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Its a fence one .

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pavillion1 · 03/05/2024 08:00

We are having our garden landscaped the fence between our neighbours and ours was falling apart so even though it is actually neighbours fence we let them know that we are willing to replace . They said fine but can we make sure its like for like we said yes no problem.

I admit i didn't specify to our landscaper the fence had to be exactly the same i just said same height and we have chosen to replace the wooden post with concrete.
This hasnt come cheap . Upshot is the neighbours have gone mad about the new fence and demanded they at least get the better side of the fence which we have agreed to but im now feeling abit hard done by as yes ok its not exactly the same fence panel but it is a. stronger panel with concrete foundations .

OP posts:
Hihellogoodbye · 08/05/2024 20:52

after reading this thread I’m shocked that people are so petty to care about which way the slats of a fence are positioned. God please just take a chill pill ….they got a brand new fence for which they didn’t have to pay a penny. I’d be very grateful if I was them.
anyway I think some people have too much time on their hands to look at such petty things. Also your neighbours sound pretty weird OP

OldPerson · 08/05/2024 20:24

Oh dear. You've learned the importance of having everything in writing when it comes to agreements and getting sign off.

Especially when it comes to your neighbours.

The second biggest mistake is falling out with your neighbours.

When you agreed "like for like" - I'm assuming the better side of the fence was on their side?

When you agreed "like for like" - You forgot to mention you'd be installing concrete instead of wooden fence posts - you know the environmentally toxic substance that also not so great for humans.

If you agreed "like for like", you need to switch the panels around. Then I'd probably talk to the landscape gardener and grow some pretty vine plants up your side of the fence.

The third problem you've not yet forseen is who maintains the fence from this point forward? I'd get that in writing before you switch any fence panels around.

We also paid 50% to replace our neighbour's back fence. Mainly because our dogs (ours much larger) kept jumping up to see each other and damaging the fence and flowerbeds. We thought a slightly higher fence would solve the problem. It did. But we got a fencing contractor quote. We agreed on fence panels and posts and price and we also put it in writing, that as much as we're financially contributing to the fence, we accept no responsibility for its onwards maintenance.

Next time state your wants clearly - "We want a more attractive fence boundary for our garden. This is what we propose. This is the quote from a professional contractor for a professional job. However, we want the best side of the fence to face us. If you agree, we'll pay for the entire fence, and install concrete posts, which makes it far cheaper to maintain/replace the fence, but moving forwards, you'll be responsible for the maintainance of the fence."

SoupDragon · 08/05/2024 20:09

onedogatoddlerandababy · 08/05/2024 19:37

Can’t you just buy the super cheap traditional lap style panels they had before and get your builders/fencers to screw them to the posts/bars on their side. Surely that’s the easiest solution? B&Q sells them for £32 each

Not as easy as moving the "wrong" panels out and slotting the equivalent of the old ones in.

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 20:05

onedogatoddlerandababy · 08/05/2024 19:37

Can’t you just buy the super cheap traditional lap style panels they had before and get your builders/fencers to screw them to the posts/bars on their side. Surely that’s the easiest solution? B&Q sells them for £32 each

im not sure they would like that at all .

OP posts:
onedogatoddlerandababy · 08/05/2024 19:37

Can’t you just buy the super cheap traditional lap style panels they had before and get your builders/fencers to screw them to the posts/bars on their side. Surely that’s the easiest solution? B&Q sells them for £32 each

SavingTheBestTillLast · 08/05/2024 19:25

emsie85 · 08/05/2024 19:14

As it’s supposed to be their fence, tell them they are more than welcome to replace it with something they like?
That will soon shut them up

Or maybe it won’t.
Especially if they ask for their fence to be put back,

emsie85 · 08/05/2024 19:14

As it’s supposed to be their fence, tell them they are more than welcome to replace it with something they like?
That will soon shut them up

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 14:21

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 09:30

OP should have put the fence up on her side if she didn’t like their existing fence.

Ain't that the truth

But they won’t 💯🙂

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 12:45

SaltySeaAir · 08/05/2024 12:37

People are weird. Having just shelled out 4k for a new fence I would have loved for my neighbour to do it for us!

Even if you didn't want a new fence to begin with and they'd totally ignored the agreement you had to go for a certain design and style?

I actually find it hard to believe that so many people would be this accepting in real life, I have to say.

