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Worried DD is going to end up with an unequal relationship

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andthatsaswan · 06/05/2024 10:39

My DD is 25, last summer (age 24!) she married a man 20 years older than her. I’ll be honest the relationship has always made me uncomfortable but I’ve been supportive for DDs sake. This man is well off, tbh I’m not sure how to measure how well off he is, DD has never given me a figure, but very comfortable, he works in finance, in a C-Suite role and has a good chunk of inheritance from his family behind him. He is nice enough, he worships DD and I do believe he’d never want to see her come to harm.

DD is 16 weeks pregnant, they currently live in a flat in west London, DD is working in a prep school as a teacher (entirely by choice rather than need, part-time with small class sizes), they are mortgage free.

I had dinner with DD last night and she told me the plan is to buy somewhere rural, a large house in either Berkshire, Buckinghamshire or Surrey. Sell the current flat and get a smaller 1 bed in London. Then her partner will stay in the flat Monday night - Thursday morning, he works from home Monday and Friday so he could come home for that. She won’t work at all.
Now this seems like a terrible idea to me! The house she showed me is up for 2 mil!!! Now I don’t know if any of that will be mortgage or not but I somewhat doubt it. Surely with the 2 million + a 1 bed flat they could find something in London that would mean he was home every night.
When DD was showing the house it sounded like she was planning at least 1 if not 2 more children and I just worry about her being out in the middle of nowhere with the baby/children alone while he is living his best life. It feels very unequal and as though he’s not really prepared to give up his freedom for his family.

AIBU to be worried about this and think it’s an awful idea? Should I try talk DD out of it?

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AllCatsAreAutistic · 07/05/2024 05:16

Has your daughter factored in the possibility of being traded in for a younger model in twenty years or so?

CurlewKate · 07/05/2024 05:09

@BIossomtoes "I’d be ashamed to be such an inadequate parent that I couldn’t manage on my own for three days."
It's not about not being able to manage. It's about planning a new lifestyle which it makes it necessary. And a new father being happy to spend so much time away from his baby .

SluggyMuggy · 07/05/2024 01:44

Okay, I do not consider that rural. I take your point that it depends what OP means by rural.

PegasusReturns · 07/05/2024 01:32

I really disagree with this. She is not moving to a City with lots of baby classes but to a rural area. This may mean she has to drive a fair distance to go to any groups. Not always easy with a new baby and no support.

I moved to the Home Counties after DC2. It was non stop baby massage/yoga; NCT coffee mornings; toddler painting classes; baby ballet; rhyme time and baby swimming all morphing into long lunches and plenty of tea and cake. And that was almost twenty years ago. I don’t think the OPs DD is going to be troubled by lack of activities.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 23:38

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 23:03

Why would a nanny be far more effective?

Training, experience, competence, knowledge, professionalism.

Depends on the nanny.

DH and I learned how to parent together. I wouldn’t want anyone else by my side.

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 23:03

Why would a nanny be far more effective?

Training, experience, competence, knowledge, professionalism.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 22:57

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 22:10

Even though a nanny would be far more effective? Good thing military wives on their own for months on end manage to cope, isn’t it? I’d be ashamed to be such an inadequate parent that I couldn’t manage on my own for three days.

Why would a nanny be far more effective?

I would manage the odd night if I had to or for illness, emergencies etc but I wouldn’t want to so I wouldn’t be with someone in the military or the such like.

I wouldn’t want a nannys support at home, I’d want my husbands support.

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 22:29

wintersgold · 06/05/2024 22:19

She didn't say she couldn't cope, she said she would not want to. There's a big difference and IMO it's very reasonable to expect the father to play an active role in parenting his children.

Of course it’s a reasonable expectation but he can do that without being available seven days a week. Especially if there’s other support like a nanny.

wintersgold · 06/05/2024 22:19

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 22:10

Even though a nanny would be far more effective? Good thing military wives on their own for months on end manage to cope, isn’t it? I’d be ashamed to be such an inadequate parent that I couldn’t manage on my own for three days.

She didn't say she couldn't cope, she said she would not want to. There's a big difference and IMO it's very reasonable to expect the father to play an active role in parenting his children.

ageratum1 · 06/05/2024 22:18

It sounds like trying out the storyline for a chick lit novel, rather than a real scenario.

SabreIsMyFave · 06/05/2024 22:15

🙄

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 22:10

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 21:59

I agree.

I wouldn’t want to parent 3 days and nights myself. A nanny wouldn’t be good enough for me, I’d want my children’s other parent to want to parent their child every day too.

Even though a nanny would be far more effective? Good thing military wives on their own for months on end manage to cope, isn’t it? I’d be ashamed to be such an inadequate parent that I couldn’t manage on my own for three days.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 21:59

Whatifthehokeycokey · 06/05/2024 20:42

I wouldn't be putting up with three consecutive days and nights every week. But my DH is a very active co-parent so it would feel like a big difference. It seems like for some people on here they would barely notice.

I agree.

I wouldn’t want to parent 3 days and nights myself. A nanny wouldn’t be good enough for me, I’d want my children’s other parent to want to parent their child every day too.

BruFord · 06/05/2024 21:20

As her parent, your main concern is for her and your unborn grandchild’s future welfare-that’s fair enough.

