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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

OP posts:
WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:56

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 08:53

How’s she a victim, what am I missing? She’s proactively choosing to do a only fans page, he’s entitled to subscribe, he’s not flashing folks?

He's masturbating to an ex-pupil; it's highly likely that the memories of her being his student are heightening the thrill. Eventually this won't be enough for him and he will follow the predictable path that predators take, and it will be a current pupil who becomes a victim.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 08:53

CHEESEY13 · 03/05/2024 08:51

Report. He's trying to find out how far he can go.....until it's too late for a victim?

Didn't Wayne Couzens - Sarah Everard's rapist murderer - begin by "flashing" and then escalated his behaviour to the most destructive level?

How’s she a victim, what am I missing? She’s proactively choosing to do a only fans page, he’s entitled to subscribe, he’s not flashing folks?

CHEESEY13 · 03/05/2024 08:51

Report. He's trying to find out how far he can go.....until it's too late for a victim?

Didn't Wayne Couzens - Sarah Everard's rapist murderer - begin by "flashing" and then escalated his behaviour to the most destructive level?

JoleneInJeans · 03/05/2024 08:51

Unless she advertises herself on only fans as Jane Smith class 5a St Mary's class of 2018 then I don't imagine that he has tracked her down Confused

It's likely that he doesn't remember every pupil he's had over the years.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:50

littlekittyhoward · 03/05/2024 08:43

@WhatIfHesWrittenMine interesting - this happened in the last decade. At a private school though and he is a well respected teacher. Everything I’ve read told me there was no point raising it after the fact. I’m not even sure I want to, but I’ve always had a niggle in the back of my head that maybe it would be right to. But I have no interest in dragging up the past or something I consented to.

I'm very sorry this happened to you and please don't blame yourself for 'consenting'. The power dynamics in a teacher student relationship don't allow for true consent and I promise it was not your fault.

You might find it too triggering to read, but the novel My Dark Vanessa (based on real life) shows exactly how grooming works and the way it is so insidious and damaging. It is never the victim's fault.

You're under no obligation to report, but if you do the school should take it seriously. If they don't, they are in the wrong. It's your choice, and very understandable if you prefer not to.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:47

renomeno · 03/05/2024 08:38

@WhatIfHesWrittenMine why would she even think to use her real name on an site like this... if that's the case she's probably got more than just the teacher looking at her or 'buying her content'!

Well she might not use her real name but he might have found her another way, perhaps via a link from her mainstream social media - some people do advertise their OF on their 'normal' profiles. She might have been naive or silly or she might be adamant that it's her right to have an OF. I personally don't like it, but I'm not a moral judge of this woman's choices. But it's absolutely the case that any former teacher of hers who looks at it is breaching their professional standards and behaving in a way that compromises their integrity and trustworthiness to do the job. There is plenty of porn online; no one needs to look at an ex-pupil performing it. The fact that he's chosen to subscribe to her account specifically begs the question why.

Teq · 03/05/2024 08:45

Surely dirty old perverts are her target clientele?

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 08:45

What do you mean someone bought it. Do you mean she has an only fans page and an ex teacher subscribed? I can’t see how that’s illegal to be honest.

littlekittyhoward · 03/05/2024 08:43

@WhatIfHesWrittenMine interesting - this happened in the last decade. At a private school though and he is a well respected teacher. Everything I’ve read told me there was no point raising it after the fact. I’m not even sure I want to, but I’ve always had a niggle in the back of my head that maybe it would be right to. But I have no interest in dragging up the past or something I consented to.

AlltheFs · 03/05/2024 08:42

It’s definitely a GDPR breach in that she has told YOU. It’s quite worrying that she doesn’t understand that. She shouldn’t be telling anyone about her customers.

If she had approached the school with a legitimate concern that might be different but she has told a completely unrelated third party first. You can’t do that.

If she had just left school I’d certainly report. 4 years is a bit of a grey area. He could also easily deny knowing it was a former pupil.

I’d completely stay out of it @ShyPearlMoose as you shouldn’t know about it.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:41

littlekittyhoward · 03/05/2024 08:37

It’s unlikely the school would be interested at all. I had a summer fling with one of my old teachers when I was 19 (looking back as an adult, what was I thinking?!) As I’ve gotten older I think about it a lot and particularly think about what was going on at school and whether it constituted grooming but I’ve looked into it and there’s no point reporting. No one would care, sadly.

Things have changed a lot in schools in terms of safeguarding and yes, they would care if that happened now.

renomeno · 03/05/2024 08:38

@WhatIfHesWrittenMine why would she even think to use her real name on an site like this... if that's the case she's probably got more than just the teacher looking at her or 'buying her content'!

littlekittyhoward · 03/05/2024 08:37

It’s unlikely the school would be interested at all. I had a summer fling with one of my old teachers when I was 19 (looking back as an adult, what was I thinking?!) As I’ve gotten older I think about it a lot and particularly think about what was going on at school and whether it constituted grooming but I’ve looked into it and there’s no point reporting. No one would care, sadly.

