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To be completely shocked about someone I used to know

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EWAB · 03/05/2024 10:21

When my youngest was at primary school I really liked this woman who had kids either side of mine.

She was in the PTA equivalent and was just a nice woman. There was no drama around her.

I remember having a day off and went into the local cafe, and she invited me to sit with her friends. She was funny, warm and witty.

Significantly, she had friends of all ethnicities and her best friend was Asian.

Everybody will relate to being busy but I think if it was a different time in my life or we had kids in same year we would have been mates.

I am absolutely shocked that she is a member of a right wing political party and has a presence in that party, utterly and completely shocked.

I know it’s not illegal but God.

All three of my siblings are Tories, I’m not someone who thinks everyone has to think like me but I am stunned.

Mumsnet hates this, but I have had a physical reaction to the news. I am just Gobsmacked and weirdly let down and I do know that’s a stupid, irrational thing to say.

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pikkumyy77 · 03/05/2024 21:56

This thread is hysterical! Do posters not know that there is such a thing as fascism? Not as an insult but as an actually political system with specific forms and policy goals? Do you not remember Oswald Mosely, if you can’t remember Mussolini and Hitler?

Equally: there are political groups on both ends of the spectrum with goals to overcome and eliminate democracy and the rights that democracies generally require for citizens such as free speech, freedom of association, rights for children, women, minorities, and the right to vote itself?

In a functioning democracy with two or more parties that are oriented around democratic principles party membership may be understood as somewhat anodyne, like one’s choice of sports team or favorite food.

But outlier parties, parties of the far left or far right, generally have the goal of using democracy and the vote to get into power and then to change the rules so that their enemies ( however defined) can no longer compete successfully, share power, join in the government, or protect their citizen/members. So yes, as I pointed out upthread, there are parties whose goal it is to replace democracy eith fascism.

In the US the far right fringe outside and of the Republican party explicitly calls for shrinking the power of the electorate by eliminating problematic voters (women, minorities, non property owners, naturalized immigrants and the children of immigrants). They EXPLICITLY call for an end to democracy in the form of one person one vote.

Parties have platforms and policies that they strive to put into play. Government levies taxes, disburses taxes, wages war and protects or doesn’t protect citizens. These all result in choices and policies with enormous impact and therfore moral significance. The choice of which party to belong to is a moral choice.

You bet I judge someone who belongs to a party that is racist, corrupt, fascist, jingoistic, war mongering, or authoritarian. I would judge some nice lady on the PTA if she were voting for the cannabalism party too. I would kind of have to assume she wants to legalize cannibalism and potentially eat me, wouldn’t I?

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:54

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:50

I fot u didn't like emoji s

😂

The hypocrisy is breathtaking isn't it?

That poster is trying to make light of the situation now, because they know they lost the argument, and they're embarrassed. Grin

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:54

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:50

I fot u didn't like emoji s

I fot I did bot nither

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:50

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:48

😀😃😛🤐

I fot u didn't like emoji s

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:49

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:47

Careful

Bad spellin their

U wotch that grammer!

Grin
SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:48

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:47

Careful

Bad spellin their

Sent from mi ihpne Grin .

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:48

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:44

Yep! Ta for the compliment xxxx

😀😃😛🤐

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:47

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:45

😂😁 (Four kissez two.) ! '. Smile ,

Careful

Bad spellin their

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 21:47

blablasmthsmth · 03/05/2024 19:02

Aaaaannd Hitler has entered the chat. It was only a matter of time.

😂

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:45

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:44

Yep! Ta for the compliment xxxx

😂😁 (Four kissez two.) ! '. Smile ,

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:44

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:42

Whereas that, of course, is a complete zinger.

Yep! Ta for the compliment xxxx

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:43

Sparrowonablinddate · 03/05/2024 21:42

u wot m8

😂 (Funny!) . Grin

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:42

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:31

Oooof.

Crap comeback

Whereas that, of course, is a complete zinger.

Sparrowonablinddate · 03/05/2024 21:42

u wot m8

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:42

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:31

Oooof.

