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To not want to get my cat microchipped

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Geriatriccatowner · 04/05/2024 11:36

My cat is 18. She’s an indoor cat and spends most of her days curled up on a bed.

She won’t attempt to go outside.

Why should I pay for this invasive procedure on a cat that doesn’t need it?

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ConsistentlyInconsistant · 09/06/2024 11:55

Just to dispel a few myths on here. Vets are not the microchip police! Nothing will happen if you don't chip your elderly cats. The most a vet can do is recommend that you do. They DO NOT report those who aren't, it's not their job.
Also as someone who has chipped hundreds of cats and kittens I can say the majority don't even notice it being done (especially if you feed them likilix at the same time!). Dogs tend to be a bit more dramatic!

FionaP1959 · 09/06/2024 11:48

I feel coerced into telephoning the vet tomorrow to make an appointment for our elderly cat to be microchipped. Both the fine and being told that the vets will not treat her if we don't have this done. Cats belong to themselves, they choose to stay with us. They choose their owners.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 05/05/2024 21:01

catsnore · 04/05/2024 21:17

Most sensible answer so far!

Defra are on a mission to register cats (and chickens) it would seem.

Feral cats are not included in the legislation.

Apparently vets only have a local database and there is no national database that records microchips so it seems a bit pointless to me. Your cat could jump in a van and get driven 50 miles and taken to a vet there. The microchip would tell vets at the other end diddly squat other than that the cat has a microchip.

It's all very bizarre. Why this need to control and register everything?

You can be sure the answer is either money or disease control. Either microchip companies are making a fortune or the government are anticipating some sort of cat Covid.

Either way, I won't be microchipping my elderly cat!

This is incorrect. There are many databases that microchips get recorded onto, and they're national so, yes, if a cat travelled from Portsmouth to Glasgow in a van a vet in Scotland could look up the owner's details.

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/05/2024 18:25

MsFaversham · 05/05/2024 08:52

My young cat is now and elderly one suffering from pain and I can tell you she would be fine. However, I wouldn’t get an indoor cat done but wait until I had to take them to the vet for something else and get it done then, if I and the vet thought it necessary.

Not all cats are the same, though. What one elderly cat would take in their stride could potentially kill another.

Jux · 05/05/2024 18:21

One of our cats was microchipped at age 14 as it wasn't a requirement until then. She didn't like it when she was injected but she fights harder when we're doing the spot-on. She's had no issues.

I would talkto the vet about it when you take her in for something else, or phone them and ask.

MsFaversham · 05/05/2024 08:52

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/05/2024 08:32

The thing is, what's not invasive for a young, healthy kitten is potentially incredibly traumatic for an elderly cat that's likely suffering from pain and senility/dementia.

My young cat is now and elderly one suffering from pain and I can tell you she would be fine. However, I wouldn’t get an indoor cat done but wait until I had to take them to the vet for something else and get it done then, if I and the vet thought it necessary.

Devilshands · 05/05/2024 08:47

I guess the question is, if someone finds out, can you pay the fine? Or would you struggle? Or would it make you go into debt? If the answer is ‘no, £500 is a pain to lose but I won’t lose sleep over it’ then don’t do it.

TBH (nicely) your cat is 18. You’ve managed so far. Why bother now if you can afford not to?

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/05/2024 08:43

@aodirjjd yes, our vet refused to chip our kitten until he was under anaesthetic for his neuter.

I wouldn't be putting an 18 yo cat under anaesthetic for anything, really, let alone something as minor as a microchip!

aodirjjd · 05/05/2024 08:38

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/05/2024 08:32

The thing is, what's not invasive for a young, healthy kitten is potentially incredibly traumatic for an elderly cat that's likely suffering from pain and senility/dementia.

I think it’s also how do you define invasive. It’s a needle big enough to inject a grain of rice into a cat. Of course it hurts them, it would hurt us! but it is over and done with quickly . Probably quickly forgotten about in a young cat, still ideally done when cat under anaesthetic for other reasons like being spade.