Blondebrunette1 · 08/05/2024 12:40

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:41

Permission was sought to remove the fence (destroy is a strong word), the neighbours should give their heads a wobble, they’ve been gifted a brand new, decent looking fence for free. Personally I don’t think they have a right to be so pedantic 🙄

They're not being difficult though, they've not demanded it be changed they've just said they aren't happy it's not the fence they agreed to however as it's done now they would like the nice side facing them, this is a fair ask given the fence they had didn't show the supporting beams on their side and they weren't up for a replacement they agreed because the op wanted to do it. I personally wouldn't ask for the nice side, I'd get someone to fit my own the otherside but I can afford to and would spend on my garden, if they can't and wouldn't why should they have to?! I don't think op is malicious or completely outrageous feeling a bit rubbish about having the cr*ppy side but you can't say it's not fair or they're being ungrateful.

SaltySeaAir · 08/05/2024 12:37

People are weird. Having just shelled out 4k for a new fence I would have loved for my neighbour to do it for us!

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 12:37

@Northernladdette OP didn't have to destroy the existing fence or pay to replace it though 🙄

She should have built her own fence on her own property 🤷‍♀️

Nanny0gg · 08/05/2024 12:37

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:41

Permission was sought to remove the fence (destroy is a strong word), the neighbours should give their heads a wobble, they’ve been gifted a brand new, decent looking fence for free. Personally I don’t think they have a right to be so pedantic 🙄

I don't care how 'free' something is

If my property has been replaced with something I didn't want and didn't ask for then you can bet I'd be properly pissed off about it.

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 12:36

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 12:22

@Northernladdette the neighbours agreed as long as the replacement was like for like which OP didn't bother to make sure was the case.

It's not being pedantic to want your own property to look a certain way 🙄

I think it is when you’re actually not paying 🙄

Amx · 08/05/2024 12:34

I much prefer horizontal on a fence tbh. Looks weird not matching

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 12:34

focacciamuffin · 08/05/2024 09:22

Years ago it was courtesy that you gave your neighbour the good side. In law this ins’t the case at all 🙄

Years ago, people were happy with low fences so it wasn’t such an issue.

Not really a relevant point in this discussion!

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 12:22

@Northernladdette the neighbours agreed as long as the replacement was like for like which OP didn't bother to make sure was the case.

It's not being pedantic to want your own property to look a certain way 🙄

MILLYmo0se · 08/05/2024 11:59

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 09:30

OP should have put the fence up on her side if she didn’t like their existing fence.

Ain't that the truth

So in the original fence, was the 'nice' flat side facing into your garden or the neighbours garden?

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:41

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 11:33

If someone destroyed your property and replaced it with something you didn’t like and hadn’t asked for, would you be grateful? 🤷‍♀️

Permission was sought to remove the fence (destroy is a strong word), the neighbours should give their heads a wobble, they’ve been gifted a brand new, decent looking fence for free. Personally I don’t think they have a right to be so pedantic 🙄

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:33

AGlinnerOfHope · 08/05/2024 09:28

You obviously like efficiency. Some of us prefer aesthetics and in their own garden, they get to choose. They would not have given permission for OP to remove their fence if they’d known what replacement she was choosing.

The timber fence put up at my new build 26 years ago is still going strong. Never stained or painted because that spoils the wood. It’s aged to a graceful silver, as it’s designed to do. Extremely windy plot as well- we couldn’t have a parasol up as it carried the table away with it. Vertical slats in that case, with tiny gaps for the wind to pass through.

The hideous concrete posts are not to everyone’s taste. OP should have put the fence up on her side if she didn’t like their existing fence.

I like both efficiency and aesthetics, this is what I see from the photo posted 😉

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 11:33

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:31

Well they’re ungrateful, the new fence looks fab. Anything was better than the tatt that was there before, they’re obviously being deliberately difficult and I’m surprised how much support they have garnered from MN 😩

If someone destroyed your property and replaced it with something you didn’t like and hadn’t asked for, would you be grateful? 🤷‍♀️

Northernladdette · 08/05/2024 11:31

Well they’re ungrateful, the new fence looks fab. Anything was better than the tatt that was there before, they’re obviously being deliberately difficult and I’m surprised how much support they have garnered from MN 😩

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 11:31

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 11:26

Because we are not that Petty .

Why would that be petty? Confused

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 11:26

Because we are not that Petty .

OP posts:
fieldsofbutterflies · 08/05/2024 11:15

pavillion1 · 08/05/2024 09:30

OP should have put the fence up on her side if she didn’t like their existing fence.

Ain't that the truth

Why didn't you?