Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

Unless she wants to report using the school as the billing address then there's nothing to report.

You just have to look at any porn site to see there's a trend for material on younger women

The big question is did he subscribe to her as an ex pupil he tracked down
or Did he stumble in random profile with a bit of free content on something like twitter and subscribe that way unaware it’s her as doubt she uses her real name
and teachers have literally 1000’s of pupils do they remember them all individually , there names and when they look different 5 years later

do we know it definitely him loads of people have the same name

without the answer to the above were just guessing

I don’t think you can be certain he has specifically sought her out- of course, he may have but I don’t think you can be sure. Is she recognisable/using her own name? Does she link to her Only Fans page from another- perhaps more identifiable- social media source? If not it’s possible he has no idea.

Also, if OP reports it I doubt anything can be done. His employer will have no proof other than OP stating her friend said he was a subscriber. His employers have no right to enforce him to disclose anything/anccess his devices etc and as he has not broken any laws, it’s not a police matter. What do you think expect will happen? I doubt they can do anything based on hearsay, surely?

if her friend reports, she’ll still have to provide evidence- no employer can just take her word for it. That is providing private data to a third party and is there for a data breach (different when revealing data to the police where the law has been broken). My understanding is that this is categorically not allowed as he has not broken any laws. Even if he were to have breached his contract of employment (and it would seem different schools have different time restrictions on contact with ex-pupils, so we can’t even be 100% sure he has done that), then that does not (legally) allow op’s friend to breach data rules to give this information to his employer. I suspect she would then have breached her own contract with OF. I’m not sure if any legal ramifications for her should she breach data protection/privacy rules- either from only fans or from the person whose data she passed on.

She is putting material out there and anyone is free to buy it. If she doesn't like that, she could get a job where she remains clothed.

Pornography is simply the representation in art or film of sexual acts. You think that in and of itself is morally wrong? If sex isn’t morally wrong, how can the portrayal of it be so intrinsically wrong?

The porn industry is a whole other issue of course. Rotten to the core.

And the particular type of porn that dominates our culture (misogynistic porn) is also a huge problem.

But denouncing all porn as simply bad is incredibly simplistic.

Cheating on your partner brings an unknowing and/or non consenting person into the situation, which is not the same as one consenting adult creating and selling porn pics or videos to another consenting adult.

In the second example, everybody gets what they wanted and expected, with no ill effect on anyone else. You don't want to buy or sell pictures then nobody is making you, but you don't get to tell other adults what to do.

Oh give over.

Everyone’s morals are different. I personally have no issue with porn, although I don’t watch it myself, and I would never judge how someone chooses to get themselves off, as long as two single consenting adults, it’s fuck all to do with me.

for you all porn is morally wrong and no one should look at it, and that’s fine. You do you.

And I don't agree. Many things are legal, it doesn't mean that they are right or that we shouldn't judge them. Cheating on your partner is not illegal, it doesn't make it right.

This is the crux of the matter, you can moralise all you like, but law is the only thing that counts.

What he is doing is not illegal, nor is what she is doing. She is offering a service which he is subscribing to.

I have an ex pupil and now registered gas fitter of 24 years old service my boiler, it's the same thing, from a legal stand point.

In the case of this teacher and only fans girl, the power imbalance that existed when he was her teacher has long since ceased to exist, you could argue as her customer the balance has shifted.

Some schools do have policies on how long after a pupil leaves you can interact with them socially, but these would be legally unenforceable, the professional standards don't set any timeframe after a pupil leaves at 18, because they can't, legally.

Schools own contact recommendations exist to protect teachers entering into relationships with ex pupils from allegations they started said relationship before the pupil left. They don't cover buying a pupils service, be that boiler servicing, a coffee from their pop up coffee shop, lift in their taxi, or indeed only fans content.

My personal view is that it sounds very seedy from both parties, but my view that OF is seedy doesn't count, it's not illegal.

You would have to prove that something was actively in play before she left school to have any genuine complaint.

If however she discloses details to the school of her customers, she breaches GDPR and he would have a good case against her.

But is she bothered?, she's getting paid for the service she has chosen to deliver.

