That The La Leche League have dangerously lost the plot?

I only produced very small amounts of milk due to PCOS and had to supplement with formula. Should I not have bothered?

You know if you went and used 'transwoman' rather than 'trans woman' on social media the people you're defending here would tear you apart for transphobia?

What @Jollyjoy said. If the main aim of this was actually feeding your baby, you'd choose to bottle feed. The cases I've read about, the baby is always being bottle fed as well as not enough milk can ever be made.

The sheer amount of effort that would take surely makes it obvious that only actual transwomen with a genuine want to feed their baby would do it.

Not sure 'effort' is the right word when all the steps involved in the process of 'becoming a woman' are gratifying?

Is it even possible, even with all the meds in the world for a biological male to produce milk like a woman does? I remember when I was breastfeeding the engorgement I would get, and the huge amounts of milk I would pump when I was away from my son. I just don't believe it is possible for a male to do this, and if it's just small amounts of milk, what's the point? Most tiny babies would find this very stressful.

Exactly. People go to all sorts of weird lengths to fulfil their fetishes. I remember watching a documentary about a man who was imprisoned for eating another man, he'd met him on the Internet. One got turned on by eating human flesh, the other being eaten. I'd say that's more extreme that 'transitioning'. You can tell the difference between those who have gender dysphoria and those who have a kink for dressing up as women by whether the images they post of themselves are pornified or not. Many of them are.

👏👏👏👏 a hundred times yes!!

I thought like you did once, but the more I looked into this the more disturbing things I learned about AGPs and it’s not just the breastfeeding- it’s the idea of themselves as a woman that’s arousing. So all that effort - all worth it to fulfill their fantasies. And then they find a woman who’s so willing to see anyone who says they are a woman as a woman, that will gladly and unknowingly offer up their baby to be part of that fantasy. Unfortunately men put a lot of effort into abusing women and children, there are countless examples of this.

wtf does "behave like women" mean?

What makes a woman a woman is being born a girl and growing up. Not who they marry, how they dress, what they are called, what they put on their skin, how they behave or how they feed their babies. Only women can live life as a woman.

Please educate people on how tanswomen live their lives as women then.

They don't.

How are trans women having their own babies? You mean using their very male penises and testicles and testosterone to make sperm which only men can do, and then use that sperm to impregnate a woman, since only women can produce eggs?

Not all trans women remove their penis. Self ID and our culture of immediately validating means a man doesn’t have to do any of what you describe to be seen as a trans woman and could literally just decide tomorrow Adam is now Amelia and that is that.

Please educate people on how tanswomen live their lives as women then.

We all know. We are educated, that's the thing. The propaganda isn't working any more.

Lesbians still have female names and behave like women 🙄

But you said being a woman involves wearing make-up, female clothes, and often marrying men. And some short versions of names are unisex.
You're contradicting yourself. There's no logic there.

Please educate people on how tanswomen live their lives as women then.

That picture above is absolutely disgusting. The baby (if it actually is a real baby?) will be traumatised for life if it gets to see that image when they are old enough to understand what it’s about.

The ‘fluid’ that these trans women are secreting is highly suspect…seriously, has there been adequate testing of the long-term effects on babies being given hormone-induced ‘milk’?! WTF is anybody allowing this?

The protocol used to induce lactation for women who haven’t given birth is very difficult to get support to implement as you need medication to do it and support to ensure you’re going about it the right way. Most/all of the women doing this work are doing so because they want to provide the most optimum nutrition and with the medication and support to get lactation going they have the physiology to maintain a full milk supply. The goal is feeding the baby.

A trans woman wanting to use their (underdeveloped) breast tissue to make ‘milk’ which is not enough to maintain anywhere near the level of milk a newborn needs, is doing so because THEY want to be seen and validated as a ‘woman’. The baby and the experience (and dare I say, the sensation) is about them, it isn’t about the baby at all. Add to that I bet a trans woman would get domperidone prescribed to help with supply much more easily than a mum.

And I’m gonna say it, breastfeeding resources are so shite and limited in this country. So many women stop breastfeeding because they have no support, why should men get to take our spaces to seek advice and support? Make a trans breastfeeding group if individuals care so much about it, but then I bet they wouldn’t go to it!

How do women behave?

But @BalletCat, they don't have to do any of those things to be considered a trans woman. It would actually get you described as transphobic (in some circles) if you stated those things

You're being ridiculous. No one thinks bottle feeding is feeding like a man. 🙄

Lesbians still have female names and behave like women 🙄

Of course there are men with fetishes I'm not stupid. I just don't believe that a man with a fetish would go to the length of literally transitioning which takes years, having top or bottom surgery, taking estrogen to alter their bodies and voices, having their own baby and then inducing lactation with a hormonal protocol.

The sheer amount of effort that would take surely makes it obvious that only actual transwomen with a genuine want to feed their baby would do it.

You're being ridiculous by insinuating that trans women wanting to feed their baby is about anything other than wanting to feed their baby like a woman, because they live their life as woman.

So what are bottle-feeding mothers doing - feeding their baby like a man?

The only way to live your life as a woman is to be female. Everything an adult human female does is her living her life as a woman. Including bottle-feeding her baby.

Ah stereotypes. Gotcha.

My son wears makeup, clothes from the ladies department, and will (if he gets married) will marry a man. He's more stereotypically "woman like" in his behavior.

Does that mean he's a woman.

No of course not. Men can wear what they want, including makeup. They are still men. Stereotypes can get to fuck.

Edited to add. All the things bio women do? Transwomen are welcome to my periods. I spent 2 days this month in too much pain to move.

I think breastfeeding groups should be inclusive and supportive of all biological females who choose to breastfeed.

Bottle feeding is also brilliant, for those who choose not to breastfeed or don't have the equipment to.

Biological males breastfeeding is bad parenting that does not put the child's best interests first.

Dress as a woman, wear makeup, behave as woman, usually marry a man and have a female name, do all the things biological women do.

So a lesbian who likes combat boots and trousers and wears no make-up, isn't a woman then?
That is literally just a list of stereotypes.

Good God, that's genuinely disturbing. What mother would let some bloke use their child as a prop for his fetish? I hope the child never sees that when they're older.