To not know any of Labour's policies apart from VAT

https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/labour-manifesto-2024-sign-up/
Here you go.

There is a manifesto.

That not everyone in UK supports democracy.

What's 40% of 4.4% ?

@Tripeandonions
That article is over 18 years old. What point are you trying to make with your 2006 article?

Interesting.

But not everyone agrees...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

The NHS would do far better if it made more attempt to cut back on "health tourism", but that seems to be an issue that no government wants to address.
OK it's only (?) £300-400 million but it's a lot easier to manage if the will is there.

I'm sure the Conservatives have taken great strides to deal with this issue during the last 14 years.

From what I read I don't think the Tories are even sure how much money is spent on 'health tourism' or indeed, how many of those having treatment are British expats returning for NHS medical treatment.

“Given the choice, I would still like to live in the UK. I like the deep-rooted democracy in the country."

..........so long as that democracy goes my way and, also, I don't want to pay for it.

Another view ;

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-ultra-wealthy-eye-italy-100000811.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Yes, they have other policies that you will only learn about once they have their feet firmly under the table

Ask them re deporting boat/illegal immigrants
Ask them how they will fund their dreams

You may then have a clearer answer but will they stick to that and we all know the answer

They found that the vast majority of Britain’s extremely wealthy people would never leave the country for tax reasons, partly due to the stigma involved in doing so.

That's because - despite the wailing and gnashing - the UK is a fuck sight safer than (say) Mexico where 3 tourists ended up with a bullet in the head for trying to stop their tyres being stolen.

I am developing a theory that "great" leaders who are remembered well are those who were able to articulate what the populous think. With that in mind, I think there is an entire countries worth of love for the political leader who stands up to these billionaire bozos and waves them off at Dover. "Fuckity bye then.". Gets my vote.

They have a list of stuff they want to spend on, some doesn’t stack up even then, but so far very little on how to fund it

The VAT policy is what people remember as it’s the funding part, the thing that makes the other promises feasible or not

Hmm, some interesting views for discussion.

I understand that if all these "super-rich" guys (and gals, let's not be sexist !) paid these taxes the revenue would be £3.6 billion pa.

The cost to the taxpayer of running the NHS is £180 billion pa. So the figure mentioned above is a drop in the ocean.

The NHS would do far better if it made more attempt to cut back on "health tourism", but that seems to be an issue that no government wants to address.
OK it's only (?) £300-400 million but it's a lot easier to manage if the will is there.

• *@Tripeandonions The thing about these 'I'll leave' guys that sticks in my craw is that they're as rich as Croesus and don't want to pay their dues.

This chap has a home in Monaco, 10 properties in London including a £20 million gaff near Sloane Square, a dozen properties across the world and a super yacht.

All this and he doesn't want to pay his taxes. Taxes that would tar our roads, mend our schools and fund our NHS.

You can see why the Tories would like to keep this man sweet with his £360k donations to them last year. He greases their palm, they grease his. Meanwhile, the woman in the street earning £20k pays her taxes.

Just bloody pay your taxes you grasping billionaire! We ordinary people will benefit (in the country you choose to live in) and, as you only pay tax on money you already have, you're not going to be left destitute scratching around for a quid to scratch your arse with.

ALSO

An interesting article here based on research from the International Inequalities Institute at LSE.

They found that the vast majority of Britain’s extremely wealthy people would never leave the country for tax reasons, partly due to the stigma involved in doing so.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2024/a-January-2024/super-rich-unlikely-to-leave-uk-for-boring-and-culturally-barren-tax-havens

I think it's fascinating to see that Labour claim to be able to completing revamp the NHS by removing the non-dom status "loophole",

Apparently this will raise £3.6 billion.

Of course this is dependent on people like this chap continuing to live in UK....

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/may/02/i-am-moving-tycoon-bassim-haidar-non-dom-tax-status-super-rich-exodus

I have voted for pretty much all of the parties during my time. Genuine floating voter. There is absolutely categorically NO WAY I’d vote to keep the current screaming incompetents in power. They are the worst - the very worst - bunch of corrupt scumbags we have ever seen. They aren’t even what I think of as the Conservative Party, who to me mean the likes of John major. Quietly competent. These people are awful. Just awful. So personalities? I could care less. I’ll base my vote on who the candidate is NOT. If they are not running as a conservative I’ll listen to what they have to say.

Have you been to the Braverman school of charm?

Apparently someone from the hard left also thought he is not great. However, they are much worse

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/05/momentum-future-in-balance-co-chair-hilary-schan-resigns-quits-labour

Yes yabu

Yeah. It annoys me when people moan about the lack of information when we live in a age where everything is literally at your fingertips.

Particularly in the morning.😎

Its been sunny today, plenty of drinks seems to have been consumed in my local town. Is this typical?

in the morning ?

All Labour policies are going to be for the benefit of women.
Things really are going to get better.
😉😁😁😁

At least they have started to spell his name right.