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Teachers, teaching assistants, pastoral, etc, school work colleagues

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ton181 · 03/05/2024 16:49

AIBU for being a little peeved.............

I started work at a school about 6 months ago, on the school site support team (care taker / handy person type role).

I walk round everyday and say hi etc. to every adult that works there, and around only 5% acknowledge me; the rest totally blank me. Thats teachers, teaching assistants, pastoral, etc. After I have walked past them and they have ignored me, I can hear them say hi to a teacher behind me. For clarity, the office and kitchen staff do say hi.

I just think thats so rude; do they think they are better than me and my long standing colleagues, as they ignore them too???? My previous job titles have included Operations Manager and Office Manager. I'm in my latter years and wanted to get out of the office and have a more active role, hence this current job. (Alzheimers scares me, and being more active is supposed to be a good thing).

So, AIBU for being a little peeved.............

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 04/05/2024 13:47

Screamingabdabz · 03/05/2024 19:55

Ime, teachers live totally immersed in a world of yampy children and pedagogical double-dutch. They’re either in survival mode or preoccupied with marking, prepping, trying to still prove themselves Head Girl, hiding from angry/needy parents, tedious governors or Ofsted scrutiny. They often don’t know how to relate to the real world and people who say normal things like hello. It’s a step too far when they’re ’in the zone’.

It is cuntish behaviour but I wouldn’t take it personally op.

Crap

IgnoranceNotOk · 04/05/2024 13:45

YANBU - a caretaker/handyman is worth their weight in gold!
We love ours at my school and he never moans when we ask for something and is amazing!

ton181 · 03/05/2024 21:04

wonderingwhatlifemeans · 03/05/2024 19:44

It is strange because we are all part of a staff team. I stay till 6 and am usually the last one there and enjoy being distracted from my marking or planning to have a chat with whoever is still around so usually our cleaner and site manager. I only started there in September so they were an amazing support and an absolute hive of information about everyone and everything! I will so miss them when the school closes at the end of the year and we all go our separate ways. I will have to find a new school and make new relationships there.

Hi Wonderingwhatlifemeans, the best of luck to you.

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AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 03/05/2024 19:56

YANBU

People like this are unkind. I'm a teacher; I'd never talk down to anyone. Who do they think they are? It's just basic politeness. Everyone contributes to the running of a school, and makes a difference, but even if they didn't, humans are humans.

Screamingabdabz · 03/05/2024 19:55

Ime, teachers live totally immersed in a world of yampy children and pedagogical double-dutch. They’re either in survival mode or preoccupied with marking, prepping, trying to still prove themselves Head Girl, hiding from angry/needy parents, tedious governors or Ofsted scrutiny. They often don’t know how to relate to the real world and people who say normal things like hello. It’s a step too far when they’re ’in the zone’.

It is cuntish behaviour but I wouldn’t take it personally op.

wonderingwhatlifemeans · 03/05/2024 19:44

It is strange because we are all part of a staff team. I stay till 6 and am usually the last one there and enjoy being distracted from my marking or planning to have a chat with whoever is still around so usually our cleaner and site manager. I only started there in September so they were an amazing support and an absolute hive of information about everyone and everything! I will so miss them when the school closes at the end of the year and we all go our separate ways. I will have to find a new school and make new relationships there.

Notquitefinishe · 03/05/2024 19:08

People are odd. I once had a classroom next to the school kitchen and so walked past the kitchen staff every morning for about 4 years. I have a cheery good morning every morning and no joke, they ignored me every single day. I found it absolutely bizarre! Who doesn't respond good morning to someone?! A lady said 'good morning' to me at 4pm today and me and the man next to be both replied 'good morning' back, despite the fact it clearly wasn't, because that is what we're socially conditioned to do!

Pericombobulations · 03/05/2024 19:03

Sadly there are a few teaching staff at my work who dont acknowledge us support staff. I always say hello from the cleaners to the teachers. A few of the cleaners have commented how much they like cleaning my office as I am always friendly to them, whereas there some rooms that staff are not so friendly.

The teachers I work closely with are lovely though, not just because most of them know I have more qualifications than some of them.

But the ones who arent friendly, forget that the school needs the cleaners just as much as it needs the teachers. In fact the support staff outnumber the teachers, we are needed that much.

Pottedpalm · 03/05/2024 19:02

This is just mot typical of any school I have taught in.

pinotnow · 03/05/2024 18:58

Wouldn't happen in my school. Sorry it's like that where you are.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/05/2024 18:56

I always acknowledge our site and cleaning staff. I email to say thank you for clearing snow in the car park, and they repainted all the staff toilets over Easter - look a lot better - so I made a point of saying thank you for that too. But yes the hierarchy is amazing - I am fairly new to the education sector and am not very keen. I have been at my current school nearly 5 years and some teaching staff still call me Miss - because they cant be arsed to learn my name. There are only 2 Data Managers and we look nothing alike so it is not difficult to know who we are.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 03/05/2024 18:45

I always used to have a good chat with the cleaner and caretaking staff at the end of the day.
During the day though often I'd be a bit oblivious and thinking of other things.

