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Grown Men Dating Teenagers

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ReallyDubious · 05/05/2024 21:57

I have a male acquaintance who expressed a really concerning opinion about age gap relationships. He thinks that it is ok for a much older man to date younger women and teenagers as 'some women (or girls) are more mature than others'. Although I agree with that in principle, I do not agree that a teenager is ever mature enough to date a grown man.

He said he dated 'mature' teens when he was in his 40s and I'm seriously revolted at the thought. AIBU to think there is something seriously wrong with this man?

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Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 22:12

Disturbia81 · 12/05/2024 22:01

Definitely not jealous. I hated being 18 and having older men make me feel like prey, and I hate it now.
Your posts say it all. You're either a bloke or in a huge age gap relationship. It's gross and most people think so.

Well yes ... I agree with you - 18 is too young

but Decaparios girlfriend is 25 ?

why is it gross ?

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 22:04

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:56

Now you it sounds like you are trying to
wriggle out of a really stupid position.

My main point is - how can you be repulsed by a loving relationship between two consenting adults at the age range you / the various posters here have stated? Don't you see how morally bankrupt that sort of view is?

If you don't want to understand I can't help you I'm afraid 😱

No I'm not trying to wriggle out of a position, this is the exact same one I have been maintaining all along

how can you be repulsed by a loving relationship between two consenting adults at the age range you / the various posters here have stated?

Because that's my personal boundary, as it was the other posters personal boundary

Don't you see how morally bankrupt that sort of view is?

there's nothing morally bankrupt about having my own personal boundaries around dating. There is something morally bankrupt about ridiculing someone else's personal boundaries and trying to walk all over them.

Relationships are not equal opportunities. Women get to say "no that's not what I personally want"

If you don't want to understand I can't help you I'm afraid

I understand perfectly well. I don't agree.

Disturbia81 · 12/05/2024 22:01

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 20:47

It is a bit harsh to judge him. I mean the woman is with him by her own volition, nobody's making her date him. He is a very successful handsome man - what is the issue ultimately?

I must say many of the posters on here just sound a little bitter and jealous.

Definitely not jealous. I hated being 18 and having older men make me feel like prey, and I hate it now.
Your posts say it all. You're either a bloke or in a huge age gap relationship. It's gross and most people think so.

MidnightMeltdown · 12/05/2024 22:01

That's awful @igomeow

I wouldn't have been comfortable dating a man in his 20s when I was a teenager, let alone a man in his 30s! My parents wouldn't have let that happen either.

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:59

JazbayGrapes · 12/05/2024 21:58

i'm in the camp of consenting adults. Yes, big age difference can be problematic at times. As any significant difference in anything - religion, culture, wealth or education. So what?

Edited

Exactly - well said

JazbayGrapes · 12/05/2024 21:58

i'm in the camp of consenting adults. Yes, big age difference can be problematic at times. As any significant difference in anything - religion, culture, wealth or education. So what?

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:56

bradpittsbathwater · 12/05/2024 21:50

Yes it is repulsive

Why ???

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:56

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:52

Okay let me try this one more time

A poster said that for her a relationship with a man much younger would be repulsive. I happen to agree, for me personally

That's not illogical it's personal choice. Dating and relationships aren't equal opportunities. I can have whatever boundaries I want. I could only date men with blue eyes or I could only date women who could ski if I wanted to. I can be as picky as I want within my own relationships.

My choice doesn't impinge on your choice. Because I don't want to date someone 20 years younger doesn't mean you can't, within legal boundaries. I am not seeing to govern you with my preferences for a relationship.

You took a statement someone said about their own preferences, and then somehow took offence as if it limited your own options when it did no such thing.

You are the one being illogical here by trying to act like someone else's boundaries impinge on your right to be in a relationship with a person of an age you feel is appropriate

Now you it sounds like you are trying to
wriggle out of a really stupid position.

My main point is - how can you be repulsed by a loving relationship between two consenting adults at the age range you / the various posters here have stated? Don't you see how morally bankrupt that sort of view is?

