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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

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WearyAuldWumman · 03/05/2024 14:04

sheroku · 03/05/2024 13:46

This thread is absolutely incredible. People really think a (possibly quiet naive) 22 year old selling saucy pictures of herself online is "just as grim" as her older, former teacher paying for them? The same guy that the OP described as "creepy" when they were at school? Unless she's a big OnlyFans star then the chances of him just happening to subscribe without knowing she was a former pupil must surely be nil.

But yes of course the main concern here is the GDPR breach. Must make sure those perverts don't get outted.

I've never watched - and never shall watch - one of those sites, but from what I've read, it's often much more than just 'saucy pictures', unfortunately.

I'm fairly ancient and now only do a teeny bit of supply. When I was still teaching full-time, I had a couple of instances of pupils thinking that they could make a good living out of the 'sex industry'. Yes, it was all reported at the time.

These girls just have no idea of what they're getting into. I recall one girl telling me she intended to be a 'pole dancer because there's good money in it'.

A few years later, a male colleague came into school on a Monday morning, visibly distressed. He'd been accosted by a former pupil on his Saturday night out - he was just a young man - and she'd offered him a particular service for a fiver.

He'd given her five pounds and told her to use it to take a taxi home.

It's a slippery slope.

ETA I think that when people are mentioning the "data breach", they're worried about the girl getting into legal trouble. (It's not fair, but the law seldom is.)

sheroku · 03/05/2024 13:46

This thread is absolutely incredible. People really think a (possibly quiet naive) 22 year old selling saucy pictures of herself online is "just as grim" as her older, former teacher paying for them? The same guy that the OP described as "creepy" when they were at school? Unless she's a big OnlyFans star then the chances of him just happening to subscribe without knowing she was a former pupil must surely be nil.

But yes of course the main concern here is the GDPR breach. Must make sure those perverts don't get outted.

EBearhug · 03/05/2024 13:44

I think it depends on the school's safeguarding policy, but even if it's 2 years rather than 5, it's still not great.

I think it also makes a difference if it's clear he knows it's her. Even if he didn't realise, it's still creepy that he's subscribing to pages of women barely older than those he teaches. Has he ever made comments on her page, especially if it's along the lines of, "I thought you were hot even when you sat in the back of my class?" I would absolutely report if that were the case.

He is daft in any case - yes, I'm quite aware teachers look at porn (some of them also do OLD,) but there's no need for anyone to pay for it these days, and if you work in an industry where safeguarding is so important, it seems stupid to do something so traceable as subscribing.

But unless you have been looking at her profile and you can see him as one of her subscribers (and I don't know how OnlyFans works there,) you shouldn't be the one to report it, she should. You would just be reporting hearsay. If she reports it, she has proof.

mjf981 · 03/05/2024 13:39

So she’s selling herself online to horny men. She can control who views her content. Either block him or don’t. Don’t ruin his career for some sort of imaginary high ground, when he’s only buying what she is selling. You can’t have it both ways. It would be hypocritical.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 13:35

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2024 13:27

Seriously, there could be hundreds of teachers/doctors/all sorts using OF.

How would we know?

They can use it but not to masturbate over their former pupils or patients. It's a pretty low bar to set.

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2024 13:27

ChipsCheeseAndGravey · 03/05/2024 13:16

I don’t think the school can do anything, maybe there’s something in the contract but I don’t know what that actual repercussions would be. On the other hand if my niece was in his class this would concern me I can’t lie. Not great conduct for a teacher. I’m sensitive to this kind of thing because we had several teacher at my school who had rumours about them who turned out to be actual pedophiles and groomers.

Seriously, there could be hundreds of teachers/doctors/all sorts using OF.

How would we know?

ChipsCheeseAndGravey · 03/05/2024 13:16

I don’t think the school can do anything, maybe there’s something in the contract but I don’t know what that actual repercussions would be. On the other hand if my niece was in his class this would concern me I can’t lie. Not great conduct for a teacher. I’m sensitive to this kind of thing because we had several teacher at my school who had rumours about them who turned out to be actual pedophiles and groomers.

godmum56 · 03/05/2024 13:07

destinationzoo · 03/05/2024 00:50

Your friend is on only fans?
Who her 'fans' are is the least of her problems.

this

HugeCwtch · 03/05/2024 13:05

RawBloomers · 03/05/2024 02:17

Might be the least of her problems but OP and others are concerned about the problems this “fan” might have caused for other people, especially children at his school.

