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fishonabicycle · 06/05/2024 10:03

I cannot believe that all the women suddenly become totally mental once their son has a child. Personally I think most of the MIL chats are total fiction!

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Nanny0gg · 08/05/2024 11:16

It depends on the mil some generation wise believe that because they always had to default to their parents as did their parents that todays adults should and todays adults don’t want to. Thats one tick towards a crazy mil. Shes mad now its her turn there isn’t a turn.

I normally rant about generational comments, but this one does make a valid point.
My relationship with my mother would NEVER have been like the ones between my DC and me.
Although I hope I've survived not being considered the family matriarch

SpringerFall · 08/05/2024 10:10

I think if someone got on with their mil they would not find their partners attractive, it seems sport to hate mil

LookItsMeAgain · 08/05/2024 10:00

widgitfidgit · 08/05/2024 09:33

Two sides to every story. For every "evil mil" there will be a "difficult dil". I get on with my mil in fine (she has her faults as do we all) my sister in law can't stand her ( no real reason just a clad of personality and communication problems)

I don't think that has to be true that for every 'Evil MiL' there has to be a 'difficult DiL'. It could be that there isn't a DH that will stick up for his wife, or a DH that doesn't understand about acceptable boundaries (doesn't see anything wrong with his mother walking in to his home (the one he has with his wife) or having a key to this home and dropping in whenever it suits MiL for example. That's not being a 'Difficult DiL' - that's being a DiL that has reasonable boundaries and they are being trampled on.
This is one situation that I don't think fits the 'for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction' theory. PiL's can be absolutely batshit crazy when it comes to their children/grandkids.

I have been blessed with lovely in-laws but I do feel that some people manage to draw the short straw when it comes to their in-laws.

widgitfidgit · 08/05/2024 09:33

Two sides to every story. For every "evil mil" there will be a "difficult dil". I get on with my mil in fine (she has her faults as do we all) my sister in law can't stand her ( no real reason just a clad of personality and communication problems)

LarkRiseSummer · 08/05/2024 09:29

I think many women struggle when their sons grow away from them, find a partner, have children. They feel their special role has been usurped and many try to cling on to a level of control that the younger woman just won't accept (and why would she?). They also have unrealistic expectations about how involved their DIL should be with them. My MIL is like this and I have friends who have the same issues with their MILs.

What has raised my eyebrows on MN is the number of MILs who go frankly bonkers when a baby arrives - insist on alone time, try to stop the mother breastfeeding, demand sleepovers from day one. I have never encountered this level of batshit in real life across quite a wide circle of friends and colleagues.

I have adult daughters, I'm a MIL and a doting granny. I get on really well with my SIL as I have no expectations of him other than to be a good husband to my daughter and good father to my grandchildren.

ToffeePennie · 08/05/2024 09:28

I think it’s due to the dynamics changing, it’s why I’m actively aware there is an issue and with two little boys currently I’m hoping to avoid it all.
from the moment those little baby boys were born, they have been the very centre of Mums world, even as they grow, they always come back to their mum, for advice, for help for everything.
Then some girl comes along who “takes” that little boy and he no longer comes to Mum for advice, because “Jenny” does it better. Mum is no longer needed, so she feels hurt and pushed out, even if she doesn’t realise it.
So she lashes out at the “reason” which is obviously her Sons new girlfriend/wife, even if it’s subconscious.
I think it’s the changing dynamics of a son who no longer needs his mum for everything that makes them a little bit insane sometimes.

ChubbyMorticia · 08/05/2024 09:15

sweeneytoddsrazor · 06/05/2024 12:08

I always think these awful MIL managed to raise a son that you actually want to have children with, spend the rest of your life with so they must have done something right.

A lot of us abused kids worked damn hard to become who we are DESPITE our parents and the idea that they deserve credit for who we became adds insult to injury.

ProfessorPeppy · 08/05/2024 09:10

TrueStoryDude · 08/05/2024 08:58

Are you sure we don’t have the same MIL…

DH is an only child so definitely not! Grin

TrueStoryDude · 08/05/2024 08:58

ProfessorPeppy · 08/05/2024 05:52

Well, I’m fairly sure she’s ND herself, as are all of her family in various ways! Of course it wasn’t a thing when she was growing up in the 1950s.

Are you sure we don’t have the same MIL…

RinklyRomaine · 08/05/2024 07:14

My DDs paternal grandmother is a nasty, controlling, spiteful woman who dresses it all up as care and concern. She was wonderful to me while I towed the party line, but on the rare occasions I didn't (expecting to examine my bank account to see if I could contribute more to her sons home, which I had no share of) she turned. Her son is a spineless, abusive man, whose mother controls his finances and life even now he is remarried, who has badmouthed me and my DD to the rest of the family so extensively they all treat her like an outcast. I thought it was me, that I was hard work, or not trying enough, and it caused me a lot of distress at the time.

My MiL now is one of my best friends. I love her to pieces. She is kind, hilarious, principled, a bit difficult sometimes but never, ever with me, and always on my side. It helps that her son is a decent hardworking man who loves us all, but I was so scared of meeting her and being negatively affected by another involved mum. Ten years later and I spend more time with her than with my own DM. I realise it was never me, and original nan is now reaping the rewards of her behaviour with almost everyone she knows.

ProfessorPeppy · 08/05/2024 05:52

TruthorDie · 07/05/2024 20:48

Fair enough, l wouldn’t be wanting me in my life either. Does she think neurodiversity is made up or is “bad parenting” or nonsense like that?