If you don't want to understand I can't help you I'm afraid 😱

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:52

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:47

Sorry you can't hide behind "it's my choice " to justify a totally illogical argument.

the seemingly ( for many on here) is that love and intimacy transcends age groups and beyond.

Thank god we are not governed by the distorted moral compass of your view

Okay let me try this one more time

A poster said that for her a relationship with a man much younger would be repulsive. I happen to agree, for me personally

That's not illogical it's personal choice. Dating and relationships aren't equal opportunities. I can have whatever boundaries I want. I could only date men with blue eyes or I could only date women who could ski if I wanted to. I can be as picky as I want within my own relationships.

My choice doesn't impinge on your choice. Because I don't want to date someone 20 years younger doesn't mean you can't, within legal boundaries. I am not seeing to govern you with my preferences for a relationship.

You took a statement someone said about their own preferences, and then somehow took offence as if it limited your own options when it did no such thing.

You are the one being illogical here by trying to act like someone else's boundaries impinge on your right to be in a relationship with a person of an age you feel is appropriate

bradpittsbathwater · 12/05/2024 21:50

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:45

Oh for all of you crazy people judging age gaps in relationships. - President Macron of France is 46 and his wife is ...71

repulsive right ? 🤣

Yes it is repulsive

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:47

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:44

I am making sense

A poster said: a relationship with a younger man would repulse me

That's her boundary, her right, there is nothing ridiculous about that and no one has the right to ridicule that or tell her her boundary is wrong

If I was a 60 year old woman I would feel repulsed by a relationship with a 40 year old man. Again me, because this is someone's personal boundaries you are having a go at, not just some hypothetical woman

No I don't think it's stupid if I don't want a relationship with a man 20 years younger than me. I think that's my choice.

Sorry you can't hide behind "it's my choice " to justify a totally illogical argument.

the seemingly ( for many on here) is that love and intimacy transcends age groups and beyond.

Thank god we are not governed by the distorted moral compass of your view

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:45

Oh for all of you crazy people judging age gaps in relationships. - President Macron of France is 46 and his wife is ...71

repulsive right ? 🤣

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:44

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:40

You are not making any sense. Just take a minute to reflect on the reality of a relationship between two human beings. You will understand what I am driving at.

out of interest how do you feel about a 60 year old woman dating a 40 year old man?

does that repulse you?

you see how stupid it sounds?

I am making sense

A poster said: a relationship with a younger man would repulse me

That's her boundary, her right, there is nothing ridiculous about that and no one has the right to ridicule that or tell her her boundary is wrong

If I was a 60 year old woman I would feel repulsed by a relationship with a 40 year old man. Again me, because this is someone's personal boundaries you are having a go at, not just some hypothetical woman

No I don't think it's stupid if I don't want a relationship with a man 20 years younger than me. I think that's my choice.

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:40

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:37

No love and intimacy can absolutely be hand within societal expectation and constraints

However the attempts to ridicule womens boundaries and to try to force them to let go of them, as if you have any say of who they are and aren't attracted to is ridiculous

You don't get to say what someone else's boundaries are, and trying to ridicule them into believing they should have intimate relationships they feel repulsed by is in itself repulsive.

You are not making any sense. Just take a minute to reflect on the reality of a relationship between two human beings. You will understand what I am driving at.

out of interest how do you feel about a 60 year old woman dating a 40 year old man?

does that repulse you?

you see how stupid it sounds?

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:37

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:24

Then say adults

I've seen more than a few posts on social media over the years trying to normalise sexual relationships with children so there's no ffs about it

And tbf I did give you the benefit of the doubt and express my assumption that you mean adults

Incidentally again of course I mean two consenting adults with regards to the right to a loving relationship

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:37

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:32

Do you believe that people can feel love for someone with no rational thought whatsoever? The whole premise of love and intimacy is about letting go of our societal expectations and constraints ( obviously 🙄 ensuring legal / ethical boundaries)

To be physically repulsed by a normal loving relationship is just ridiculous. I am afraid that is a fact

No love and intimacy can absolutely be hand within societal expectation and constraints

However the attempts to ridicule womens boundaries and to try to force them to let go of them, as if you have any say of who they are and aren't attracted to is ridiculous

You don't get to say what someone else's boundaries are, and trying to ridicule them into believing they should have intimate relationships they feel repulsed by is in itself repulsive.