He's disgusting.

I don’t agree with you. Porn is legal, and as long as the participants are not coerced and acting of free will, which it sounds like this woman is, then it isn’t your or my place to judge what two consenting adults agree to do when it’s perfectly legal.

Of course it's morally wrong. No one should be looking at porn.

He's not doing anything wrong legally or morally.

Are teachers not allowed to look at porn but the rest of the population is?

Is it ethically wrong for someone to view porn but for the OP's friend to produce it?

If I was the teacher and she reported me I would go after her for GDPR breach.

Sillyjane I was making the point that our society still seems to excuse men who are vouyers. Whether 26 46 or 66, it's creepy anyway and worse if a teacher looking at his ex pupil..I would be very upset if any one I knew was on there. Young women shouldn't have to feel they need to exhibit themselves like this.but it is seen as acceptable as we live in a patriarchal society where mens "needs" must always be met.Women are killed 2 a week, and hurt on a daily basis.this is just sending a message that we are for sexual gratification

I would want to know this

Has he made himself known he is her old teacher via a message or other wise?
If he has then I would consider this a big problem and wouldn’t hesitate to report. he’s making it known he knows she’s an ex pupil, power dynamics potentially at play here and leaves her open to potential blackmail (also leaves himself open to this too) . Any normal teacher would back the fuck away and seek out someone he hasn’t taught for this sort of content.

what kind of content is your friend making? If it’s playing on the ‘teen’ stuff because she looks really young and acting immature or she’s wearing school uniforms or similar this is a big issue because the ex-teacher has sought out this particular type of content and I would be hugely concerned a teacher is getting aroused by women pretending to be school pupils or young teens. (id also think your friend is a dick for making that kind of content too!)

there’s the slim possibility he doesn’t know who she is. With make up, camera angles and the type of content your friend is making she probably looks very different to her school years.

if it was a follow/subscribe and nothing else I don’t think there’s much she can do short of blocking him getting access and refunding any money he has payed.

as her friend I would be telling her the huge risks she’s creating for herself with her only fans. She already has someone she knows accessing her material. At 22 you’re too young to really understand the impacts this will have on the rest of your life.

also I liken only fans to MLM opportunities. The only people making money are the company owners and the ones that are already big names and you are doing all the Labour for a pittance. Basically an abusive relationship not empowering at all.

Oh it's become a few years rather than five now @Sillyjane . I'm sketching out the worst case scenario of what his behaviour might mean, because I think he should be reported - because keeping children safe means reporting anything that is concerning, and a teacher subscribing to an ex-pupil's OF is a concern. The school can decide what to do with the information - it may be nothing, it may be major. But I have worked with a teacher who groomed his students and I do know that it happens, and what the consequences can be.

At the very least, this man needs to be told his judgement and his boundaries are off. He may not be the man I have described, but he might be - and if he is, then girls get hurt as a result of it being dismissed and ignored.

I've no idea how OF works. Does she not have to accept him before he can see everything?

And we still don't know if she was someone he may have taught in Y7 for a term or right up until the end of her A levels. If it was Y7 he'd likely have no idea. If it was Y13 he'll know for sure

The poster for me has dived off the deep end. And is being very forceful in her views, which have included a huge amount of reach.

@WhatIfHesWrittenMine for all you know he’s close to her age, never looked at her twice at school , was on only fans, found her attractive, liked her content and subscribed. You are going simply too far. Masturbating over school kids he recently taught, plural. Getting off on making her uncomfortable, dynamic, the memories

its sick and it is something you’ve no idea if it’s even remotely true.

and edited to say she’s not a school girl he recently taught. She’s a grown woman he taught a few years ago.

While his behaviour is a disgusting the fact remains that if she is setting out her stall in that way as an adult then she can hardly act all shocked and play the victim when someone she knows buys her product.

Personally I think that what she is doing i.e. making pornography is just as disgusting and creepy as him buying it.