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/05/2024 08:32

MsFaversham · 04/05/2024 20:43

It’s not invasive. They do it into the scruff of the neck and my cat didn’t even flinch.

The thing is, what's not invasive for a young, healthy kitten is potentially incredibly traumatic for an elderly cat that's likely suffering from pain and senility/dementia.

Geriatriccatowner · 05/05/2024 08:29

Thanks for your replies. A lot of common sense

My cat is not insured and hasn’t been since she was 2. I was paying quite a lot in pet insurance and when my cat had an accident in the house the insurance wouldn’t pay out, I had to find a couple of thousand for an operation. Since then Icancelled insurance and put money aside instead. So I won’t need her microchipped for insurance purposes.

When we go on holiday a family member feeds and looks after our cat. I don’t use catteries.

will enquire about cost of microchipping, I honestly doubt she is going to go wandering, when she did used to go outside she stayed in my garden and was itching to get back in almost immediately, or asleep on a garden chair.

im wondering how fines will be issued for cats without chips

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crumbledog · 04/05/2024 21:44

WalkingonWheels · 04/05/2024 20:18

The amount of dogs that go missing round here is unreal. They picked up by people/vets/rescues who can't find their owners because they aren't chipped. There are never any repercussions and all dogs have to be chipped now.

I have four cats. Two of mine were chipped as they used to go out. My other two are house cats and aren't chipped. I see no need for it - they don't go out. They're also thick as mince so wouldn't escape.

People who have animals who don't give a shit about them (and there are lots) are definitely not going to be chipping their cats.

9 times out of 10 it will be because the owner doesn’t want to be found. When my chipped cat went missing I still phoned around all the local vets and posted on various social media sites, even if she didn’t have a chip I would have found her that way, not just waited for someone to scan her and phone me.

Toddlerteaplease · 04/05/2024 21:31

I can't understand why you've never had it done before!

NotJohnMajor · 04/05/2024 21:19

Kelly51 · 04/05/2024 18:59

With dogs, the vet would scan for a microchip at routine appointments, to check for compliance
utter nonsense, i've never had a vet scan for a chip, I've had many dogs and lots of fosters too.

My dog was scanned every year at the vets after the rules came in.

catsnore · 04/05/2024 21:17

YourWinter · 04/05/2024 14:58

We’ve had two very ordinary tabby moggies simply go missing (years ago, and about a year apart), both were microchipped. Healthy neutered young adults, one male, one female, no reason to think the cat seen in the garden at 5pm would never be seen again. Stolen? That tends to be particularly pretty or valuable pure breeds? Hit on the road? Perhaps, but no sign of an injured or dead cat for 2 miles in either direction - and obviously not taken to a vet, as both were chipped. Very rural location so not moved in with neighbours. Whatever happened to them will always be a sad and unexplained mystery, but microchipping certainly didn’t help them.

DEFRA are just on another one of their stupid missions and I doubt a single cat will benefit from another ridiculous law. Do they actually realise how many feral cats there are? Let’s start microchipping pet rabbits, just in case. And babies, why not? Solve all those missing person problems, no?

Most sensible answer so far!

Defra are on a mission to register cats (and chickens) it would seem.

Feral cats are not included in the legislation.

Apparently vets only have a local database and there is no national database that records microchips so it seems a bit pointless to me. Your cat could jump in a van and get driven 50 miles and taken to a vet there. The microchip would tell vets at the other end diddly squat other than that the cat has a microchip.

It's all very bizarre. Why this need to control and register everything?

You can be sure the answer is either money or disease control. Either microchip companies are making a fortune or the government are anticipating some sort of cat Covid.

Either way, I won't be microchipping my elderly cat!

HaggisHhahaha · 04/05/2024 20:59

The vet always scan their chip every visit even though it’s the same practice and one is 12 and the other 8 🤷🏻‍♀️

Lovelyview · 04/05/2024 20:58

The new law says you will have 21 days to microchip your pet (presumably after a vet discovers it doesn't have one) before you face a fine. I think you should get your cat microchipped at the next regular vet appointment op.

