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To buy a car that DSS can't learn to drive in?

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Digitaldedado · 06/05/2024 08:12

DSS is learning to drive, he hasn't shown a huge amount of interest to date. But we are trying to encourage him where we can and have bought him a pack of lessons, which are still to be used. But he's been out with DH and I for maybe about 10 hours, and 5 with his DM although she isn't keen to teach him due to the cost.
We are a one car family, and have no plans or intentions to buy a 2nd. DH has promised DSS he'd help him buy his own car when he goes to uni, I've committed to helping with the running cost until he starts working FT.
DH and I want to change our current car, however the car we want isn't suitable for a learner due to the power and insurance. Should we wait 9/12 months until he passes or just do it now and get him to learn through an instructor? Our main concern is we could wait for something that might never happen due to his current interest levels.

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Digitaldedado · 06/05/2024 22:14

Thanks everyone. We'll only get him a car if it's needed for uni. We don't live in the UK and our Uni's are campus style, so a car would be helpful, also to get to and from work. We want him to try and pass this year, so it's done and even if he doesn't get a car immediately it's one thing less to worry about. He'll still have access to his mum's car to practice in, not just ours. Still not sure what's the best thing to do.

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Trulyme · 06/05/2024 14:42

Driving lessons are so expensive! And so I’d definitely consider keeping the car so he can practice as much as possible when he’s at home.

As PPs have said, there’s no point him getting a car for uni, especially if he’s living in halls and it’s in a city centre but it’s up to you/his parents.

I would do everything I can to get him to pass his test before uni though, even if he doesn’t get a car because it’s very easy to put it on hold and that means the lessons he’s done will have been wasted.

DancingFerret · 06/05/2024 09:49

If he's not that bothered about learning to drive, why not just accept that and buy the car you want? If he was keen and eager for practise runs, you could have held off the new car until he'd passed his test.

IME, people who aren't fussed about driving but manage to get through the test often go on to be the drivers who annoy other road users with their lack of positivity and awareness.

TheaBrandt · 06/05/2024 09:39

You need a car to practise on in addition to lessons. We have been a one car family for years and proud of it but actually we will get the new one and keep the old one. It was second hand in 2011 so if dd1 scrapes it so be it. Dd2 can then learn on it too.

Daisy12Maisie · 06/05/2024 09:36

Depending on where you live it can be difficult to get regular lessons. I've booked my son 20 hours but cannot get more than that as there is no availability. So I'm just teaching him myself in addition to the 20 hours. But he is very, very motivated to drive though and there is a sort of deadline of November as he will be moving somewhere else in the uk in November so we don't know where.
I would tell your dss that you are getting the new car in 6 months and he can drive with you in that time. He either takes the opportunity or he doesn't.

Littlefish · 06/05/2024 09:35

Halfemptyhalfling · 06/05/2024 08:36

He won't need a car when he is at university. It will just be a pain to look after. Passing his test before he goes will be a massive advantage as fewer young people are passing and he will have more choice of housing and jobs after university

Insurance for learners is reasonable but insurance for just passed is massive.

I would recommend giving him lessons and practice in your old car to try and get him to pass before university. Then when he has gone get your nice car

I agree with all of this.

Almost none of dd's friends took cars to university in their first year. I think a few are planning to take them for their second year.

It's so much easier to pass with regular practise at home, in addition to professional lessons.

If your dh is planning to help him buy a car, I would do that now so he's got something to practise in.

FlameTulip · 06/05/2024 09:29

It will take ages for him to pass if he only has a lesson once a week. Practice is really important.

NorthUtsireSouthUtsire · 06/05/2024 09:27

TeeBee · 06/05/2024 08:24

There's nothing more stressful than teaching your own child to drive. Buy the car and leave it to the professionals. It's not as if he seems that bothered.

Completely disagree . I have taught my 4 dc and 3 sdc to drive . They all had a double lesson with an instructor for 17th birthday and then I insured family car with learner insurance and they drove EVERY time I or DH needed to go somewhere. Relying on once a week lessons in instructors car is not sufficient to pass first time.

If you are a confident driver then there is no reason to 'get stressed' . and the only way to get confidence is to drive a lot. It doesn't get bestowed upon confident drivers like fairy dust.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/05/2024 09:23

InSpainTheRain · 06/05/2024 08:31

It's hard to learn to drive with only an instructor and no additional practise. I'd keep a car he can practise in and encourage him to commit to a date for his test

Agreed. I tried to learn to drive twice when younger and didn't get anywhere. As a mature adult I was able to buy my own car and spend many hours practising in that as well as taking lessons. I would never have passed the test without it.

KnittedCardi · 06/05/2024 09:21

Marmalade will insure a learner on pretty much any parental car. DD is in third year at Uni and does have her car. She has a driveway at her house to park. She doesn't use it much down there, but it's been so useful for trips home as the trains are expensive, and often cancelled, delayed, or on strike. She can also load up stuff herself rather than relying on us to drive up and down.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/05/2024 09:19

First thing surely is to try to get the lad to see it's a really good idea to learn to drive now while he's got support to do so.
I agree most kids don't need a car while at uni, but not being able to drive when they've graduated may limit job opportunities and they may find it difficult to get lessons at suitable times once they're working.

