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Court summons for a parking ticket - but I don't have the logbook for the car

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IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 20:53

I bought a second hand car in Jan. Sent the new keeper slip off on the way home and thought no more of it. Despite me writing to the DVLA multiple times, spending hours on the phone with them and even paying the £25 for a replacement log book, I still don't have it and as far as I can tell the car isn't in my name despite the DVLA insisting the log book has been sent out and it is!

Overstayed slightly (literally 12 mins!) in a car park in Feb - because I had an accident in store - and the previous owner is getting hounded by the parking company. She's just messaged me and said she now has a court summons for the parking ticket.

I have no idea what else to do. I feel like no one at the dvla is understanding the problem and to be honest I'm fucking scared stiff by the idea of a court summons. Never been in trouble in my life!

Will ring the DVLA again on Tue and will write to them again but what else can I do? I don't have any of the parking ticket details!

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TallulahBetty · 07/05/2024 16:17

Sounds like a scam to me! The only thing she has sent you is a blurry pic of a letter? That could be anything! Is she asking for money from you?

endofthelinefinally · 07/05/2024 16:15

Didn't refresh page so I can see the thread has moved on now. Hope you get it sorted out OP.

endofthelinefinally · 07/05/2024 16:14

If the car park is intended for use by customers of the store, they should be able to get the fine cancelled on your behalf. all they need to do is inform the parking company that the owner of the car was delayed while in the store.

AlisonDonut · 07/05/2024 16:12

IroningThrone · 07/05/2024 14:52

She hasn't fucking inform the DVLA that she sold the car.

Just found out and I'm incredibly annoyed with her for lying to me this entire time! She's now also telling a friend everything because apparently she "can't get in contact with me" which is a lie because none of my details have changed.

I feel like blocking her and just letting her get on with it.

I think this is what they call 'Fucking Around and Finding Out'.

BrightLightTonight · 07/05/2024 16:01

The previous owner needs to declare that they sold the car prior to this parking ticket, and show proof. Then the parking company should contact you and ask you to pay the fine.

GinandGingerBeer · 07/05/2024 15:51

It won't have gone to court yet. I doubt she's had a letter before claim already

It's in her name.
Leave her to it.
If it comes your way- join the FB group "challenge your private parking ticket"
Don't contact the company or accept any kind of liability (or name yourself as the driver-)
There are only certain technicalities that will get it quashed. It depends if they have followed correct process etc. your reason no matter how valid won't be accepted.

Choux · 07/05/2024 15:05

So she didn't tell them that she sold the car and now SHE has a court summons for a parking ticket on the car she is legally still responsible for. Keep out of that part of it.

But does the car have tax and MOT? You can check on the DVLA site. If it doesn't then you can't legally drive it until both are resolved. You can obviously MOT it if needed but if the tax has run out and you aren't the legal owner then I don't think you can tax it.

IroningThrone · 07/05/2024 14:52

She hasn't fucking inform the DVLA that she sold the car.

Just found out and I'm incredibly annoyed with her for lying to me this entire time! She's now also telling a friend everything because apparently she "can't get in contact with me" which is a lie because none of my details have changed.

I feel like blocking her and just letting her get on with it.

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IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 23:36

It's a private company car park. Will contact the shop and see if they can do anything!

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IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 23:33

I did send the new keeper slip off because that's what I thought I had to do. She had informed the DVLA but I've had nothing - I've written to them and rang them and I'm just going around in circles.

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AnitaLoos · 03/05/2024 22:51

Is she trying to scam you? If not, it’s all her responsibility anyway.

Towerofsong · 03/05/2024 22:48

It's the sellers job to fill in the V5 and send it off, or else to do the notification online using the full V5 ref number.

The new owner gets the little New Keeper slip, this is evidence of ownership to tide them over until the full V5 arrives.

Your post sounds like you got your new keeper slip and then posted it to DVLA?

And that previous owner has not notified DVLA of the sale?

BettyStogs · 03/05/2024 22:47

Is it a private ticket or council ticket?

benefitstaxcredithelp · 03/05/2024 22:46

Was the incident on a supermarket car park or equivalent? Is it a private parking (scumbag) company? I’d bet it is with those threatening letters 😖

If so another thing you can do is write to the supermarket/shop’s head office and explain the situation, give the car registration and your letter proving urgent care needed and ask them to cancel the fine (I have done this and it worked). You need to be very clear about the accident you had as to why you went 12 minutes over the time & say you believe the fine to be unfair and disproportionate to the ‘crime’. Directly request they ask for it to be cancelled.

Regardless of who the vehicle is registered to you can get the fine cancelled this way and hopefully put an end to letters going out. Obviously you do still need to get the dvla thing sorted but for now I’d do both.

AlisonDonut · 03/05/2024 22:35

What are the chances that both her and your notification didn't get to the DVLA?

That seems odd.

IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 22:32

Thanks for all the advice - I feel genuinely sick over the whole thing.

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RubberyChicken · 03/05/2024 21:34

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 21:29

This just isn’t true anymore.

You can't ignore them anymore, but you usually win, I have very recently, and plenty of other examples online

Helplessandheartbroke · 03/05/2024 21:34

I've sent you a pm op

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 21:29

RubberyChicken · 03/05/2024 21:21

If it's a private parking company invoice I wouldn't pay it anyway, they are scum. If you appeal you'll probably lose, they then try to take you to court but if you put in a defence they'll 99% of the time drop it, they only go after low hanging fruit.

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This just isn’t true anymore.

RubberyChicken · 03/05/2024 21:21

If it's a private parking company invoice I wouldn't pay it anyway, they are scum. If you appeal you'll probably lose, they then try to take you to court but if you put in a defence they'll 99% of the time drop it, they only go after low hanging fruit.

PrincessTeaSet · 03/05/2024 21:16

The court summons is for her not you - it's not your parking ticket not your problem. Do you have evidence of all the times you tried to sort it with DVLA? Emails? I don't see how you can get in any trouble about the parking in any case. It's up to the previous owner to sort this out.

Radicat · 03/05/2024 21:14

It’s vanishingly unlikely she has actually had a court summons already for a parking event that took place in February. It just takes longer than that

CanUNotTry · 03/05/2024 21:09

It's down to the seller to inform DVLA - she could have done it online the very day you purchased the car.

Also, she should have written back to the parking company saying she wasn't driving the car at the time and passed your details onto them - the parking company won't speak to you unless she has given them your details which they would have then sent you the invoice for the "fine" she obviously hasn't done that and that's why they are continuing to chase her as she still is / was the registered keeper at the time of the incident

If it's a private company then when she goes to court over it the judge will want to see proof of her informing dvla she was no longer the registered keeper / proof that she has told the company she wasn't driving the car at the time

RubberyChicken · 03/05/2024 21:09

IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 21:03

Huh that I didn't know! Its only the second car I have bought and the first was from a dealership who dealt with all the paperwork very efficiently!

Thank you - will ask her if she informed them!

It used to be the other way round many years ago, but changed it to stop this sort of thing as people sold their car and ended up getting tickets as the new owner didn't inform dvla. At the time the parking ticket was issued she was the registered keeper. Technical its hers

IroningThrone · 03/05/2024 21:08

RandomMess · 03/05/2024 21:06

Also most parking fine places have the option to notify them that you weren't driving the car and to provide the details of the person who was. You can then appeal the ticket.

She's done this apparently but they're still chasing her!

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