I was about to reply saying 'That's awful, how rude!' but actually I'm the same. I chat lots with site staff and cleaners at the end of the datly, partly because I'm often the last teacher in the building. I would never ignore a hello though, however busy I am during the day!

flumposie · 03/05/2024 18:40

My main classroom is opposite the site staff office. We always say hello and have a chat. School wouldn't run without them.I used to say 'hello' to all staff members but some would just ignore me 🤷‍♀️

Wavingnotdrown1ng · 03/05/2024 18:38

That is horribly rude, disappointing behaviour and has not happened in the schools I’ve worked in snd wouldn’t be tolerated by any of the heads I’ve worked for. I’m sorry to hear that it’s happening and would advise working in a school where a more respectful ethos exists. Your skills are greatly in demand so this shouldn’t be too hard. As others have said, it also sets a terrible example to the students.

Xelda · 03/05/2024 18:38

I've worked in support roles in schools, most staff were friendly and a few were not. So rude and unnecessary. Like you I'm polite and friendly to everyone regardless of their job.
Just remember it says nothing about you and tells you everything you need to know about them!

GoBonobo · 03/05/2024 18:35

Definitely not! At our primary school we had ‘John the Jannie’ who retired after working there for 40 years (when you still got accommodation with the job!) and was universally loved by the children. His successor was less gregarious, but unfailingly polite and helpful to parents and teachers, and he became a confidant to some of the quieter kids in the school who would come and chat at his office window at break times if the playground was too noisy. Both fantastic guys and valued members of staff - as demonstrated by the support all janitors/cleaners/dinnerladies got when the LA tried to screw them over when trying to change their contracts!

ton181 · 03/05/2024 18:28

Singleandproud · 03/05/2024 17:28

I always used to have a good chat with the cleaner and caretaking staff at the end of the day.
During the day though often I'd be a bit oblivious and thinking of other things.

There is a hierarchical feel in lots of schools though particularly between TAs and teachers so imagine it's the same with other support staff, it can be between departments too with say science and maths being chummy but not with English, particularly in schools where departments don't mix much.

Hi Singleandproud, thank you for taking the time to respond. I did think this, and in reality, it could be the case in some instances - During the day though often I'd be a bit oblivious and thinking of other things.

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Gininvolved · 03/05/2024 18:26

In my experience all staff members acknowledge each other - it’s actively encouraged as it demonstrates to the children good basic social skills.

shame then into it by always giving a big breezy hello whenever you walk past them.

Soccermumamir · 03/05/2024 18:19

Yeah very rude. Everyone is included where I work.

ton181 · 03/05/2024 18:17

InsolentNoise · 03/05/2024 16:53

YADNBU
They are being cunts.
I’m friendly and chatty to everyone in school.

Hi InsolentNoise, this really made me LOL

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ton181 · 03/05/2024 18:17

Saucery · 03/05/2024 16:55

Bit rude. Still, you’ll know who to prioritise when people need a display board straightening/new shelves put up in the library/ that weird low level smell of drains haunting the corridor outside Class 2…… Wink
Have you been introduced to the staff, either in person, or via the Newsletter?

Hi Saucery, yes I was introduced to them during their staff briefing and in their newsletter, I have also attended the numerous staff briefings every week since then. They know who I am, I've helped several with issues they have raised e.g. shelves, notice boards, radiators etc. etc. etc. the list goes on.

Thanks for all the supportive comments : )

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FeistyFrankie · 03/05/2024 17:31

Appallingly rude and there’s absolutely no excuse for it!! This gives me so much rage. What example are these teachers setting, behaving so rudely?

I always greet the support staff at my school, smile and thank them/wish them a good day etc. I’m a teacher btw!

Manners cost nothing.

Singleandproud · 03/05/2024 17:28

I always used to have a good chat with the cleaner and caretaking staff at the end of the day.
During the day though often I'd be a bit oblivious and thinking of other things.

There is a hierarchical feel in lots of schools though particularly between TAs and teachers so imagine it's the same with other support staff, it can be between departments too with say science and maths being chummy but not with English, particularly in schools where departments don't mix much.

Anneta · 03/05/2024 17:26

YANBU! They are being so rude.
I worked in primary schools for 22 years. I was on good terms with the caretaker, office team, cleaners, classroom, kitchen and playground assistants. The only difficult members of staff in one school were the head and the deputy head. 😩

PollyannaWhittier · 03/05/2024 17:21

YANBU, do they not realise the caretaker is the number one person to keep on the good side of ?! (Along with the cleaners, the canteen staff and the cover manager Grin)