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Rich parent doesn’t help very poor (adult) child

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Richparentpoorchild · 04/05/2024 22:50

I’d be very interested to hear what people make of this. My Mum is worth a few million quid. My husband and I, and our children are on the breadline and have been for at least 15 years.

We have no extra money for treats or holidays or anything nice. At Christmas, I sell things on eBay to make some money, so that I can buy family members Christmas presents. We never put the heating on because we just can’t afford it.

My Mum on the other hand, has several luxury holidays a year, always flying business class. She lives in a huge mansion and wants for nothing. I think at the last count she had eight properties. Some of these were gifted to her, from her rich parents.

I know that I don’t need to ask this really, because I know that it’s weird that she doesn’t offer any help to me, but what does everybody make of this?

I am now 56 years old, and she is almost 80. She is fighting fit healthwise and all of the women in the family live until about 100 years old, so whilst I will inherit, I will most likely be in my 70s at that time, which is not really when I’m going to need the money .

If it was you, in her position, do you think you would do something now to help me? I am on the bones of my arse.

we go out for lunch now and then and she never treats me, I always have to pay my half.

She has a boyfriend who she treats a lot,

OP posts:
Ohlookwhoitis · 06/05/2024 12:25

converseandjeans · 06/05/2024 10:10

DH has 4 children from a previous marriage, and up until very recently was paying quite a lot in child support.

That's the reason. I doubt she wants to subsidise the household for this reason.

I would also not count on getting inheritance as the boyfriend may be named in the will.

It's a shame she isn't able to even buy you lunch though.

I don't think that's the reason. OP didn't meet her DH until she was 40.

DH until I was 40, so up till then there was only one wage coming in, and where I live is quite expensive. I did get on the property ladder though, but most of my income was swallowed up by the mortgage

converseandjeans · 06/05/2024 10:10

DH has 4 children from a previous marriage, and up until very recently was paying quite a lot in child support.

That's the reason. I doubt she wants to subsidise the household for this reason.

I would also not count on getting inheritance as the boyfriend may be named in the will.

It's a shame she isn't able to even buy you lunch though.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 06/05/2024 09:12

LadyEloise1 · 06/05/2024 09:02

@MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel
Your inlaws sound unbelievably nasty.

My fil is a nasty piece of work (that's a whole other thread) but mil is usually okay. I think, in some weird way, she saw it as helping us by not giving us handouts. Where as all I remember is trying to heat my toddlers bedroom with the one electric heater we could afford so she wouldn't wake up freezing cold. On the plus side, our gas bill was nothing! 😆

In a weird way it did help. DH worked hard to move up the ranks, I raised beautiful children who understand money and cost and are grateful for what they have, and I returned to work, got 2 promotions in 5 years and we are in a good place and totally self made. And we are proud of ourselves. SIL has gone from failure to failure as she knows PIL always bail her out.

LadyEloise1 · 06/05/2024 09:02

@MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel
Your inlaws sound unbelievably nasty.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 06/05/2024 07:45

My inlaws are millionaires and have never given us a penny and we have lived on the breadline, missing meals etc. When my eldest was 18 months and I was pregnant with my middle our heating got condemned and we needed £6k to install central heating (was 1970s warm air) and that year we had extremely cold weather, snow for weeks etc. They knew we had no heating, still didn't offer to help. We lived with no heating for 2 years until my Mum inherited some money (as my mum was very low income) and lent us the £6k which we paid back.

Now we have a combined income of over £100k and are immensely proud that we have overcome every challenge life threw at us (we had an awful 7 years, I really didn't think we would make it) and we did it all on our own!

Annoyingly sister in law who is 2 years younger than DH has had food shops bought, 2 new cars, her council tax debt paid off before she went to court, rent paid, money gifts etc etc. That stung a lot when we were struggling, but inlaws say they knew we would manage but SIL is a dumpster fire who they have to help. Whatever, we made it on our own and are proud of that and a decade on, sil is still a dumpster fire and has moved in with the inlaws after losing her house.

guinnesschocolatecake · 06/05/2024 07:09

LifeExperience · 05/05/2024 12:33

I think there is much more to the story. You have made career and life choices that mean you have little money after bills are paid, but those were your choices. You also chose to partner with a man who already had 4 children to provide for.

