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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

OP posts:
Beezknees · 03/05/2024 19:47

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 18:15

He can’t buy what’s not for sale.

Men who buy sex are far worse than women who sell it, always.

fliptopbin · 03/05/2024 19:45

Not defending the guy, but if you teach in a big comprehensive school you are very unlikely to recognise every pupil who left school 4 years ago, particularly if you only say taught them once a week when they were in year 7. Add in possibly a pseudonym and the fact that the pupil could now look quite different, I can quite believe that the teacher could be oblivious.
I say this as an ex secondary school teacher who now lives near a school I once taught at. I regularly get ex pupils coming to chat to me if I pass them on the street and have had to perfect the art of hiding the fact that I have no idea who they are.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 03/05/2024 19:33

EBearhug · 03/05/2024 18:25

He can't, but he doesn't have to buy it if it is for sale - something being for sale doesn't mean you have an obligation to buy it. He has made a choice.

Edited

And so did she

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/05/2024 19:24

If she doesn't want people looking at her (only) fan(s), don't do only fans

PropertyManager · 03/05/2024 19:19

sheroku · 03/05/2024 18:30

At the other end of the spectrum is that her profile is anonymised and by random chance out of all the hundreds of thousands of OF profiles, he's accidentally and unknowingly landed on the page of a former pupil that he can’t even recognise. It is another possibility. It seems farfetched to me, but I accept it could happen.

This is the issue surely. This can't possibly be coincidence. Which means he knows she's a former pupil, remembers her, and is getting some kind of kick out of her being a former student. I can't believe how many people aren't concerned by that.

Well, I'm not sure, I'm a male teacher, who is (and has been for 18 years) married to an ex pupil, and I honestly can't remember her or teaching her!

We met when she came back to the school after uni as an NQT, I taught her (I did I checked the records) in my second year teaching A level physics, but honestly have no recollection of it - which she still finds annoying!!

As to this fellow, OnlyFans is seedy, but it's not illegal, and this girl is what, 22, long since left school - I can't see the school would be interested and she could be done under GDPR I think.

One of those best left alone scenarios, but if I knew it and had him as a colleague I would be keeping an eye on his activities - I've worked with two teachers who has "rumours", both ended up struck off for life - no smoke and all that!

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 18:55

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 18:50

I agree he’s a dirty bugger but this is what happens when sites like Only fans exist.

Yes, men have never been sleazy or predatory before Only Fans and their behaviour is always womens' fault.

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 18:50

EBearhug · 03/05/2024 18:25

He can't, but he doesn't have to buy it if it is for sale - something being for sale doesn't mean you have an obligation to buy it. He has made a choice.

Edited

I agree he’s a dirty bugger but this is what happens when sites like Only fans exist.

sheroku · 03/05/2024 18:30

At the other end of the spectrum is that her profile is anonymised and by random chance out of all the hundreds of thousands of OF profiles, he's accidentally and unknowingly landed on the page of a former pupil that he can’t even recognise. It is another possibility. It seems farfetched to me, but I accept it could happen.

This is the issue surely. This can't possibly be coincidence. Which means he knows she's a former pupil, remembers her, and is getting some kind of kick out of her being a former student. I can't believe how many people aren't concerned by that.

EBearhug · 03/05/2024 18:25

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 18:15

He can’t buy what’s not for sale.

He can't, but he doesn't have to buy it if it is for sale - something being for sale doesn't mean you have an obligation to buy it. He has made a choice.

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 18:15

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 15:53

🤨 men who buy onlyfans are disgusting and have no respect for women. Bollocks to his "private life" that involves buying women like objects.

He can’t buy what’s not for sale.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 18:12

cardibach · 03/05/2024 18:02

I didn’t say immediately after they leave (though I have worked in schools where this is effectively possible).
Im not sure there’s anything in the OP to suggest they suspect he knows who she is. They just don’t like that a teacher is on there. Neither do I really, but it’s not illegal or against safeguarding - unless it can be proved he deliberately hunted down her account, which I’m not sure is even possible. Does she use her real name? Does he? How would he know to look?

Well the worst-case scenario would be that he is a predator, and picks girls that he teaches and finds them online (I have worked with a teacher who did this and was sacked and barred from teaching again, though the case sadly fell short of prosecution) and that she has either linked her OF with other open social media and he's found her like that, or that she does use her real name. And that he is specifically excited by her OF because of the memories of her in school.

That is one possibility - and no one can say it isn't possible. Groomers and predators tend to be in it for the long-haul and are sinister, sneaky and absolutely determined.

At the other end of the spectrum is that her profile is anonymised and by random chance out of all the hundreds of thousands of OF profiles, he's accidentally and unknowingly landed on the page of a former pupil that he can’t even recognise. It is another possibility. It seems farfetched to me, but I accept it could happen.

Or it's something in between. And in cases of doubt, people should report. If I was working with a teacher who subscribed to former pupils' OF, or if my kids were taught by a teacher who did this, I would be very unhappy and I would hope it would be investigated.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/05/2024 18:10

How does onlyfans work though? As in could he actually seek her out? Is there a search function where he could deliberately locate her specifically? How do you select?

cardibach · 03/05/2024 18:02

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:51

I'm astonished by that @cardibach - it's so fundamental in an age of social media. To neglect that policy is to leave staff and pupils exposed to potential harm. I don't know of any schools where teachers would be able to befriend students online the day after they leave and it really shouldn't be the case. It's a scandal waiting to happen, and very surprising to have schools so lax on safeguarding.

