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To be completely shocked about someone I used to know

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EWAB · 03/05/2024 10:21

When my youngest was at primary school I really liked this woman who had kids either side of mine.

She was in the PTA equivalent and was just a nice woman. There was no drama around her.

I remember having a day off and went into the local cafe, and she invited me to sit with her friends. She was funny, warm and witty.

Significantly, she had friends of all ethnicities and her best friend was Asian.

Everybody will relate to being busy but I think if it was a different time in my life or we had kids in same year we would have been mates.

I am absolutely shocked that she is a member of a right wing political party and has a presence in that party, utterly and completely shocked.

I know it’s not illegal but God.

All three of my siblings are Tories, I’m not someone who thinks everyone has to think like me but I am stunned.

Mumsnet hates this, but I have had a physical reaction to the news. I am just Gobsmacked and weirdly let down and I do know that’s a stupid, irrational thing to say.

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earther · 03/05/2024 17:49

Loads of these threads keep popping up the same as benefits threads.

thirtyseven37 · 03/05/2024 17:48

MistyGreenAndBlue · 03/05/2024 10:33

Bloody hell I thought you were going to say she had defended her paedophile husband/abused and murdered her kids/ abused her elderly relative etc.
At the very least

Yes, you are being ridiculous.

This!

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 17:46

belovedandpureones · 03/05/2024 17:42

She probably had a lucky escape from being your friend tbh. I agree with another poster, the far leftare the most intolerant people ever and literally hate anybody with different views to them. You do not know this woman’s life story and have no right to tell anybody how to think or behave. Who says people with far right views are not nice people?

100% this. ^ And yes, the OP's friend has had a lucky escape!

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:45

I am wary of anyone who presents as being very right wing

May I ask what presenting as very right wing would entail?

chipsewfast · 03/05/2024 17:44

I know where you are coming from OP. It's to do with having similar values on the big issues. I am wary of anyone who presents as being very right wing

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:44

belovedandpureones · 03/05/2024 17:42

She probably had a lucky escape from being your friend tbh. I agree with another poster, the far leftare the most intolerant people ever and literally hate anybody with different views to them. You do not know this woman’s life story and have no right to tell anybody how to think or behave. Who says people with far right views are not nice people?

Absolutely agree that the Left are incredibly intolerant of other views. The vile abuse hurled by Left wing men at (often Left wing) women trying to defend their rights is something to behold.

NorfolkSwan · 03/05/2024 17:44

There is good and bad across the political spectrum. Voting Labour is certainly not a guarantee of someone being inherently good. Judge people by their actions in life and how they treat others in day to day life. Far left is as ugly, undemocratic and intolerant as far right.

SabreIsMyFave · 03/05/2024 17:44

EWAB · 03/05/2024 17:34

I Might have given the impression that I knew her less than I did, while we weren’t close friends I knew her for about six years. We volunteered over that time for our kids’ school.
I have nothing but praise for her. She never indulged in gossip and didn’t attract or cause any drama unlike a lot of others there.
Somebody asked whether I would have been shocked had she been on the far left. I probably would’ve been shocked but not as shocked. I would have imagined she was reasonably centre like me.
Anything that is not mainstream politically shocks me.
I knew I was going to get pasted on here for my visceral response and I can live with that but I couldn’t help it, I felt really ill when I realised what she is like.

Oh for goodness sake! 🙄 Really ill? A few grips are needed here!

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:42

pleasehelpwi3 · 03/05/2024 17:40

It's not Kemi Badenoch is it? Her views are vile.

In your opinion.

belovedandpureones · 03/05/2024 17:42

EWAB · 03/05/2024 10:21

When my youngest was at primary school I really liked this woman who had kids either side of mine.

She was in the PTA equivalent and was just a nice woman. There was no drama around her.

I remember having a day off and went into the local cafe, and she invited me to sit with her friends. She was funny, warm and witty.

Significantly, she had friends of all ethnicities and her best friend was Asian.

Everybody will relate to being busy but I think if it was a different time in my life or we had kids in same year we would have been mates.

I am absolutely shocked that she is a member of a right wing political party and has a presence in that party, utterly and completely shocked.

I know it’s not illegal but God.

All three of my siblings are Tories, I’m not someone who thinks everyone has to think like me but I am stunned.

Mumsnet hates this, but I have had a physical reaction to the news. I am just Gobsmacked and weirdly let down and I do know that’s a stupid, irrational thing to say.

She probably had a lucky escape from being your friend tbh. I agree with another poster, the far leftare the most intolerant people ever and literally hate anybody with different views to them. You do not know this woman’s life story and have no right to tell anybody how to think or behave. Who says people with far right views are not nice people?

WorriedMama12 · 03/05/2024 17:40

EWAB · 03/05/2024 17:34

I Might have given the impression that I knew her less than I did, while we weren’t close friends I knew her for about six years. We volunteered over that time for our kids’ school.
I have nothing but praise for her. She never indulged in gossip and didn’t attract or cause any drama unlike a lot of others there.
Somebody asked whether I would have been shocked had she been on the far left. I probably would’ve been shocked but not as shocked. I would have imagined she was reasonably centre like me.
Anything that is not mainstream politically shocks me.
I knew I was going to get pasted on here for my visceral response and I can live with that but I couldn’t help it, I felt really ill when I realised what she is like.

OP which specific policies of Reform do you think are far right?

pleasehelpwi3 · 03/05/2024 17:40

EWAB · 03/05/2024 10:21

When my youngest was at primary school I really liked this woman who had kids either side of mine.

She was in the PTA equivalent and was just a nice woman. There was no drama around her.

