To be completely shocked about someone I used to know

If disgruntled remainers want to wail and moan into their far left echo chamber

You do know plenty of Tories voted Remain? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we moved closer to the EU incrementally until we’re effectively back in. Brexit is the biggest example of national self harm imaginable.

Ditto! Off you pop

Well, unless people vote for something better, it's going to be more of this and I don't see many benefiting from the current state of things. People have the power to change things, that's democracy.

Please yourself @maryanne3 . If disgruntled remainers want to wail and moan into their far left echo chamber, about LOSING the Brexit vote - (til hell freezes over,) fine by me,

It's only themselves that they're making miserable and angry. They're just boring everyone else. (And making them laugh with all the spitting their dummies out, and throwing their toys out of the pram.) We've left the EU. We ain't going back. Not gonna happen. SORRY.

Think about what you have written..,

I have a friend who is decent and kind. He is very concerned that ordinary people are being betrayed by those in power, and is a firm believer in the freedom and rights of every working man/woman.
Guess which party he votes for?

You seem to imply that a minority that claims benefits fraudulently is a bigger threat to this country than grand corruption.
I really don't need your respect, so we're fine there.

@pugwash4x4
have these three countries you named swapped continents ? Genuine question.

😂

A big part of the reason people are broke is because of house/rent prices because of supply and demand of the sheer amount of people moving here. But oh no the woman described in the op is evil for wanting to vote a party that says it'll cut down immigration 🤔

The Brexit/xenophobia thing always makes me laugh.

We were part of a big club that specifically and continuously excluded countries that were non white and actively prejudiced people of colour from those countries. We left that club so now we can invite people of any colour and creed from any country.

Somehow Brexit is racist but the EU isn't?

When the EU admits Morocco/Tunisia/Algeria etc then I'll consider that it may not be institutionally racist, until then......

Oh right. OK. Ultra wealthy can afford to pay those taxes.
Btw LSE interviewed the riches 1% and none said they would leave UK for tax reasons.
Brain drain is happening already - many doctors are leaving UK because of poor working condition and pay.

You know what..I never looked at reform.

I just read the policies and actually they stand for good things. (Thanks OP)

Why is there hate on them?

disclaimer I know bugger all about politics

i noticed that too.

Dont worry, I am never as angry as a leftie 🤢

It’s really not shocking that what seem to be nice intelligent people hold right wing vows

I know a number of passionate remainers who loved to voice their opinions about all leave voters being nasty racists who are now complaining that now we are out of the EU we have the wrong type of immigrants who don’t share our values 😬 now where have I heard that before

God help us when you are angry.

And you keep taxing the wealthy and what happens? You get a brain drain. You end up with LESS taxes.

And FWIW I am not angry, just totally fed up with the views of entitled, self-righteous, inward looking lefties

And there it is 🤣 I have no time for people that spout this crap as some kind of justification! Who said I agreed with this? Where have I said anything that isn’t true? Anyone that spouts loony left rhetoric does not have my respect, period

I'm surprised to see so many posters being so blasé about politics at the time when the NHS is falling apart, energy prices have skyrocketed, people on 'decent' salary have to claim UC to make ends meet, people with mental health issues are being told to toughen up and so on....

I'm persuaded. We should disenfranchise anyone that doesn't have the correct political views, for the greater good.

It's falling apart because it has been deliberately underfunded.
A 2% wealth tax on assets over £10m could raise £22bn. Reforming non-dom status rules could raise £3.2bn a year and so on....

I had to look up Reform UK’s policies to see which of them was particularly vile and sick-making. These are their key ones:
Lower taxes
Net zero immigration
Zero waiting lists
Cheaper energy

Which one causes you the most upset? Let me guess, it’s point 2 isn’t it? I think you’ll find however that lower or net zero immigration is popular with a large sector of the population, even (or especially with) traditional Labour voters in certain parts of the country.

Don’t think we want to be ‘open minded’ to xenophobia thanks.

So the EU had 41years to address the concerns of the British public and didn't? The British public gave the EU 41 years before saying enough? And the issue isn't "whinging", the issue is remainers don't seem to be able to whinge without ABUSING leavers. Accusing them of bigotry, ignorance, stupidity, racism, calling them gammon and god knows what else.

But leavers insult Remainers all the time. They call them everything under the sun!