What other people?

what has his porn habit got to do with his job?

She is 22 - an adult, who is sharing his confidential information, and I would say she is in breach.

SpideyVerse · 03/05/2024 13:01

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 05:39

OP, lots of people have answered who don't understand teachers' safeguarding responsibilities, please do not listen to anyone saying 'it's not illegal' - maybe not, but it is a breach of professional standards and so unacceptable anyway. In all the teaching posts I have held, it's been a school policy that teachers do not have any social media contact with students for a minimum of five years after the students leave the school. That's normal social media - OnlyFans is a whole other level.

The school absolutely need to know about this; it is serious, it is creepy and your gut instincts are not wrong. He has sought out a former pupil for sexual gratification. It's not acceptable and if the school has robust safeguarding policies they absolutely will act.

Edited

Yep

tamade · 03/05/2024 12:56

If she doesn’t want dirty old men wanking over her she could always, er, maybe not do only fans?

WearyAuldWumman · 03/05/2024 12:48

ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

It's gross, but there's nothing for the school to take action over. Your friend is in her 20s and the former teacher is no longer in a position of authority over her.

I recall hearing of a situation where a young woman of a similar age was embarrassed because she was giving out leaflets for the lap dancing club where she worked. (She was waylaying men on their way to a rugby match.)

As she was handing over a leaflet, she realised that she was giving it to a former teacher who was laughing his head off. She wasn't at all happy about the situation. (No, he didn't go to her club.)

Unfortunately, your friend's occupation means that she's going to be leered at by unsavoury types. I'm not shaming here - but that's literally the job she's signed up for.

If your friend is embarrassed, she can surely block the creep?

I think your point is that this creep shouldn't be working in a school, but he hasn't done anything inappropriate with someone of school age, so the school cannot take action.

Todaywasbetter · 03/05/2024 12:47

So she doesn’t mind any Tom Dick and Harry looking at her Fanny, but somehow made an exception for him that’s just funny.

MzHz · 03/05/2024 12:39

Your friends is selling herself on line and is complaining who’s buying.

my god I couldn’t be friends with someone as awful AND stupid as that.

You’re only as good as the company you keep @ShyPearlMoose

up your standards a bit.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 03/05/2024 12:11

OF is likely to take the doxxing of its subscribers quite seriously, their business model wouldn't survive otherwise

jenny38 · 03/05/2024 11:49

I imagine in his contract there could be a phrase about conduct, which says something along the lines of " not engaging in anything that can bring the profession or establishment into disrepute".
I would let the school know. This could be the tip of the iceberg. As someone who works with teenagers, this makes my skin crawl. Those rumours may well have a basis.

Lupuswarriors · 03/05/2024 11:47

He's not her teacher anymore so it's not the same. It's been 4 years, he probably can't even remember her and just a coincidence that he joined that person.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 11:45

neverbeenskiing · 03/05/2024 11:10

What's really worrying is the possibility he is deliberately searching for his former students online.

There is no evidence to support this. The school do not have the legal authority to seize his personal electronic devices and check his search history. It would therefore be impossible to prove that this was a deliberate act. Even if the woman with the Only Fans account is using her real name (we don't know this) it could easily be claimed that he didn't remember her.

If he has tracked this young woman down on purpose, it suggests he is acting on sexual attraction to the students in his care

Again, this is speculation. What it actually suggests is that he is acting on a sexual attraction to an adult woman who has made a legal choice to post explicit content of herself online. There is no evidence that he is attracted to children or adolescents. Schools and professional bodies cannot act on gossip or conjecture. One of the first things they teach you in DSL training is "don't write your own script", you have to base decisions on facts and evidence.

I agree that if this is true it's vile and I would definitely think less of a colleague who did this. But as someone who has been tasked with investigating allegations against Teaching staff in schools, I would be surprised if this went anywhere based on the information in the OP.
OP is free to report her concerns to the school, but unless she has evidence to support them no action can be taken.

