To think it’s nuts to buy a double buggy for your first?

I feel the same op! No judgement to anyone else of course. For dd1 we got a single buggy - Bugaboo - then had dd2 2 years later and got a Phil and Teds double. We had no problems conceiving but I was 36 so couldn’t take it for granted it’d happen.

in practical terms it would have made sense to get the Phil and Teds for dd1 - it’s good as a single buggy - obvs in hindsight I should have!

YABU because there’s prams like the bugaboo donkey that shrink to be a single buggy.

We got the fox 5 because I didn’t think I wanted another child so soon but I after having baby I really do want another next year. I wish we’d just bought the Donkey at outset.

It's not very sensible, even if you were guaranteed a second. I tried a double briefly but the weight difference between a newborn and 2.5 year old made it unmanageable. We ended up having two McLarens for days out or when there were two parents/grandparents. Or the bigger pushchair and sling and buggy board for going out solo.

I think it is a bit crazy tbh. Usually it’s more expensive ie the bugaboo cameleon is about half the price of the bugaboo donkey so it doesn’t really save if you don’t end up needed it.

Also it will depend on age gap, certain types of doubles are better for twins, or small gaps. Other ones better for newborn and toddlers who aren’t in it 100% of time etc. If you don’t know age gap in advance it tricky. Ie if I had a 11month gap I would maybe want to have both children parent facing or two seats compatible. If I had a 2.5-3 year gap I would potentially just add buggy board or want a seat that clips on and off for longs days out but not need for daily naps.

Oh lovey. The pain jumps out of your posts. Look after yourself. Xxx

It depends what sort of pram. Not nuts if it can be used as a single and then added seats etc make it a double (our Uppababy Vista has that option) I think that’s sensible. A permanent double side by side yes when you are expecting one I would think that a bit odd but I doubt that’s a common thing for people to do.

I know someone who bought an icandy that could convert to a double. She was always intending to conceive a second baby immediately after the first.

I agree with you if you're talking about something which is permanently set up as a double like the picture you linked.

The ones which can be a single or a double, they are a great design and a decent investment I think, you don't even have to buy the second seat unless you need it, and since pushchairs are eye wateringly expensive these days, it does make sense to look at those in the first place. If you're going to drop £1000+ on a pram then it makes sense to get one which has the option to expand. I wouldn't want to spend so much on a standard/single and then later if I needed a double I'd have to either fork out the same amount again or be stuck with a cheap/second hand one. (I have never spent this much on a pram I might add! I got my first one for £220 and then I got a second hand one for €150).

I do know what you mean though because my DH has a fertility issue meaning we couldn't plan the way that other people plan. We knew that we wanted two little ones fairly close together and the only realistic option for this was to not use any contraception after the first one. The next came along almost exactly 3 years later but there was a good chance that would not have happened at all.

Mine is an Uppababy Vista - it’s a fantastic pram.

I don’t know anyone who’s gone for a side by side double, they’re so impractical!

They are tricky to sell. I donated mine in the end. People want to buy a new pram. It's one of the milestones to being a parent for some people. Other people sure might want second hand but the market is saturated and people think they should hold their value but they just dont.

I personally wouldn't for similar reasons to you OP but I don't think it's madness to buy one if you're comfortable with the fact that 2 might not happen

Bugaboo donkey is perfect for this reason. Single to double.

@Willmafrockfit

Youd be surprised how hard it is to sell pram systems and how little they are worth - maybe only around 25% of its original value - and mine was in lovely condition - it was listed for months and months and months across several selling sites and never sold

New it was around £1500 - if I had spent about £250 more to get the wave which can convert to a double I would have then saved myself the £1750 when I had to get one when I fell pregnant with twins 😂

I think it’s a little weird to buy a side by side but I wish I’d gone for a single to double! We bought an icandy Lime for DD - after nearly a year of trying. Her younger brother was a complete surprise and arrived 19 months later… swapped the Lime for a Peach and I really wish I’d had the Peach from the get go!

but surely you could have sold the good single silver cross @onefinalhurdle

I bought a standard silver cross for my first I wish I'd planned ahead and bought the one which could be adapted into a double - I did have multiple lossses but did end up having twins and buying a whole new pram again was soooo expensive when I had a perfectly good single silver cross in the loft 😢

I would. Phil and Ted, bugaboo donkey, baby jogger city select all work well as a single.

i think its nuts
i always understood it was bad luck to buy before the birth
so this is even more so

You'll use the spare seat as a wheelbarrow.

It makes financial sense if you do plan on having a second child soon after the first (which many do if they’re older in particular). The bugaboo donkey makes sense for this because it can be a single too.

A friend of mine did the opposite, wanted a double as she wanted kids close together but got a single instead. It was a silly decision. She’d struggled with infertility before so they started trying as soon as her first was four months old and his brother came along before he turned two. She’s got a selection of bizarre doubles that are cheap and flimsy now, but she hasn’t got a decent one because she feels she invested in the single so that should be her “main” pram. Silly.

Lots of people do manage two close together. 7 of 8 of my NCT lot have a baby now, or are in the last trimester; and we’ve all got two year olds.

I got a pram that could be converted. Two close together hasn’t worked out for us so I won’t need it, my oldest doesn’t use a pram anymore, but I’m glad I gave myself the option.

💐 xx

I'm not at all superstitious so I would. I definitely don't think it's fiucking nuts.

If I couldn't have another baby then I don't think I'd feel worse because of the buggy I owned, it's just a thing.

Well lots of doubles can be used a single with storage so it's actually a very good move financially especially if you're happy with a good quality second hand one.

I didn't buy my double until I was 32 weeks and didn't tell a soul not even my mum I was pregnant with what turned out to be DD1 until I was 24 weeks. I was similarity scared of jinxing it after what I'd been through. But I didn't let that stop me hoping I'd have two under three. And I did.