Perhaps she thinks you could do better. Perhaps she plans to leave you an inheritance for your retirement, and is afraid you will spend it all now if you get it now.

I have a lot of money. I have adult children. If my children never pursued education or training to better themselves and made life choices that meant they would always live on the edge of poverty, I would make provision for their old age, but I wouldn't give them anything now, because I will not fund poor life choices, and not at least trying to live up to one's potential is a very poor life choice.

It so happens that many professions of high societal value are poorly remunerated. Most of them are also female-dominated. (There is research showing that when women access professions this depresses the wages in these fields.) I would never tell someone who is in full-time or near full-time employment in a valuable caring role off for having made that career choice and 'not having lived up to their potential'. They are giving their potential to helping out the weak and vulnerable and that is to their credit.

I really hope you one day will reconsider your perspective when you find yourself in need of care and at the mercy of such professionals. OP is giving her talents to a much deserving field. The fact we as a society value it so little is shameful.

BustyLee · 06/05/2024 01:44

Halfheadhighlights · 04/05/2024 22:53

She sounds mean and it baffles me how some people refuse to help their children.

I’d never watch my children struggle if I could help them

Especially when they are treating some bloke.

Charlie2121 · 06/05/2024 01:12

Woohow · 05/05/2024 22:06

This is deliberate and it's to keep you on the hook. Look up 'future faking'.

That’s precisely what it is.

I’m in a similar position. My parents are very wealthy, mainly through inheritance. They were gifted huge amounts of assets at a young age. Think multiple properties, a large profitable business, land etc.

They have given me nothing. I have no issue with this as I prefer to be able to stand on my own 2 feet.

As time has progressed DH and I have managed to both reach big salaries so finances are not an issue.

My siblings however have not fared anywhere near as well and this is where the future faking comes in. My parents use their money to control my siblings.

My DH got sick of hearing about how much inheritance there will be in years to come particularly when we have no real need for it due to our own efforts. He told them in no uncertain terms where to stick it and from then on has had little contact with them.

My siblings on the other hand feel they have to pander to them to protect their future inheritance which they appear reliant on.

I find the whole thing distasteful on all sides and as a result am not really that close to my family anymore.

My DS is 3 and hasn’t yet clocked on to the fact that he’s never seen his Dad and GP together. I’m not sure how I’ll explain it to him yet when the time comes.

Runnerinthenight · 06/05/2024 00:48

potato57 · 06/05/2024 00:12

I have seen many people get handouts from rich parents and it's messed them up. They basically have no consequences to their actions, they do anything they want, and then it backfires on them. Their life has no purpose and they hate themselves because they know they won't achieve as much as their parents have. Nothing actually makes them happy.

Since you do what you love and don't want to change it I'd call that a bigger win.

The OP isn't expecting a "handout", just a little bit of financial support to make her life easier. That's not unreasonable, given the extent of her mother's wealth. That's her grandchildren too that she is willing to see go without while she has the means to help the whole family. She's hateful!

Runnerinthenight · 06/05/2024 00:46

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 05/05/2024 23:40

How could you possibly know that unless you are the OP

By a process of deduction?

How do you know either unless you are the OP?!

Kpo58 · 06/05/2024 00:31

I'd stop going out for lunch with her. Now the weather is (supposed to be) getting better, I'd just suggest a picnic in the park instead as you can't afford to go out for lunch and see if she gets the hint. Hopefully that way you can find out if she is oblivious to your situation or just doesn't care.

echt · 06/05/2024 00:24

I'm amazed that the OP got on the property ladder on a minimum wage. It's in an expensive area. Hang on, it's in a rough area.

Recruiter123 · 06/05/2024 00:20

We didn’t expect anything but when my gp's died, and dh's gp's, both our mothers gave us something out of what they inherited (I think in both cases it all went to the children in the will, so they were kind enough to share).

I'd like to think I'd share with my dc too.

potato57 · 06/05/2024 00:12

I have seen many people get handouts from rich parents and it's messed them up. They basically have no consequences to their actions, they do anything they want, and then it backfires on them. Their life has no purpose and they hate themselves because they know they won't achieve as much as their parents have. Nothing actually makes them happy.