Ponderingwindow · 04/05/2024 20:56

You have to make a decision about how close your cat is to the end of life. I had a cat who made it to nearly 25. That sort of longevity is extremely rare though so it’s unlikely you would no compliant with the law for so long.

you should know that the procedure is actually very quick and simple. It’s just a shot at this point. If it’s done at the vet it can be very expensive, but our cats have always been chipped at mass events sponsored by rescues. The price drops considerably that way.

LuluBlakey1 · 04/05/2024 20:48

Ours are chipped and have been since they were kittens. I would not have an 18 year old house at chipped. I think it's unnecessary and at that age probably quite a trauma.

MsFaversham · 04/05/2024 20:43

It’s not invasive. They do it into the scruff of the neck and my cat didn’t even flinch.

Otterock · 04/05/2024 20:36

I work at a vets. The amount of deceased non chipped or non up to date chip cats we get bought in that never have an owner come forward is heartbreaking. For the sake of a simple one off procedure that takes seconds I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t. It’s that peace of mind if she ever were to get out. I’ve seen pets reunited with owners in less than half an hour thanks to up to date chips. So many more unclaimed deceased cats that end up getting sent off for cremation however

We also get a lot of sick/injured strays with no chip so it creates a stressful grey area of how much can we do when there’s no one to pick up the bill. It often ends up falling on a generous rescue if we find one. We’ve also had issues of people handing in injured strays with no chips (happens with dogs still too) waiting for us to treat them and then wanting to claim them once they’re better.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 04/05/2024 20:27

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 04/05/2024 18:39

I honestly don’t understand the mentality of people that don’t chip their animals, its the responsible thing to do, and honestly why wouldn’t you want to ensure they were returned if they ever got lost / loose, or want to be contactable if your animal is found in need of medical attention, it happens all the time. Its not like its even expensive.

If I had a pound for every missing / found cat that wasn’t chipped because ‘it doesn’t go out’ I’d be rich. They never go out until they do!

It is far from an invasive procedure, its essentially a quick injection, its the size of a grain of rice. I even had my little rabbits chipped.

YABU not to have had it done years ago!

Having worked in a vets its so frustrating having stray animals brought in and having no way to locate the owners especially if they need medical attention. Its also time consuming having to sort a kennel, take photos, put out a post on social media which you have to keep checking, hold and care for the animal for seven days in the hope someone recognises it from a shared facebook post, if not having to try and find it a home or otherwise ringing around countless rescues trying to find somewhere with space to take it and freeing up staff to get it there. All when a simple phone call could have sufficed and had it home the same day. Or not being able to let those owners of deceased animals know they are there giving them a chance to say goodbye, or pick them up for burial etc. All for the sake of a £10 2 second jab!

I’m glad it has been made a legal requirement however like most things it’ll only be the responsible law abiding folk that actually comply so if dogs are anything to go by there will still be thousands years on that are not chipped and I haven’t heard of anyone ever actually getting fined for it yet because its so hard to enforce, so I guess you could take your chances if you really wanted to. Vets are required to inform you of your legal duty but they have no powers of enforcement.

Exactly this

WalkingonWheels · 04/05/2024 20:18

The amount of dogs that go missing round here is unreal. They picked up by people/vets/rescues who can't find their owners because they aren't chipped. There are never any repercussions and all dogs have to be chipped now.

I have four cats. Two of mine were chipped as they used to go out. My other two are house cats and aren't chipped. I see no need for it - they don't go out. They're also thick as mince so wouldn't escape.

People who have animals who don't give a shit about them (and there are lots) are definitely not going to be chipping their cats.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 04/05/2024 20:17

At that age, being an indoor cat I would hope a vet would use common sense.

crumbledog · 04/05/2024 20:14

It good to get the chip regularly scanned by the vet, to make sure it’s not migrated, but I’ve never had a vet do it without asking.

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