WouldYouLikeMeToSpellThatForYou · 12/05/2024 21:34

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/05/2024 22:17

Men always think girls and women are more mature when it comes to them having sex, but never when it comes to running companies, ruling countries or making decisions.

I wonder why...

Again, spot on. My gosh the first posts are nailing it

WouldYouLikeMeToSpellThatForYou · 12/05/2024 21:33

Foxblue · 05/05/2024 22:11

You aren't wrong, but someone will be along to say that they moved out at 17, and had a toddler and their own flat and were very mature for their age at 19 when they met their DH who was then 32 but 'has always been young at heart' and took on a toddler as his own and they are happily married 25 years later with two more kids blah blah.
And if you ask what they/DH would think of. their 19 year old daughter dating a 32 year old man they'll go 'well, that was different, i was very mature for my age'
And they'll say 'I pursued him actually, not the other way round'
And they'll say 'its only on mumsnet that people think age gaps are weird, my parents were worried at first but they grew to love DH and noone else in our lives found it weird'
And if you ask them if at age 32 they found 19 year old men attractive it's tumbleweed....

^^

Spot on

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:32

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:27

No to say that she personally would be repulsed by such an age gap is completely appropriate and there is nothing immature about knowing your own boundaries

There is something immature about trying to make someone feel like their own personal boundaries are wrong though

She can feel like she would only want a sexual relationship with someone the exact same age as her if she wanted. It's her preferences, her boundaries and she's hurting no one

Do you believe that people can feel love for someone with no rational thought whatsoever? The whole premise of love and intimacy is about letting go of our societal expectations and constraints ( obviously 🙄 ensuring legal / ethical boundaries)

To be physically repulsed by a normal loving relationship is just ridiculous. I am afraid that is a fact

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:27

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:23

Well to say a perfectly consensual reciprocal age gap is physically repulsive just sounds immature to be frank

No to say that she personally would be repulsed by such an age gap is completely appropriate and there is nothing immature about knowing your own boundaries

There is something immature about trying to make someone feel like their own personal boundaries are wrong though

She can feel like she would only want a sexual relationship with someone the exact same age as her if she wanted. It's her preferences, her boundaries and she's hurting no one

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:24

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:22

Of course I mean adults 👩

ffs

Then say adults

I've seen more than a few posts on social media over the years trying to normalise sexual relationships with children so there's no ffs about it

And tbf I did give you the benefit of the doubt and express my assumption that you mean adults

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:23

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:21

That poster is talking about how she, and her friends, feel. She is not unhinged to feel that way or to explain how she feels in a conversation on the topic

The need to push someone's boundaries by implying that their personal preferences are "unhinged" is quite off

Well to say a perfectly consensual reciprocal age gap is physically repulsive just sounds immature to be frank

Cornwall850 · 12/05/2024 21:22

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:18

Everyone of any age or gender has a right to a fulfilling intimate relationship.

No they have the right to look for a relationship, and they have the right to be in a relationship, but they don't have the right to a relationship because its a want not a need. You cannot confer a right to one person that needs 2 people to consent.

And I assume the "any age" was a misspeak on your part because you were just thinking about adults and you didn't really mean to imply that small children have the right to an intimate (ie sexual) relationship...

Of course I mean adults 👩

ffs

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:21

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That poster is talking about how she, and her friends, feel. She is not unhinged to feel that way or to explain how she feels in a conversation on the topic

The need to push someone's boundaries by implying that their personal preferences are "unhinged" is quite off

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 21:18

Everyone of any age or gender has a right to a fulfilling intimate relationship.

No they have the right to look for a relationship, and they have the right to be in a relationship, but they don't have the right to a relationship because its a want not a need. You cannot confer a right to one person that needs 2 people to consent.

And I assume the "any age" was a misspeak on your part because you were just thinking about adults and you didn't really mean to imply that small children have the right to an intimate (ie sexual) relationship...