dangerous" than reading books - I found "where the wind blows" on my son's school bookshelf when he was about 6

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:57

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 15:33

(why not read a class book to the children?)

But we do that to! it isn't either/or you know - and plenty of learning is far better done visually.

Parent still has a right to ask what the school policy is on use of youtube in school, whether policies are being followed and whether children sufficiently safeguarded.

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 15:33

(why not read a class book to the children?)

But we do that to! it isn't either/or you know - and plenty of learning is far better done visually.

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 15:32

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:15

You need to go to the HT.

Safeguarding guidelines require schools, LAs and trusts to look carefully at their IT infrastructure. If a teacher is using youtube in the classroom, there is a risk pupils exposed to inappropriate adverts or, worse, some content doctored to have distressing images spliced into the middle of the programme.

You need to share your concern that the choice of content has low value (why not read a class book to the children?) and also that you’d like to know what filtering and monitoring mechanisms the school has in place.

Never feel you can’t got to a HT. They appreciate a sensible parent’s insight.

school filters are pretty robust. if the filter isn't robust enough, that is a separate issue, not a you-tube issue

HFJ · 07/05/2024 15:15

You need to go to the HT.

Safeguarding guidelines require schools, LAs and trusts to look carefully at their IT infrastructure. If a teacher is using youtube in the classroom, there is a risk pupils exposed to inappropriate adverts or, worse, some content doctored to have distressing images spliced into the middle of the programme.

You need to share your concern that the choice of content has low value (why not read a class book to the children?) and also that you’d like to know what filtering and monitoring mechanisms the school has in place.

Never feel you can’t got to a HT. They appreciate a sensible parent’s insight.

Needanewname42 · 07/05/2024 14:59

Op I'd assume its 10min at the end of the day before hometime, after she's got her class tidied up for the day, kids are tired by then.

Seriously its a few minutes that the kids will love and remember.

As a child I remember playing heads down thumbs up in that last few minutes before the bell.
I also had an amazing teacher who'd read a book, with huge enthusiasm 😀 a chapter or two each day. The best teacher ever.

GoFaster83 · 07/05/2024 14:43

I use loads of movement break songs/ dances, counting songs, Geraldine Giraffe for Phonics. The only time it's something silly/ non educational is either wet play or the very end of the day when I have to have 1:1 conversations and fill out home-school journals.

MamaGarl85 · 07/05/2024 14:35

I think with little ones especially, its a long day, their brains can't be constantly on the go and they need a little 10 minute or so "time out"

I am sure no teacher is using YouTube constantly!

changewashing · 07/05/2024 11:27

Slimeblimeclimb · 06/05/2024 11:30

Thanks. Will check with my son if eg at home time or similarly something related to what they are learning. Would love it if it was newsround. Tom and jerry and pink panther seems just time filling to me.

It's probably just timers

Slimeblimeclimb · 07/05/2024 11:20

Thank you for giving me so many things to think about. I fully agree with using you tube in an educational manner, but got many other thoughts around e.g. maybe 'less educational' you tube being used with snack or tidying up etc, which is not what I initially imagined, but is more likely the case. This is why I posted on Mumsnet first so thank you for engaging with the question.

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rosesinmygarden · 07/05/2024 08:19

I work in a school and we use YouTube or similar daily for various reasons ...

  • watching newsround
  • watching a story being read
  • watching a video clip to support learning
  • watching a cartoon/number blocks while they drink their milk/eat fruit
  • doing yoga
  • doing a movement break to an action song
  • calming music/images while writing
  • tidy up music/video
  • days of the week video
  • learning a maths concept

These are just a few examples. All completely legitimate and rarely for more than a few minutes.

For some children, it's the bit of their day they remember so they mention it at home. I wouldn't think too deeply about it. Or assume that the teachers are being lazy.

BingoMarieHeeler · 07/05/2024 08:13

Well I mean, I did grow up in this country but YouTube wasn’t around when today’s parents were kids. But now is available the world over, probably in your home country too. So that’s not really part of it.

I was shocked when I learnt how much the school relies on YouTube too. We went into lockdown halfway through my eldest’s reception year, so a lot of homeschool came along with a YouTube video of course, but he already knew loads of songs and dances from watching YouTube at school. I was shocked! But a lot of what our school seems to use from YouTube is pretty good/informative.

It’s when they watch things like Octonauts, Bluey, Disney that I question it more!

BlueBlahBlah · 07/05/2024 08:08

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 08:01

It is not lazy. I spend a long time going through you tube to find the most appropriate videos for my class, and then designing resources, questions, etc to go alongside it You tube is an excellent teaching resource.

That’s great IF THERE IS EDUCATIONAL VALUE, but the OP is implying that Pink Panther and Tom & Jerry are being watched daily. If that is the case than I personally feel that’s a bit of a cop out.
@alloweraoway if you’re choosing specific YouTube videos and creating resources to go alongside that, of course that’s not lazy. But IF a teacher is just sticking cartoons on for the class every day, I wouldn’t be happy with that.

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 08:01

BlueBlahBlah · 06/05/2024 13:52

I just think it’s lazy TBH and I would be having words with the head. Not my expectation that my kid goes to school and watched TV/ YouTube, esp. when there’s no educational value to it.

It is not lazy. I spend a long time going through you tube to find the most appropriate videos for my class, and then designing resources, questions, etc to go alongside it You tube is an excellent teaching resource.

BlueBlahBlah · 07/05/2024 07:56

IncognitoUsername · 07/05/2024 07:34

Lazy?! Two adults trying to reunite 30 children, two with SEN, with their (unlabelled) jumpers and (also unlabelled) water bottles, put myriad bump notes and party invites into bags, change a nappy, check who is in after school club etc etc. If that’s lazy then I’d hate to be busy.

That’s quite a specific jump to make! 😄

IncognitoUsername · 07/05/2024 07:34

BlueBlahBlah · 06/05/2024 13:52

I just think it’s lazy TBH and I would be having words with the head. Not my expectation that my kid goes to school and watched TV/ YouTube, esp. when there’s no educational value to it.

Lazy?! Two adults trying to reunite 30 children, two with SEN, with their (unlabelled) jumpers and (also unlabelled) water bottles, put myriad bump notes and party invites into bags, change a nappy, check who is in after school club etc etc. If that’s lazy then I’d hate to be busy.

Notsoflirtythirty · 07/05/2024 07:33

I'd disagree that there is no educational value to Tom and Jerry and pink panther, it's teaching children to recognise situations and facial expression without word, you'd be surprised if you asked them how many children wouldn't pick up on how Tom for example was feeling by looking at his face. But again it would depend on the context of it being used.

We use YouTube usually for movement breaks, or to find song's for the child, we sometimes put something on for them during fruit and snack. Or if it's a wet break time play. Some children actually really need 10 minutes down time, and it mixes it up from a story which some struggle to engage in. But would depend on how long its put on for.