I didn't want a man who masturbates over former schoolgirls he recently taught teaching my daughters, no, but my point there was that his fantasies are inextricably tied up with his behaviour because it's not imaginary - he has made sexual contact with this young woman. So it's not the fantasies alone, perhaps I was unclear there, it's that he's fuelling the fantasies by acting in a way that is not OK and that takes them outside of his own head and starts to have an impact on the subject of the fantasy. Which is the problem.

Look, he has crossed a line. Subscribing to her OF is a boundary that he has chosen to break. One boundary topples and it gets easier to push through the next and the next...

I'm going to say I believe the OP that he was creepy, that he already makes girls uncomfortable. Because that's right in line with him finding the OF and signing up to it. That is a pattern of behaviour, and one that I'd rather not have around my girls for sure. So I think he should be reported to the school, just in case this is another piece of a bigger picture around this particular teacher.

It is NOT about policing fantasies, it is about this man's behaviour @BernardBlacksBreakfastWine

The trouble is, you’ve made a lot of this stuff up.

If the scenario was as you’ve suggested, of course there’s a problem!

But there’s no evidence that much of what you say is actually the case.

This in particular stands out too:

He gets off on the dynamic, on the memories, on the fact that she was his student and the prospect of making her uncomfortable now, he knows it's inappropriate and that's what he likes.

If he gets off on the dynamic and his memory of her, that’s entirely his business (assuming a proper gap between her leaving school and now). You’ve then yoked it seamlessly to the bit that is a problem - the prospect of making her uncomfortable. But that bit is conjecture.

If he’s doing that last bit, if he’s deliberately sought her out and wants her to know it, that’s the problematic bit.

What I object to is the pointless demonisation of the sexual thoughts themselves. It’s happened a lot on this thread by many posters.

There was someone who said they didn’t want a man who masturbates over young women anywhere near her children. As if the aim is to eliminate other people’s sexual fantasies! It’s not only ridiculous- it’s counter-productive.

Male behaviour is a massive problem in our society. It’s an unmanageable problem at the moment tbh. It leaks into all our culture. It needs constant policing. There’s plenty to do without speculating about what men might be masturbating over FFS.

You don’t know, even, if the guy is a ‘known creep’. There are plenty of teachers that kids label ‘creepy’ without a shred of evidence. Equally, there are plenty of genuinely predatory men who go under the radar.

I’m sorry if this topic is bringing back specific memories for you. But this is not about your predatory teacher.

'Not everything sexual is evil' I am banging my head against a wall here. That has never been what I was saying and it is so reductive and so patronising and so far off the point.

I did assume you were a man, so some of my response obviously doesn't make sense. But I've explained the pattern of groomers as best I can, if you can't see the danger in what this man has done then I can't convince you. But please understand that I am not horrified or 'fainting' at the thought of sex or sexual fantasies. That's not the point at all.

And if I have to spell it out again @BernardBlacksBreakfastWine before you patronisingly explain the concept of sexual fantasies being private to me again, here is my issue:

• it's highly unlikely he ended up on her page by coincidence. If he actively sought her out then is he someone who keeps tabs on certain girls he teaches, looks them up online, searches for information about them - stalks them, in fact?
• when he hit the jackpot and found she had an OF, he actively chose to subscribe, knowing this young woman would see it was him. He gets off on the dynamic, on the memories, on the fact that she was his student and the prospect of making her uncomfortable now, he knows it's inappropriate and that's what he likes.
• but the thrill wears off over time, he needs something more. Like other pornsick predators, he needs to escalate - and that's the point at which he moves to the girls in his classes right now.

I am extremely aware of male teachers who have groomed pupils and it doesn't begin with immediate offending. They build up. It starts with fantasy, they make it a reality over time. This guy is a known creep. He's managed to find this OF page and made an active choice to make contact. He's like a flasher at this point, and plenty of women have experienced patronising men dismissing how uncomfortable and upsetting their experience of flashers have been (but they're probably just silly uptight women, right, who don't understand that men have sexual thoughts!) And as we know, flashers escalate to graver offences.

Don't tell me you're a noble defender of women, one of the good guys, a nice guy! When you just have to put women in their place and you resort to the old chestnut of telling them they're pearl clutchers - hysterical maybe? We've heard it before.