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Rich parent doesn’t help very poor (adult) child

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Richparentpoorchild · 04/05/2024 22:50

I’d be very interested to hear what people make of this. My Mum is worth a few million quid. My husband and I, and our children are on the breadline and have been for at least 15 years.

We have no extra money for treats or holidays or anything nice. At Christmas, I sell things on eBay to make some money, so that I can buy family members Christmas presents. We never put the heating on because we just can’t afford it.

My Mum on the other hand, has several luxury holidays a year, always flying business class. She lives in a huge mansion and wants for nothing. I think at the last count she had eight properties. Some of these were gifted to her, from her rich parents.

I know that I don’t need to ask this really, because I know that it’s weird that she doesn’t offer any help to me, but what does everybody make of this?

I am now 56 years old, and she is almost 80. She is fighting fit healthwise and all of the women in the family live until about 100 years old, so whilst I will inherit, I will most likely be in my 70s at that time, which is not really when I’m going to need the money .

If it was you, in her position, do you think you would do something now to help me? I am on the bones of my arse.

we go out for lunch now and then and she never treats me, I always have to pay my half.

She has a boyfriend who she treats a lot,

OP posts:
Mastmw7g · 05/05/2024 16:14

Everything has always been a financial struggle for me while my parents are living quite well, always traveling and going back and forth between their summer and winter homes. However, they worked for everything they have. There is no generational wealth, so I don't begrudge them enjoying what they built while they are healthy enough to do so. My sister feels differently and is very bitter. I don't think the OP is bitter, though. She's dealing with a situation where there's boasting which is hurtful and tone deaf. This means OP has to regularly confront the differences in circumstances.

minipie · 05/05/2024 16:12

Did you leave school at 16? Did she disagree with that choice?

Not saying that excuses it but if you’ve had nothing from her since 16 then that seems like when it started?

In your shoes I’d struggle to see her tbh. It would rile me a LOT. Pp say she has no duty to help you out but she had lots of parental help so actually I think she should “pay it forward” and I bet that’s what her parents would have expected.

Charlize43 · 05/05/2024 16:07

Do you have any other siblings or are you an only child?

It does sound like she doesn't particularly care for you. Was she particularly maternal as a mother? Is she a narcissist?

WhatDaPoint · 05/05/2024 16:05

I suspect it's to do with you having a low paid job and marrying a guy with four kids. That's obviously not a good reason not to help you out but it's likely a reason why she doesn't.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 05/05/2024 15:41

Richparentpoorchild · 05/05/2024 14:31

There is no "back story". I won't be asking her for any money. There have been a few occasions when she has said that she's going to give me money for X, and then it never happens. One time she offered to help with a large purchase, then when the time came, she said she had changed her mind and invested the money elsewhere. So there's no way I am ever asking her for anything (and not have I ever).

This post was just to see how others would feel in my shoes. There aren't any solutions. She does talk about her wealth quite a lot, which is rather annoying too. She has been known to spend our monthly food shopping budget on one night out for dinner and cocktails. She then talks about this, and will even say that she has spent on one meal what we probably spend in a month on food. Doesn't say it in a sneery way, but blimey, she doesn't read the room.

I know I sound bitchy. I don't mean to. It's just all a bit baffling.

I don't think you sound bitchy, I think she sounds horrible. I can't imagine being in the position where I have money and my child doesn't and I don't help my child without being asked. Sure, my child will inherit but better for her to have what I can give now, to make her life easier now than to have her wait for me to die to get any benefit from my own good fortune.
I'm furious on your behalf.

Timee · 05/05/2024 15:40

If it was you, in her position, do you think you would do something now to help me?

I would but that's no use.
An inheritance is no use to anyone when they are in their 70s.
No-one can change your mother but it's very sad.
There was a thread recently from a parent wanting to give money to her DC. It was mostly lovely and lots of others doing the same. A few resentful that their own parents didn't help (therefore it was a bad thing).
We help our DC. They don't need it badly but I'd rather they had it in their 20s than their 50s.

Maybe you should just actually ask her for some money?

betterangels · 05/05/2024 15:40

Lavenderflower · 05/05/2024 10:34

Do you think your mum has an issue with you marrying a man with four children? Perhaps she doesn't want to subside them or your husband?

I'd wager that's part of it.

ThisHeartySloth · 05/05/2024 15:23

Do you always see her at her house or out somewhere? If so, I'd invite her and her boyfriend round for lunch at yours. Maybe seeing the reality will help them understand that your way of life is very different to theirs, and then she might consider helping a bit.

pontipinemum · 05/05/2024 15:22

I don't think you sound like a bitch. Family help each other out. I can't imagine sitting on millions, having several home and loads of holidays while my child and grandchildren struggled to get by.

