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Colourofspring · 04/05/2024 14:12

I have posted about this before but the situation has got worse. We live in terraced housing with small back yards & our neighbour has built a massive garden room that fills the whole back yard pretty much and looks directly into my 12 year old daughters bedroom.

The neighbours have teenage boys and yesterday (and for the last few weekends) there have been large groups of teenage boys in the garden room looking straight into DD’s bedroom so she has to sit with her curtains drawn all the time. I feel like it’s not on on multiple accounts - it’s also really noisy and impossible to sit in our back yard quietly too but I am more bothered about how much of an invasion of privacy it is for my DD.

Aibu? Anyone got any advice? Am feeling pretty pissed off and resentful about it to be honest - I feel like our peace and privacy is being invaded. It’s really tricky in terraces anyway as it’s such a small space!’

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FishersGate · 04/05/2024 15:54

We have this my neighbours have a huge outbuilding no way is it under permitted development, council aren't interested btw it faces the house and as it's raised it faces my son and daughter's bedroom. They also have cctv pointing up from the garden room window apparently covering their garden but faces my kids rooms. Police went and checked and it doesn't reach that far apparently (we all know the zooms ).

Good luck as we have been left to put up with it

boyohboys · 04/05/2024 15:44

@CornishPorsche we have blinds so not such an issue in the winter but we have a verandah outside and it's where you catch the afternoon/evening sun so sit out when it's nice

VWT5 · 04/05/2024 15:43

It may be permitted development, but they also still have to comply separately with building regulations.

I would suggest you send photos along with a plan diagram to the Council Planning Officer and seek their advice.

CornishPorsche · 04/05/2024 15:40

@boyohboys in your situation I'd be putting the privacy film on the windows of your garden room....

boyohboys · 04/05/2024 15:39

Whilst I do sympathise being so overlooked, I am the neighbour (not literally but same scenario).

We built have a garden room at the bottom of our small garden as a daytime office and for our dc to use as a den. NDN has strongly objected many times because he feels we are constantly staring at him. We most definitely aren't but are now facing the houses and so facing that direction. he sits working at the window so any time he sees anyone vaguely looking frontwards assumes they are staring at him and gets the rage. He also got the council involved as he disputed ours being P.D but it definitely is. Not to say that's the case with your neighbour, but if/once you're satisfied the building is legal, I'd be using privacy film and moving on as there's really nothing you can do as they're not likely to stop using it and it's just causing yourself unnecessary stress.

Hankunamatata · 04/05/2024 15:37

Privacy film. Either professionally done or DIY. Friend lives in a high street and she had it done. It's brilliant. Let's full light into her rooms but no one can see in. Though she does have funny situations of people doing their make up or hair.

SoftPuppyBlanket · 04/05/2024 15:35

Just get some decent blinds, surely no-one needs mn to work out how to stop people seeing into a room?!
You can go to the council at your leisure to see if your neighbours have got the required permission once your daughter has some privacy.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 04/05/2024 15:29

They made a big deal of it being ‘permitted development’ but I don’t think it is to be honest

Don't just take their word gif it. You need to contact the council.

CornishPorsche · 04/05/2024 15:19

Just because they say it's permitted development doesn't mean it is. Report it to the council and ask them to inspect it.

Put privacy film on all your windows at the back of the house. You get the stuff that makes it look like a mirror from the outside, so they can't see in, but you can see out just fine.

If they are dicks, then I guess asking them to stop their son and his friends from staring into a young girls room isn't going to work, so I wouldn't bother.

Biker47 · 04/05/2024 15:14

If it's above 15sqM in area and it's less than 1m to the boundary, that could also breach permitted development IIRC, depending on local regulations.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 04/05/2024 15:13

You can buy some privacy film, you can see out however they can’t see in, I’d get a black out blind for the light.

dragonscannotswim · 04/05/2024 15:10

Contact your local council and ask for advice from the planning department. Ask about the lights and the windows looking right into your DD's room.

Crumpleton · 04/05/2024 15:06

We live in terraced housing with small back yards & our neighbour has built a massive garden room that fills the whole back yard pretty much

There are still rules that have to be followed whether permitted development or not, boundary restrictions/hight restrictions.

I'd have a word with planning at your local council as if it does fill the whole back yard the permitted development rules may have been breached.

littlegrebe · 04/05/2024 15:03

Colourofspring · 04/05/2024 14:19

They made a big deal of it being ‘permitted development’ but I don’t think it is to be honest

Right well you need to speak to the planning department at your local council and ask them to check. If they've not kept within the (pretty precise) limitations of PD they'll be made to apply for retrospective planning permission and if they don't get it they'll have to take it down. They won't like it but I think if they've got groups of teenage boys looking into your daughter's bedroom the relationship has probably already gone.

Meanwhile invest in some really good blinds for you daughter's room, the sort that let a decent amount of light in but which you can't see through.

Spirallingdownwards · 04/05/2024 14:59

If you think it has fallen foul of rules for permitted development then report to the council.

Colourofspring · 04/05/2024 14:59

Seeline · 04/05/2024 14:55

@Colourofspring I assume you mean a glorified shed rather than an extension to the house?
If it's as big as you say, I doubt that is was permitted development. Extensions and outbuildings can't cover more than half of the plot (so including the front garden as well,).
How long has it been there?

About 6 months!

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Seeline · 04/05/2024 14:55

@Colourofspring I assume you mean a glorified shed rather than an extension to the house?
If it's as big as you say, I doubt that is was permitted development. Extensions and outbuildings can't cover more than half of the plot (so including the front garden as well,).
How long has it been there?

Crazycrazylady · 04/05/2024 14:49

Honestly I'm not sure what you can actually ask them to doz please don't sit in your new room ?

Privacy film is your answer and it's not expensive

FourOfDiamonds · 04/05/2024 14:41

For permitted development it would need to only take up 50% of the existing outdoor space on their land; if it takes up the whole garden as you say it may have breached this (unless they have a big drive out front). It also shouldn't be within 7m of their rear boundary so again if it fills the whole garden that would be a breach. Might be worth checking? Could you put a fence up?

Colourofspring · 04/05/2024 14:24

Sillyjane · 04/05/2024 14:20

If it’s permitted development there is little you can do. I very much doubt teenage lads are staring in. Put some one way film on the glass or put up voiles. I recall your previous thread, why didn’t you just do that then?

My last post was about the very bright lighting they put up which I spoke to the neighbours about and they have kind of toned it down a bit but not loads.

I am thinking of speaking to them again but actually some of the ideas here are good- we might try and get some of that bamboo roll fence to block off some of the visibility!

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TinyYellow · 04/05/2024 14:21

Put some film on the window.

A group of teenage boys is doing nothing wrong by hanging out in one of their back gardens and and they are probably a lot less interested in looking through your daughters window than you seem to think.

AgnesX · 04/05/2024 14:21

Colourofspring · 04/05/2024 14:16

No they didn’t get planning permission- all done under ‘permitted development’

But it's permitted so you don't have any recourse via planning (which is what I was getting at). If you think there's something dodgy about the build look into it, otherwise you're still in the same position.

Sillyjane · 04/05/2024 14:20

If it’s permitted development there is little you can do. I very much doubt teenage lads are staring in. Put some one way film on the glass or put up voiles. I recall your previous thread, why didn’t you just do that then?

IgnoranceNotOk · 04/05/2024 14:19

Can you put a fence on your side of the wall?

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