I remember having a day off and went into the local cafe, and she invited me to sit with her friends. She was funny, warm and witty.

Significantly, she had friends of all ethnicities and her best friend was Asian.

Everybody will relate to being busy but I think if it was a different time in my life or we had kids in same year we would have been mates.

I am absolutely shocked that she is a member of a right wing political party and has a presence in that party, utterly and completely shocked.

I know it’s not illegal but God.

All three of my siblings are Tories, I’m not someone who thinks everyone has to think like me but I am stunned.

Mumsnet hates this, but I have had a physical reaction to the news. I am just Gobsmacked and weirdly let down and I do know that’s a stupid, irrational thing to say.

It's not Kemi Badenoch is it? Her views are vile.

Sad0tter · 03/05/2024 17:39

Judgemental much? God you make it sound like she murders children or something. Get a grip.

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:37

Otherstories2002 · 03/05/2024 17:35

She is literally the person she is. That you knew.

your issue here is that you’re judgemental attitude has been challenged. Be more open minded.

Absolutely this.

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:36

I would have imagined she was reasonably centre like me
Anything that is not mainstream politically shocks me

This is lame OP.

lifeturnsonadime · 03/05/2024 17:36

Hugosmaid · 03/05/2024 17:34

I think we may have matching fascist badges …😂😂

I asked that specific poster that specific question because I am fairly certain that they think not giving males everything they want = fascism.

This bizarre labelling of everything that you disagree with as right wing / fascist etc is dangerous though.

It stops reasonable conversations from happening.

ClaudiaWankleman · 03/05/2024 17:35

InShockHusbandLeaving · 03/05/2024 17:25

I’m sorry you don’t understand simple political concepts 😢

I’m sorry you’re a conspiracy theorist with no cogency in your communication.

Otherstories2002 · 03/05/2024 17:35

EWAB · 03/05/2024 17:34

I Might have given the impression that I knew her less than I did, while we weren’t close friends I knew her for about six years. We volunteered over that time for our kids’ school.
I have nothing but praise for her. She never indulged in gossip and didn’t attract or cause any drama unlike a lot of others there.
Somebody asked whether I would have been shocked had she been on the far left. I probably would’ve been shocked but not as shocked. I would have imagined she was reasonably centre like me.
Anything that is not mainstream politically shocks me.
I knew I was going to get pasted on here for my visceral response and I can live with that but I couldn’t help it, I felt really ill when I realised what she is like.

She is literally the person she is. That you knew.

your issue here is that you’re judgemental attitude has been challenged. Be more open minded.

Abstractthinking · 03/05/2024 17:35

This is interesting. I have have conflicted emotions about. If I don't like someone and I find out that they vote conservative, i think "tory twat" and add it to the list. If I like them, i think "they're a mate - what you gonna do" pataphrasing renton about begby.

lifeturnsonadime · 03/05/2024 17:34

I think Keir Starmer is a genuinely decent man who's not corrupted by greed and power. But I do think he's not been strong enough to stand up to some of the bonkers demands of those on the further left of the party. He's too worried about keeping all elements of the party happy to stay true to what he actually believes.

@SpidersAreShitheads

If he's not strong enough on this then how can he be trusted on anything else to do with running the country?

Hugosmaid · 03/05/2024 17:34

Otterly2 · 03/05/2024 17:21

I have been called a fascist for knowing that women don't have penises.

I think we may have matching fascist badges …😂😂

EWAB · 03/05/2024 17:34

I Might have given the impression that I knew her less than I did, while we weren’t close friends I knew her for about six years. We volunteered over that time for our kids’ school.
I have nothing but praise for her. She never indulged in gossip and didn’t attract or cause any drama unlike a lot of others there.
Somebody asked whether I would have been shocked had she been on the far left. I probably would’ve been shocked but not as shocked. I would have imagined she was reasonably centre like me.
Anything that is not mainstream politically shocks me.
I knew I was going to get pasted on here for my visceral response and I can live with that but I couldn’t help it, I felt really ill when I realised what she is like.

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SlightlyJaded · 03/05/2024 17:28

@SpidersAreShitheads and @lifeturnsonadime I agree with pretty much everything you both just said.and stand exactly where you are vote-wise.

It's not hard to see how someone who was uncertain and lost could vote for something because they seem a 'bit like' something they usually vote for but can't bring themselves to this time...

WinterDeWinter · 03/05/2024 17:27

lifeturnsonadime · 03/05/2024 16:37

I don't blame any woman actively voting to keep the Labour Party out of government in the hope that women's single sex spaces won't be lost. And in the hope that children won't continue to be medically harmed for a belief that they have been born wrong.

We are not obliged to vote for a party that doesn't recognise women as fully human. If the leader of the Labour Party can say that some women have penises then it means that he doesn't recognise us as distinct from males.

There is no compassion in a party that is prepared to treat 51% of the population in this way. Certainly no compassion for the most vulnerable women who will be harmed as a result of putting the wishes of males above the needs of females.

it is not for me to judge how anyone decides to vote.

I remain undecided. If Labour grow a back bone and stop bowing down to the trans activists then I might be able to vote for them.

I don't think you've understood my point.
I certainly wasn't arguing that you're obliged to vote Labour when they have shown that they do not value women. However, withholding your vote is one thing - actively voting for 'the other side' is quite another.

TextureSeeker · 03/05/2024 17:26

My dds boyfriends dad is a founding member of a far right political party in my country. I don't think he is a bad person per se, I think he is a bit dim and went down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole. His party is never going to get anywhere anyway so it's just a bunch of eejits who meet up to yap conspiracy bollocks at each other really.