Obviously she’s going to make her own decisions, but when they’re buying a house, I don’t think it would be overstepping to remark that it’s best if she’s also on the deeds just in case something happened to her DH. She may easily not be on the mortgage (assuming they need one) due to his high income.

Perhaps it would be overstepping, but she and your grandchild are your priorities.

PoppyCherryDog · 06/05/2024 20:52

I don’t think it’s that unusual lots of parents live away part of the week for work. Especially before covid.

Bestyearever2024 · 06/05/2024 20:46

Is it really what DD wants or does she want it because HE wants it and hes paying?

Moving to somewhere where DD has family or friends close by, would be better....if husband is insisting on not living in London

Will she have an au pair/nanny/housekeeper/gardener?

Whatifthehokeycokey · 06/05/2024 20:42

Getonwitit · 06/05/2024 17:39

It really is not a lot to be looking after children 3 nights a week.

I wouldn't be putting up with three consecutive days and nights every week. But my DH is a very active co-parent so it would feel like a big difference. It seems like for some people on here they would barely notice.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/05/2024 20:40

CurlewKate · 06/05/2024 20:34

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos Exactly. You were following a carefully thought out plan, and making sure you were independent and supporting yourself. You weren't handing your independence completely over to a much older man, who was going to leave you solo parenting children for half the week......

I was moving 4 hours from my family to live with a man almost 10 years older than me who, at the time of making the decision, worked another 400 miles away in the other direction and so would be away the whole week.

We did not have children and he did not plan on that being his full time job but that's the reality. He was made redundant a month before I moved and so was working in the local area when I did move, but wasn't when we made the plan. I also had no work lined up for the first six months, and was hoping for enough temp work.

I was sure it was going to work out (and so far, it has, many many years down the line). But to anyone not completely sure that this was the start of our life together, it was a bit scary to think about.

CurlewKate · 06/05/2024 20:34

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos Exactly. You were following a carefully thought out plan, and making sure you were independent and supporting yourself. You weren't handing your independence completely over to a much older man, who was going to leave you solo parenting children for half the week......

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/05/2024 20:26

CurlewKate · 06/05/2024 20:13

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos "But this decision she can't possibly have made for herself or have thought through."

She could have done. But if she was my dd I would want to be very sure she had considered all the possible consequences. The down as well as the upsides. Because there are plenty of, I presume, older women on here who don't seem to have.

I was 23 when I moved, with a job for 6months time, 4 hours from my family. My mum asked me if I was sure and whether I had thought about "all possibilities". I said yes, because I had, but that one question made me double check myself.

Because I'm intelligent and sensible, much like OP has described her DD, and have been raised to think about the big picture, no further conversation was had. Because I was an adult, who had at that point put myself through university, graduated with a good level in a good subject, held down a job and kept a long distance relationship going. I had also clearly thought through my plan, having gotten a place to live, registered with several temp agencies and sorted a graduate position for 6 months time.

If it had gone tits up, I'd have gone home. Reluctantly, but with confidence I'd have been welcomed back with no judgement. But I'd have had less confidence if, having made my plan, thought it through and told my mum, she had then questioned everything. I'd have felt like she didn't trust I knew what I was doing and doubted my ability to build the life right for me.

OP needs to be careful not to question too much and shake her daughter's belief that her mother thinks she's an adult capable of deciding for herself. Because it could push her away.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/05/2024 20:18

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 20:12

DH and I work for the same company and we both keep pushing for parental leave rather than the current policies. They have changed their paternity leave policy and he's now able to be off for 6 weeks this time as opposed to 4 weeks when our son was born. Small victories.

Well done! When my DD was born, DH worked somewhere that offered 2 weeks at stat pay only, so we'd have lost a significant chunk of money if he'd taken it. Instead he saved all his AL and booked it in around her due date, then moved it when she came. Because dad's actually do want to be there when their child is tiny.

Shouldn't have had to come to that, but he did what was necessary to have that time with us.

Wotcher · 06/05/2024 20:17

I’d be more than happy to swap with her!! 🙈

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 20:13

SluggyMuggy · 06/05/2024 20:06

I really disagree with this. She is not moving to a City with lots of baby classes but to a rural area. This may mean she has to drive a fair distance to go to any groups. Not always easy with a new baby and no support.

She’s moving to the Home Counties not the Isle of Skye. Have you actually been to Surrey, Bucks or Berks? They’re packed with affluent people with young families, they’re so built up the concept of rural left them long ago.

CurlewKate · 06/05/2024 20:13

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos "But this decision she can't possibly have made for herself or have thought through."

She could have done. But if she was my dd I would want to be very sure she had considered all the possible consequences. The down as well as the upsides. Because there are plenty of, I presume, older women on here who don't seem to have.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/05/2024 20:12

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/05/2024 20:09

Agreed, I'll admit that one didn't occur to me because that's a conversation DH and I had between us anyway, and we both (now, DH didn't at the time) work for companies with "parental leave" as opposed to "maternity leave", meaning either of us could take a significant amount of time off if we had another.

DH and I work for the same company and we both keep pushing for parental leave rather than the current policies. They have changed their paternity leave policy and he's now able to be off for 6 weeks this time as opposed to 4 weeks when our son was born. Small victories.