Do we know he recognises her? We don't, we only have the details in the OP to go on - but based on the fact that the OP is considering reporting him, that suggests that she and her friend have reason to believe that he does know who she is. Clearly they don't think it's coincidental.

Edited

I didn’t say immediately after they leave (though I have worked in schools where this is effectively possible).
Im not sure there’s anything in the OP to suggest they suspect he knows who she is. They just don’t like that a teacher is on there. Neither do I really, but it’s not illegal or against safeguarding - unless it can be proved he deliberately hunted down her account, which I’m not sure is even possible. Does she use her real name? Does he? How would he know to look?

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 18:01

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:59

Honestly, who gives a shit.

Well, it makes a difference if there is, for example, a five year policy. Morally, not so much.

Also, if she's 22 then she was 18 four years ago which is school leaving age so I don't know why you'd be so convinced it must be closer to five.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:59

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:57

But it is four years. And for some reason you're determined to make it five.

Honestly, who gives a shit.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:57

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:56

She’s 22 so it Will be closer to 5.

But it is four years. And for some reason you're determined to make it five.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:56

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:55

Four years!

She’s 22 so it Will be closer to 5.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:55

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:54

I find this so extreme, to move to accusing this man of being a risk to under age women he teaches simply as he subscribed to an ex pupils only fans five years after she left is for me heinous,

we don’t know how old this man is, he could be close t0 the woman on only fans age for all we know.and no I don’t like it either, but to go so far as to start saying he’s a risk to his pupils is shocking.

but I guess in the court of public opinion you will always have someone who takes it as far as they can/

Four years!

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:54

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:19

Maybe the reputation of a teacher who pays his former pupils for sexual content should be ruined?

It's forever baffling to me how sacred a man's reputation is to some people, as opposed to the safety of girls and women - and I absolutely believe a teacher watching porn created by a young woman he taught only four years ago may well be a risk to the teenage girls in his classes now and in the future. I value them and their safety far more highly than his reputation - which wouldn't be at risk if he wasn’t subscribing to ex-pupils' OnlyFans.

I find this so extreme, to move to accusing this man of being a risk to under age women he teaches simply as he subscribed to an ex pupils only fans five years after she left is for me heinous,

we don’t know how old this man is, he could be close t0 the woman on only fans age for all we know.and no I don’t like it either, but to go so far as to start saying he’s a risk to his pupils is shocking.

but I guess in the court of public opinion you will always have someone who takes it as far as they can/

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:52

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:48

I’d she’s 22 it will be closer to five. You keep posting about this policy but you seem wholesale unable to back it up.

The OP says four years, so it's four years.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:51

I'm astonished by that @cardibach - it's so fundamental in an age of social media. To neglect that policy is to leave staff and pupils exposed to potential harm. I don't know of any schools where teachers would be able to befriend students online the day after they leave and it really shouldn't be the case. It's a scandal waiting to happen, and very surprising to have schools so lax on safeguarding.

Do we know he recognises her? We don't, we only have the details in the OP to go on - but based on the fact that the OP is considering reporting him, that suggests that she and her friend have reason to believe that he does know who she is. Clearly they don't think it's coincidental.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:48

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 10:47

Four years, not five.

I'm taking 'romantic relationship' to encompass any sexual relationship, including a transactional one. I can't see teaching regulators saying it's unacceptable for a teacher to date a former student but fine for him to pay her for sexual services?

Clearly, many schools have specific policies regarding social media contact between teachers and former students - as referenced in that page. In my previous schools, that was for five years. Again, the OP is talking about a four year period. I'm not sure where you got five years from.

I’d she’s 22 it will be closer to five. You keep posting about this policy but you seem wholesale unable to back it up.

Spirallingdownwards · 03/05/2024 17:46

Report her too for breach of GDP

cardibach · 03/05/2024 17:45

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 05:39

OP, lots of people have answered who don't understand teachers' safeguarding responsibilities, please do not listen to anyone saying 'it's not illegal' - maybe not, but it is a breach of professional standards and so unacceptable anyway. In all the teaching posts I have held, it's been a school policy that teachers do not have any social media contact with students for a minimum of five years after the students leave the school. That's normal social media - OnlyFans is a whole other level.

The school absolutely need to know about this; it is serious, it is creepy and your gut instincts are not wrong. He has sought out a former pupil for sexual gratification. It's not acceptable and if the school has robust safeguarding policies they absolutely will act.

Edited

I’ve never worked anywhere with that rule. I mean, I can see why some schools might have it, but it’s never been a rule anywhere I’ve worked. Not while they are pupils, yes. After they leave? No.

cardibach · 03/05/2024 17:44

Fraaahnces · 03/05/2024 05:25

Absolutely. Why is he looking up ex students.

How do you know he is? She is an ex student. He may not recognise her. How would he go about ‘looking her up’ anyway - how would he now to look even?