If he CBA then I can't see why you'd plan your car change around the vague possibility of him wanting to practice with your DH. If you and your DH are willing to fund driving lessons and even a car, it seems fair for his dm to take him out for practice if he wants more than lessons.

Baconking · 06/05/2024 09:17

Corwen · 06/05/2024 09:03

I never understand how stressed people on here get about their DC learning to drive. Neither Dh or I were taught/ encouraged/ expected to drive by our parents. We both paid for our own driving lessons and cars in our 20s having found we were a bit stuck for certain jobs without cars. I appreciate some people are in really rural areas where they are completely stuck but in general there are public transport options to and from most universities

It's not just rural.

We live suburban and DS has a part time job 5 miles away. He can't walk there as it would be along an A road with no pavements or at least 10 miles out of his way. Public transport would be a 40 min walk to the nearest station and 2 different trains. The buses from our village don't go in that direction and even if they did it is 1 or 2 an hour and visiting every village and town on the way.

I grew up in London so didn't drive until I was in my 20s, but where we are now nearly all kids learn to drive as soon as they turn 17

Baconking · 06/05/2024 09:09

We never took DS out to practice. All his driving lessons were with an instructor

missshilling · 06/05/2024 09:09

Corwen · 06/05/2024 09:03

I never understand how stressed people on here get about their DC learning to drive. Neither Dh or I were taught/ encouraged/ expected to drive by our parents. We both paid for our own driving lessons and cars in our 20s having found we were a bit stuck for certain jobs without cars. I appreciate some people are in really rural areas where they are completely stuck but in general there are public transport options to and from most universities

If students are wanting to do internships or placements, not having a car can be a definite handicap. Not having a driving licence further limits their options.

OverpricedTea · 06/05/2024 09:05

My kids never practised in our automatic and they passed first time. Buy the car you need.

I would never insure my kids for a car at university. So so expensive.

Corwen · 06/05/2024 09:03

I never understand how stressed people on here get about their DC learning to drive. Neither Dh or I were taught/ encouraged/ expected to drive by our parents. We both paid for our own driving lessons and cars in our 20s having found we were a bit stuck for certain jobs without cars. I appreciate some people are in really rural areas where they are completely stuck but in general there are public transport options to and from most universities

focacciamuffin · 06/05/2024 09:00

Shinyandnew1 · 06/05/2024 08:55

DH has promised DSS he'd help him buy his own car when he goes to uni, I've committed to helping with the running cost until he starts working FT.

Why on earth would he need his own car at university! Students are skint enough as it is without having to think about running a car!

Skint or not, many seem quite able to run cars.

Shinyandnew1 · 06/05/2024 08:58

sleepyscientist · 06/05/2024 08:56

Depends on the course we had placements in ours and managing without a car would have been a massive struggle

Fair enough-if the DSS is one of the students on a course with placements definitely needing a car, I take it back. If it’s a normal UG course-I would say it’s unnecessary and supporting them with food/accommodation costs will be expensive enough.

mitogoshi · 06/05/2024 08:57

My dc2 learned at university and bought a car to practice in during summer holidays, passing second time, very cheap to insure as a learner on my multi car and wasn't horrendous at 21 when they passed 2 years ago but it's gone up

sleepyscientist · 06/05/2024 08:56

Shinyandnew1 · 06/05/2024 08:55

DH has promised DSS he'd help him buy his own car when he goes to uni, I've committed to helping with the running cost until he starts working FT.

Why on earth would he need his own car at university! Students are skint enough as it is without having to think about running a car!

Depends on the course we had placements in ours and managing without a car would have been a massive struggle

Shinyandnew1 · 06/05/2024 08:55

DH has promised DSS he'd help him buy his own car when he goes to uni, I've committed to helping with the running cost until he starts working FT.

Why on earth would he need his own car at university! Students are skint enough as it is without having to think about running a car!

mitogoshi · 06/05/2024 08:54

If he's not bothered just leave it. To be honest they don't need a car at university unless on certain specific courses and it's horrendously expensive to insure under 21

ClockworkDisaster · 06/05/2024 08:50

You may be surprised that the insurance isn’t as bad as you think for a learner. Try Marmalade insurance.

Plenty of people practice (and take their tests) in unusual cars. Large people carriers, pick ups, 4x4s, estate cars etc.

C8H10N4O2 · 06/05/2024 08:45

If he isn't in a rush to learn then wait until he graduates and has settled in a job/location. Its a lot of money to waste if he isn't interested.

What is the pressure to learn now? The insurance for a newly passed teen will be horrible.

Candleabra · 06/05/2024 08:39

My kids couldn’t drive my car as learners (automatic). They were fine with just professional lessons. Your bigger problem is DSS’s lack of motivation. Have you got to the bottom of this - does he not enjoy driving, is scared, not good at it?