I'm sure you won't but when it does become your time to inherit remember what this time felt like and help out your children.

rainingsnoring · 05/05/2024 15:21

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 05/05/2024 14:58

There is always a back story, life isn't as simple as she has loads of money and should be sharing the wealth while you contribute nothing to the arrangement.

She is your mum you must know why she doesn't help you out if you are struggling and it is likely to be disagreeing with your life choices that got you where you are today. Some of those might feel, or actually be unfair.

If you can't be honest here, I hope you at least are being honest with yourself, you do know why.

Perhaps the mum is a miser, an exceptionally selfish person, tone deaf and a narcissist. That could be the back story.

Anusername · 05/05/2024 15:17

im a mother to two kids (6 year old and 3 month old) and I’m already thinking about how I can help them financially when they grow up. Did you live quite comfortably when you were young? What happened when you grow up?

HappySonHappyMum · 05/05/2024 15:16

From now on: "Sounds like you had a great night out but can we talk about something else as it's not something we're in the position of being able to do at the moment." "Sorry Mum, can't come out for lunch, I just can't afford it at the moment - you're welcome to come and have a sandwich at mine and spend some time with your grandkids, they'd love to see you." "I'm glad you enjoyed your trip, we're saving for a holiday at the moment, we're hoping to get away next year if we have no unforeseen expenses." "We're giving handmade gifts this year as Christmas has become so expensive." "I'd love to be able to see you more Mum but I can't afford the extra petrol this month."
She'd have to have skin thicker than a rhino not to be able to read the room after those replies.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 05/05/2024 15:14

Badburyrings · 05/05/2024 15:04

No, there really does not need to be a back story.

My mum is exactly the same. Now thankfully we do not need her help as we all have very good jobs. Especially one of my sisters (£250k per annum type job). However, this has not always been the case. Since the age of 16 we have had no financial help. Even at times when desperately needed no help was offered. I think many moons ago my brother had a loan for a house deposit but had to pay it back with interest.

Perhaps the "back story" is she wanted you to make your own way in the world. To build resilience, independence, aspirations, and have the immense satisfaction you did it yourself. So she knew you would always have those skills to take care of yourself. A priceless gift.

And it succeeded.

Serengetti56 · 05/05/2024 15:13

My most generous interpretation of OP’s mother is that she is indelibly entitled and has never once in her life been expected to share, so it’s an alien concept to her and probably hasn’t even crossed her mind.

What sort of Christmas / birthday gifts do you get, OP?

BlueLimeRun · 05/05/2024 15:10

@Richparentpoorchild it must feel very hurtful.
She must be very self centred.

WinterDeWinter · 05/05/2024 15:09

I would have to ask her, if I was you. She sounds awful.
I'd have to say what you've said to us - Mum, I'm curious as to why you've made such a point of not helping me out when things have been bad. Is it on principle or have I done something that makes you not want to help?

And then 'okay, thanks. I can't imagine seeing my own kids miserable when i had it in my power to make things a bit less so, and that's why I asked.'

I suppose you risk her cutting you out of the will in rage, though.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 05/05/2024 15:08

Richparentpoorchild · 05/05/2024 10:22

There is no back story. We have never fallen out. I don't do drugs and only have a drink occasionally. I've not had one penny from her since I started working at 16. I've never asked for any money, and none has ever been offered. It's quite obvious that we don't have money. Our house is tiny, in a rough part of town. We have no meals out, no take aways, no holidays. Mum lives in enormous beautiful home in an expensive area. They have multiple holidays each year and the best of everything.

Of course there is a back story. You are just not revealing it so you get people on your side.

Badburyrings · 05/05/2024 15:04

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 05/05/2024 14:58

There is always a back story, life isn't as simple as she has loads of money and should be sharing the wealth while you contribute nothing to the arrangement.

She is your mum you must know why she doesn't help you out if you are struggling and it is likely to be disagreeing with your life choices that got you where you are today. Some of those might feel, or actually be unfair.

If you can't be honest here, I hope you at least are being honest with yourself, you do know why.

No, there really does not need to be a back story.

My mum is exactly the same. Now thankfully we do not need her help as we all have very good jobs. Especially one of my sisters (£250k per annum type job). However, this has not always been the case. Since the age of 16 we have had no financial help. Even at times when desperately needed no help was offered. I think many moons ago my brother had a loan for a house deposit but had to pay it back with interest.

laclochette · 05/05/2024 15:04

OP - when she says thoughtless things like how much she's spent on dinner vs your monthly food budget, do you speak up?