Well, I’m fairly sure she’s ND herself, as are all of her family in various ways! Of course it wasn’t a thing when she was growing up in the 1950s.

Nottodaty · 07/05/2024 21:43

My MiL is hard work & we paying the costs with therapy for my husband due to her controlling behaviour!

When I met my husband he was NC with her. I couldn’t understand why any one would go NC with family and they reconnected.

Nearly 2 years ago I went NC - after 20 years of me trying I had to step back.

My husband still has a relationship with his Mum, he is an only child and holds a huge amount of guilt - he is still having therapy. I won’t ever ask him to choose us over her.

Doesn’t help that I wasn’t the DIL she wanted - apparently a 1940 housewife who should have known her place.

I hope I’m nothing like her! My daughter boyfriend mum has been lovely to my daughter and welcomed her completely (which was a relief!)

MissAmbrosia · 07/05/2024 21:07

My ex MIL was the Hyacinth Bouquet type. Had standard w/c upbringing, inherited some money via her husband then turned into world's biggest snob. Tried to control everything we did/spent money on and mummy's boy went along with it. When she started on me becoming more like a "proper wife" I left.

TruthorDie · 07/05/2024 21:03

MIL1 was mental and spiteful. Thought “mothers with children who work, are basically child abusers”. Was jealous about me being a qualified nurse. Interfering and smothering e.g. wanting to come to stay for 3 weeks etc

MIL2 pleasant and dotes on our children which is lovely. Has over stepped ever so slightly a few times. But my husband doesn’t mind setting her straight

Monzoqquery · 07/05/2024 21:00

You are extremely lucky op, my Mil was the reason I found mn about 13 years ago.
I googled I something like "why is my Mil so horrible to me when I've just had a baby" or " why is my Mil trying to break up my marriage" and mumsnet threads came up.

It's been like a therapy on here, talking to others with similar experiences.

TruthorDie · 07/05/2024 20:49

Me = her

TruthorDie · 07/05/2024 20:48

ProfessorPeppy · 06/05/2024 10:06

Unfortunately my MIL was bats. She still is, but is elderly and my DC are a bit older.

She won’t accept DS1’s autism/ADHD diagnoses, so we can never be friends, really Sad

Fair enough, l wouldn’t be wanting me in my life either. Does she think neurodiversity is made up or is “bad parenting” or nonsense like that?

TrueStoryDude · 07/05/2024 20:44

@ProfessorPeppy my MIL also doesn’t ‘believe’ in my child’s diagnosis. She’s so fucking ignorant on so many levels.

Lifestooshort71 · 07/05/2024 07:27

I hope I'm a lovely MIL. They seem to treat me as though I am and it's never been a struggle to accept my darling DIL - she makes my son so happy (even after 20yrs) so how can I not love her! My sister, however, used to be the MIL from hell (admittedly he'd 'married his mother' - strong-willed, opinionated, a real drama llama) and I warned her that, unless she backed off, she'd lose her son as most men will choose wife over mother. She listened, changed her behaviour towards them both and now, superficially at least, peace has been declared!

bungletru · 07/05/2024 07:15

Always makes me really happy to see people with nice MILs

had I married my ex bf I would’ve had the best MIL. However, that’s no reason to marry someone

my MIL is a narcissist, stuck up cow unfortunately. Who thinks her DILs aren’t good enough for her boys and has said just that. Think she wanted to marry her boys herself.
them leaving home has caused her to worry about her sons wellbeing’s all of a sudden even though she never showed them any love or sympathy throughout their lives.

very very bizarre.

it used to break my heart that I didn’t have a good Mil. But I know it’s not me, it’s her. So I’m over it.

ProfessorPeppy · 07/05/2024 07:05

Rainydayinlondon · 06/05/2024 23:13

I can understand why some people don’t like “labels”. That generation a can be of the “ lot of stuff and nonsense” mindset. Or do you mean she won’t tolerate their personality?

It’s not a label, though. ADHD is a medical diagnosis. I have to hide his meds when she comes over. I can’t think of another medical condition she’d be ‘against’.

Tiedtoatwat · 06/05/2024 23:15

tracktrail · 06/05/2024 19:35

MILs were DILs at some point. They don't suddenly morph into MIL from hell.
They managed to bring up a child who was attractive enough a prospect to get into a relationship with, and procreate with. They obviously got something right.

I always think 'oh yeah, and what's MIL view' on threads about MILs.

It's different before you get married to their sons. You're prepared to tolerate a certain amount before you've committed. It's only after the wedding that you realise the shitshow you've got yourself into!

Rainydayinlondon · 06/05/2024 23:13

ProfessorPeppy · 06/05/2024 10:06

Unfortunately my MIL was bats. She still is, but is elderly and my DC are a bit older.

She won’t accept DS1’s autism/ADHD diagnoses, so we can never be friends, really Sad

I can understand why some people don’t like “labels”. That generation a can be of the “ lot of stuff and nonsense” mindset. Or do you mean she won’t tolerate their personality?

Seapsweetsesamethingy · 06/05/2024 22:53

Orangemangogrape · 06/05/2024 10:08

I think the problem is that DILs hold all the cards and this is bound to bother older women with more life experience.

There is so much wrong with that statement.

Mnk711 · 06/05/2024 22:48

Maybe there are more MIL threads on here than FIL/BIL/SIL/mum/dad etc but that's probably because a disproportionate amount of people here are/have been parents with young children which grandmothers tend to be more involved with, potentially causing more strife. For sure there are lots of relationship threads on other ILs/siblings/parents though. The sad fact is lots of people are annoying, batshit, or rude, not just MILs.