Crap comeback

Yes it was. It's a sign that someone is losing the argument, when they resort to personal insults (attacking a poster's grammar.) Nothing else to say? Let's have a dig at their grammar and spelling. Terrible forum etiquette, and against the rules on here. (In case anyone else is thinking of carrying on attacking the spelling and grammar of anyone.)

(My 'bad grammar' was having ONE full stop outside a bracket by the way!) 😆

!

Serengetti56 · 03/05/2024 21:37

Otherstories2002 · 03/05/2024 17:35

She is literally the person she is. That you knew.

your issue here is that you’re judgemental attitude has been challenged. Be more open minded.

The OP still knows everything she used to know, but now there is an extra piece of information to flesh the picture out further, and that changes things.

Maia77 · 03/05/2024 21:36

belovedandpureones · 03/05/2024 21:11

Ditto! Off you pop

Gladly. Off to listen to Alistair Hulett...

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:35

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:28

Is that all you've got?! Bless... 😂 You know a poster has lost their (lame) argument, when they attack another poster's grammar. And it's even more hilarious when there was nothing wrong with that person's grammar anyway. You're reaching so far that you have your hands in the clouds.

Oh, by the way... YOU LOST the Brexit vote! Get over it. Grin

(Hope you're enjoying my emojis!) 😍

Have a Gin and chill out. 😏

If you can’t see what is wrong with the random punctuation, (a full stop should be outside a bracket for example), and hurl abuse at people who can, then that says it all about the intellectual heft of the leave campaign.

Oneofthesurvivors · 03/05/2024 21:34

watermelonsugar56 · 03/05/2024 19:23

I thought she was going to be a paedophile or something. Nice to know you’re not judging people for their political views 🙄

There is not actually anything wrong with judging people for their political views.

PriscillaPresssley · 03/05/2024 21:31

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:20

Always good to see Leave arguments made with such poor grammar and emojis for extra intellectual oomph.

Oooof.

Crap comeback

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:29

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:20

Always good to see Leave arguments made with such poor grammar and emojis for extra intellectual oomph.

Is that all you've got?! Bless... 😂 You know a poster has lost their (lame) argument, when they attack another poster's grammar. And it's even more hilarious when there was nothing wrong with that person's grammar anyway. You're reaching so far that you have your hands in the clouds.

Oh, by the way... YOU LOST the Brexit vote! Get over it.

(Hope you're enjoying my emojis!) 😍

Have a Gin and chill out. 😏

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:28

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:20

Always good to see Leave arguments made with such poor grammar and emojis for extra intellectual oomph.

Is that all you've got?! Bless... 😂 You know a poster has lost their (lame) argument, when they attack another poster's grammar. And it's even more hilarious when there was nothing wrong with that person's grammar anyway. You're reaching so far that you have your hands in the clouds.

Oh, by the way... YOU LOST the Brexit vote! Get over it. Grin

(Hope you're enjoying my emojis!) 😍

Have a Gin and chill out. 😏

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2024 21:28

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:20

Always good to see Leave arguments made with such poor grammar and emojis for extra intellectual oomph.

😭

maryanne3 · 03/05/2024 21:20

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 21:09

Please yourself @maryanne3 . If disgruntled remainers want to wail and moan into their far left echo chamber, about LOSING the Brexit vote - (til hell freezes over,) fine by me, Smile

It's only themselves that they're making miserable and angry. They're just boring everyone else. (And making them laugh with all the spitting their dummies out, and throwing their toys out of the pram.) We've left the EU. We ain't going back. Not gonna happen. SORRY.Grin

Always good to see Leave arguments made with such poor grammar and emojis for extra intellectual oomph.

Grumpymiddleagedwoman43 · 03/05/2024 21:17

ComtesseDeSpair · 03/05/2024 10:45

Very few people support or endorse every single policy or viewpoint of the political party they choose to belong to or vote for. Most people align themselves with a handful of core important issues which they think that party has a better stance on than others. The idea that you must be a massive facist because you’re to the right of the political spectrum is just as daft as the idea that you must be a communist if you’re to the left. You’ve ultimately no idea which issues your former friend aligns herself with, and either way there’s a massive spectrum of “right.”

Wholeheartedly agree with this.