The "when you say x, I feel y" formula is your friend here as it helps avoid making assertions about other people which they can then dispute eg "that's a thoughtless thing to say" which then easily leads to retorts such as "I can say what I like" etc.

So, "When you say that, it makes me feel sad" as a super simple example (the more accurate the description of the feeling you can pin down, the better). There is nothing there that anyone can argue with as your feelings are your truth.

I agree with a PP that there is something very odd going on with your mum's psychology which may not be to do with your relationship but rather something else she is living out through that relationship. The need to vaunt her superiority over you is utterly bizarre - one wouldn't say that soet of thing to strangers, let alone one's kin, so crass and insensitive is it - so there's obviously some weird motor driving it in her. It isn't your job to puzzle this out nor to fix it, but sometimes I find comfort in knowing that I am actually just a proxy for someone else in an interaction and it's playing out with me as a stand-in for them. It helps me remember it isn't necessarily about me and that makes me feel better.

UPALLNIGHTMNETTING · 05/05/2024 15:02

Your mother sounds awful OP, not surprised you are annoyed. Anyone who goes on about their wealth even without your particular circumstances - 🤢.

Cattyisbatty · 05/05/2024 15:00

I don’t get this either.
We are comfortable and we would def help out DCs to get started in life (they are both at uni and we pay their rent), although they will have to get jobs before we start helping them with rent if needed.
If lucky enough to be a grandma I’d def treat the GCs etc. I benefitted from inheritance as my parents died young. I always pay for meals if our w DC etc (DS is fairly well off for a student as he work for a year but I’d rather his money was used for his future).

Animatic · 05/05/2024 14:59

Richparentpoorchild · 05/05/2024 14:31

There is no "back story". I won't be asking her for any money. There have been a few occasions when she has said that she's going to give me money for X, and then it never happens. One time she offered to help with a large purchase, then when the time came, she said she had changed her mind and invested the money elsewhere. So there's no way I am ever asking her for anything (and not have I ever).

This post was just to see how others would feel in my shoes. There aren't any solutions. She does talk about her wealth quite a lot, which is rather annoying too. She has been known to spend our monthly food shopping budget on one night out for dinner and cocktails. She then talks about this, and will even say that she has spent on one meal what we probably spend in a month on food. Doesn't say it in a sneery way, but blimey, she doesn't read the room.

I know I sound bitchy. I don't mean to. It's just all a bit baffling.

What was your relationship growing up? To ne it sounds more of a dire case of sibling rivalry (e.g.one sister flashing wealth to another to conpensate for some childhood grievances) , rather than anything remotely looking like mother-daughter.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 05/05/2024 14:58

There is always a back story, life isn't as simple as she has loads of money and should be sharing the wealth while you contribute nothing to the arrangement.

She is your mum you must know why she doesn't help you out if you are struggling and it is likely to be disagreeing with your life choices that got you where you are today. Some of those might feel, or actually be unfair.

If you can't be honest here, I hope you at least are being honest with yourself, you do know why.

Yousay55 · 05/05/2024 14:57

I can’t imagine treating my dc like this. Whatever choices we make in our own lives that affect our jobs and income, if my dc needed help and I had the means, I wouldn’t hesitate.

Badburyrings · 05/05/2024 14:52

Richparentpoorchild · 05/05/2024 14:31

There is no "back story". I won't be asking her for any money. There have been a few occasions when she has said that she's going to give me money for X, and then it never happens. One time she offered to help with a large purchase, then when the time came, she said she had changed her mind and invested the money elsewhere. So there's no way I am ever asking her for anything (and not have I ever).

This post was just to see how others would feel in my shoes. There aren't any solutions. She does talk about her wealth quite a lot, which is rather annoying too. She has been known to spend our monthly food shopping budget on one night out for dinner and cocktails. She then talks about this, and will even say that she has spent on one meal what we probably spend in a month on food. Doesn't say it in a sneery way, but blimey, she doesn't read the room.

I know I sound bitchy. I don't mean to. It's just all a bit baffling.

I posted upthread about my mum being the same. She does the same to us, many many years ago one of my siblings was in a pretty desperate position, had been made redundant, husband working minimum wage, large mortgage etc. My mum would suggest perhaps she could help out, give my sibling some money etc and then never did.

Like you I would never ask her for money. Thankfully I don't need it now but even when I did she would be the last person I would ask. It is not as simple as the posters saying "just ask her".

Once when I was in a shop (and doing well at the time) I wanted to buy something but realised I did not have my purse with me. I asked her to buy it for me and I would transfer the money to her but she refused.

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