PurpleBugz · 03/05/2024 08:35

Yeah it's creepy and says a lot about him but it's not illegal. Reporting may get her in trouble as she's disclosing private information? Sad that that's the case really

Naunet · 03/05/2024 08:34

Well it’s fucking grim, but if you’re going to get your bits out on the internet, you don’t get to control who looks. It’s empowering, apparently.

InSpainTheRain · 03/05/2024 08:24

Surely she could get into trouble for divulging her clients details. I'd keep out of it, she won't thank you if that blows up.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:20

I'm writing from the perspective of someone who has worked with a teacher who pursued pupils via social media by the way; I know it happens. And surprise surprise, it was the teacher that everyone got creepy vibes from but never did anything about because there was never solid proof - until some teenage girls were victimised by him. Gut instincts are there for a reason. And teachers getting on pupils/ex-pupils' social media is a warning sign.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:16

Soontobe60 · 03/05/2024 08:10

You’re making assumptions though. Obviously, one would need actual proof, which would mean his devices being checked for their search history. But as nothing illegal has taken place, then that’s not going to happen.
It’s pointless getting all worked up about it, because he’s not actually committed a crime, and if the SM policy in his school says no SM contact within 2 years, then he’s not even gone against that, so couldn’t be disciplined in school.
It’s grim all round, but not necessarily a safeguarding matter as such. However, the fact that she has outed her clients is an issue.

How about if the policy is five years, like it was in my last two schools?

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:15

shoppingshamed · 03/05/2024 08:08

Would a teacher really have a list of ex pupils and search them all on the off chance they were on OF?

That just doesn't sound very likely to me, is there more to this that has led him to be able to make the connection?

Of course he doesn't have a list of every pupil he's ever taught. Going on the theory that he's a predator, he no doubt remembers the girls he's attracted to. He could have been looking this young woman up online since she was a pupil, others too. Groomers choose their targets; you can't say someone isn't a predator because they don't go after every single person that falls into their category. So no, I'm sure he hasn't laboriously typed the contents of every register he's taken in the past four years into the OF search bar - but he might have been looking at this young woman, and others in his classes on various social media accounts, for a long time.

I'm not saying that's definitely the case, but his behaviour here raises the suspicion that it could be the case. The OP remembers him being creepy at school. Robust safeguarding means investigating these possibilities. If he is a predator, then at some point masturbating over former pupils won't be enough for him.

Soontobe60 · 03/05/2024 08:14

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 08:09

If the teacher is buying onlyfans, he has no respect for women and views them as objects, so yes he's failing his female students.

I don’t disagree.

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 08:11

I wouldn't want my DC being taught by a man that views women as objects to be bought.

Soontobe60 · 03/05/2024 08:10

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 08:00

How many people are on OnlyFans? It's a global website, it's huge. And he just happened to accidentally end up on a former student's profile? I don't see how that is more likely than him searching for her.

You’re making assumptions though. Obviously, one would need actual proof, which would mean his devices being checked for their search history. But as nothing illegal has taken place, then that’s not going to happen.
It’s pointless getting all worked up about it, because he’s not actually committed a crime, and if the SM policy in his school says no SM contact within 2 years, then he’s not even gone against that, so couldn’t be disciplined in school.
It’s grim all round, but not necessarily a safeguarding matter as such. However, the fact that she has outed her clients is an issue.

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 08:09

Soontobe60 · 03/05/2024 07:57

There’s nothing in the OP’s post that indicated he has specifically searched for the person. I would assume that he has come across her site whist browsing OF and subscribed. TBH as a teacher, I’d be more concerned that a former student was selling porn, and feel like we had failed her in some way. After all, I would assume that this school doesn’t offer prostitution as an option for work experience.

If the teacher is buying onlyfans, he has no respect for women and views them as objects, so yes he's failing his female students.

shoppingshamed · 03/05/2024 08:08

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 07:58

What's really worrying is the possibility he is deliberately searching for his former students online. If he has tracked this young woman down on purpose, it suggests he is acting on sexual attraction to the students in his care - perhaps thinking he is staying on the bounds of acceptable by leaving a gap between them finishing school and him finding them (he isn't, but some people on this thread apparently think he is).

Predators and groomers escalate their behaviour. There is a relationship of trust and power between teachers and students and we have to ensure that young people are protected from this being abused. Teachers contacting former students can open up the potential for this to happen, hence the professional standards in place to prevent it.

This is even more serious that a teacher befriending a former pupil on mainstream social media as it's unequivocally sexual.

People can speculate that it could be an innocent mistake, that he's an ordinary creep who just follows young women on OnlyFans and hasn't realised it's an ex-pupil, but anyone involved in safeguarding can't just dismiss these things as 'probably a coincidence'. It seems far more likely that he does know who she is, and possible that part of the thrill for him is the memory of her as a child in her school uniform in his classes. Does that sound like someone you want teaching your teenage daughter?

Would a teacher really have a list of ex pupils and search them all on the off chance they were on OF?

That just doesn't sound very likely to me, is there more to this that has led him to be able to make the connection?

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/05/2024 08:04

Also, she is an adult.

If she doesn't want people looking at her only fans, don't do only fans.

Simple.

Why put intimate footage of yourself on the internet then expect only people you don't know to look at it? If she thinks people are creepy for looking - why the hell is she creating material that attracts creepy blokes?