Rob Lomas burgled farmer fundraiser

How did I miss this gem 😂

Given that you are quoting a post that was quoting me, it looks very much like I am the person who this is supposed to describe.

I don't support the robbers, nor do I subscribe to the notion that all property is theft. I am very surprised at how well-liked the deceased appears to be - it's definitely at odds with his actions.

I am of the opinion shared by others that not enough information is in the public domain at this stage to know whether or not the farmer was justified, but I can understand why he was prepared for then coming given he was apparently also burgled the night before.

Oh no @Pleasestopkickingme your argument is amazing.

@DoreenonTill8 I didn't think I'd have to actually break it down into tiny little chunks because it's hardly rocket science... and actually, I'm not going to because I can't be arsed.

How are they 'playing Devils Advocate' to state the farmers a criminal drug lord?!

The poster who said weed stash was playing devil's advocate. They were pointing out that it's wise not to assume that the farmer is completely innocent until all of the facts and evidence are made public. I don't think they were suggesting the farmer was actually growing weed.

Nobody said it should specify that, or that it should be for that. It should be clear what it is for though, and the op said it was for his legal defence. I think it's only right that is made clear on this thread that the fundraiser doesn't suggest it's for that.

(And also that they are now at 4 times the initial target. Maybe people that want to help someone should start looking at less high profile fundraisers)

I didn’t realise this, I just assumed that a person would always qualify for legal aid for such serious crimes.

I quite agree with this.

Also, farming is hard work and a LOT of farmers cannot afford to employ helpers. He cannot farm his land while he is being questioned in a police interview, so will be falling short. I don't think it should specify that it is for legal fees.

I suspect it's like the pediatrician that got attacked because people are too dumb to know the difference.

There's a Rob Lomas who Is a manager at a place called Maggie's Farm in Colorado, that specialises in medical marijuana. I would be surprised if it's the same man, but some people are not clever.

How will donors feel if it turns out he shot the burglar in the back, out of a window, protecting his tractor/weed stash/car depending what account you read

I’d still donate. If the burglar hadn’t been burglaring, he wouldn’t have been shot. Bottom line.

People want their heads examining donating to that. Even the way it's worded - it says nothing about legal fees and pretty much just says 'please give us money'. The guys not even been charged yet.

It will be interesting when the full circumstances come to light. I would imagine that seeing your mate get shot would be enough to stop most in their tracks yet two were shot.

I wonder if people will be so keen to donate if it came to light that one/both was shot in the back or at the end of the drive whilst fleeing?

better to have it and not need it, rather than need it epsecially legal costs etc

@Settlement22 on this thread and the other one, there's clearly either the robbers supporters, or posters who are of the 'all property is theft, people can take what they want and their violence is fine, but anyone who disagrees or uses violence on them is wrong' belief....🙄

No. I’m saying we don’t know. Others in the area have said that rumours are being spread, potentially malicious.

We don't know.

Anyone who puts money into this, has no idea what kind of person they are supporting, or what the money will be spent on.

That’s what I’m saying. I’m sure the police are all over it, and eventually we’ll find out. Right now, we don’t know.

I didn't think there was any need for you to point out that 'it's totally fine' for people not to donate. I think it's blindingly obvious.

And as that post was specifically aimed at me, rather than 'polite and kind' it came across as patronising and supercilious. Hence my response.

@AGlinnerOfHope so you're saying you've had evidence/information that the farmer was growing drugs?!
Well am sure the police will be all over that 🙄.

This.

There really isn't enough information available publically to know whether this was justifiable self-defense or murder. I wouldn't want to contribute towards the legal costs of a murderer.

You only get free legal advice during the interview process, not when he’s charged which sadly he will be.

Does anyone know how much a legal defence costs in the UK. It would likely be upward of £80k and he won’t qualify for legal aid due to owning property. Im
happy to help. Didn’t donate much, but what I can afford. I really feel for both families, but if you break into someone’s home they should have a right to defend it!

He’ll qualify for free legal advice anyway won’t he and I thought you could choose who represented you?

I wonder if gofundme do any due diligence to make sure that money donated for a funeral is actually spent on a funeral

I saw there is also a gofundme for the funeral of the deceased suspected burglar/home invader.

It was initially set at £6k then revised to £12k. It must be an expensive funeral being planned. Almost £11k donated so far.

Honestly I’m amazed everyone is rushing to donate.

This could be spent on a family holiday or a flash car.

He killed someone in circumstances that we don’t understand or have much information about.

How will donors feel if it turns out he shot the burglar in the back, out of a window, protecting his tractor/weed stash/car depending what account you read.

If his behaviour turns out to be faultless, he won’t incur legal fees.
If his behaviour was well dodgy, he will have been given a ton of money after having shot a burglar, potentially unnecessarily.

I have no idea which way it will go. No way would I donate yet.

a) they aren't saying it's for legal fees. They are saying it's to 'support our family and my father, Rob, through this very difficult time'
b) he is being questioned. He hasn't been charged. Nobody, at this stage, knows of he will be going to court over this

And thanks, but I know it's totally fine not to donate to something where it's unclear what the funds will be used for.