Since you do what you love and don't want to change it I'd call that a bigger win.

mrsnoodle55 · 06/05/2024 00:04

I don’t think YABU at all. My in-laws are beyond wealthy, many times millionaires due to selling a business then buying tons of property. Their monthly income will be 10 x ours at least. They are in their 70’s. But- they don’t offer to help with anything financially for their 3 kids/grandkids. We are all working full time, decent jobs but still little left over for luxuries, like everyone else. But, they also really struggle to enjoy spending anything on themselves too which speaks volumes. I truly think their only enjoyment of their enormous wealth is from seeing the figures get bigger and bigger.

I don’t understand their mentality. It’s not what my family would do, it’s not how I would be, but I have finally made peace with it and watch from afar as they nit pick over costs, look for cheap holidays etc and moan about the cost of everything then don’t buy it.

The awful irony is they can’t grasp that all this stashed money may well be gone in the future in 12 months of funding their care. So all that stashing and saving will be wiped out in a flash.

BustyLaRoux · 06/05/2024 00:04

LuckyPeonies · 05/05/2024 22:31

OP, there HAS to be a reason! No parent who has an even halfway decent relationship with their children will behave like this.

Do you have siblings? If so, how is her relationship with them?

Have you made poor life choices that negatively impacted your financial security, and she feels like your situation is self-inflicted?

You write you have children of your own, how are their relationships with her?

Sadly there really are parents who behave like this. Mine is one of them.

BustyLaRoux · 06/05/2024 00:02

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 05/05/2024 23:40

How could you possibly know that unless you are the OP

And how could you possibly KNOW that there was one?

BustyLaRoux · 06/05/2024 00:01

housethatbuiltme · 05/05/2024 19:20

This makes me cringe so hard... as someone who lost their mother recently the thought that your counting HER pennies on how much you think you are owed and entitled too and bitching that she likely wont die soon enough for you to get your hands on it is frankly disgusting.

But it’s not about that is it? It’s about her mother not giving a shit. Watching her daughter struggle and not wanting to help. What does it say? It says I don’t care. I’m comfortable watching my child struggle. Most people who have children WANT to help. I’d rather go without so my children wouldn’t have to. Because I love them more than I love myself. As the child of a parent who will never do a thing to help me unless there is a material exchange for him, it makes me feel lonely and unloved. It isn’t about the money per se, but the message.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 05/05/2024 23:40

Runnerinthenight · 05/05/2024 21:51

That's horseshit.

How could you possibly know that unless you are the OP

mrlistersgelfbride · 05/05/2024 23:37

Struggling to believe this is real.
I cannot fathom swanning around with thousands/millions of pounds in the bank and 8 houses whilst my child and grandchildren can't afford to put the heating on.
YANBU.
Stop going for lunch with her, it's costing you extra money.

Pinkbendyman · 05/05/2024 23:08

If I was lucky enough to be in your mum’s financial position, I would help my adult DC out as much as possible. I’d be happy to, especially if I knew they were struggling to the extent that you are.

Runnerinthenight · 05/05/2024 23:05

ClairDeLaLune · 05/05/2024 22:55

Sorry OP but it isn’t very nice to be talking about how long she might live and when you’d get your inheritance - it sounds a bit like you’d rather this to be sooner than later - so maybe she’s picked up on that, and if she has I don’t blame her frankly.

Well it's not very nice for a mother to live a luxury life and watch her daughter and family struggle! She just sounds like a selfish cow!

ClairDeLaLune · 05/05/2024 22:55

Sorry OP but it isn’t very nice to be talking about how long she might live and when you’d get your inheritance - it sounds a bit like you’d rather this to be sooner than later - so maybe she’s picked up on that, and if she has I don’t blame her frankly.

Inyournewdress · 05/05/2024 22:45

I agree that it’s baffling, in your position I would feel sad about it and in her position I’d definitely want to share my good fortune with you. Very mean on her part. It’s true she isn’t obliged, but still.

GoingDownLikeBHS · 05/05/2024 22:38

I think the OP has explained the situation very well. Sadly there are parents like this, and there are those on MN who would support parents to behave like this. It's fascinating and upsetting all at once; I don't know if it's a reflection on society that anyone would think this was ok?