Every DSL I've worked with has emphasised how important it is to report every concern. I've never been told in safeguarding briefings not to bother reporting something on the basis that it probably won't go anywhere.

I agree with you that of course it might not go anywhere, but I would always encourage anyone to report their concerns and I don't think anyone tasked with safeguarding in a school would consider a teacher paying a former student for sexually explicit content only four years after she left to be nothing to worry about. At the very least, it would call into question that teacher's judgement and boundaries and prompt a refresher on social media interactions!

Notchangingnameagain · 03/05/2024 11:44

Your friend is VVVVVVVU for gossiping about who her clients are.

Shan5474 · 03/05/2024 11:19

I know someone who married their college teacher, they got together after she left and they are now happy with a child. I assume he was newly qualified because there isn’t a huge age gap. So I think actual relationships depend on the situation.

In this situation how does the friend know it’s definitely him? If it’s her own website then it’s not OnlyFans. Is it just someone with the same name? I would’ve expected her to have some kind of privacy policy. She’s not at the school anymore and they are presumably not in contact so I don’t know when the student-teacher relationship “times out”

neverbeenskiing · 03/05/2024 11:10

What's really worrying is the possibility he is deliberately searching for his former students online.

There is no evidence to support this. The school do not have the legal authority to seize his personal electronic devices and check his search history. It would therefore be impossible to prove that this was a deliberate act. Even if the woman with the Only Fans account is using her real name (we don't know this) it could easily be claimed that he didn't remember her.

If he has tracked this young woman down on purpose, it suggests he is acting on sexual attraction to the students in his care

Again, this is speculation. What it actually suggests is that he is acting on a sexual attraction to an adult woman who has made a legal choice to post explicit content of herself online. There is no evidence that he is attracted to children or adolescents. Schools and professional bodies cannot act on gossip or conjecture. One of the first things they teach you in DSL training is "don't write your own script", you have to base decisions on facts and evidence.

I agree that if this is true it's vile and I would definitely think less of a colleague who did this. But as someone who has been tasked with investigating allegations against Teaching staff in schools, I would be surprised if this went anywhere based on the information in the OP.
OP is free to report her concerns to the school, but unless she has evidence to support them no action can be taken.

catmothertes1 · 03/05/2024 10:51

Myteenhatesme · 03/05/2024 01:04

So she vets her customers? I'm not sure she understands what she's got herself into.

Exactly.

She has no right to pass judgement on her "clients".

IvorTheEngineDriver · 03/05/2024 10:50

An Only Fans site that reports its "members" isn't going to last long.

If you mention it to the school:
(a) will your friend thank you for doing it?
(b) if challenged what actual evidence do you have? None it's just hearsay.
Drop it OP.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 10:47

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 10:41

I’m surprised you went there, you must logically know there is absolutely nothing in there to say a teacher cannot subscribe to an ex pupils only fans five years later. A subscription that is freely offered, ans is a private amd confidential transaction. And there is no romantic relationship.

quite seriously you’re posting that teachers cannot do what he is doing. Your post shows you simply cannot. And have no evidence at all for what you’re saying.

abain, i am happy to be corrected, but you will need to step up and evidence this, if you cannot then we need to assume it’s nonsense.

Four years, not five.

I'm taking 'romantic relationship' to encompass any sexual relationship, including a transactional one. I can't see teaching regulators saying it's unacceptable for a teacher to date a former student but fine for him to pay her for sexual services?

Clearly, many schools have specific policies regarding social media contact between teachers and former students - as referenced in that page. In my previous schools, that was for five years. Again, the OP is talking about a four year period. I'm not sure where you got five years from.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 10:41

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 09:57

In terms of evidence, I don't want to post the policies of the schools I worked in, for confidentiality reasons. I can suggest scrolling down to the 'befriending pupils on social media' section on this headteacher's advice page https://www.headteacher-update.com/content/best-practice/social-media-teachers-and-schools-how-to-avoid-the-pitfalls/ It says that policies do depend on individual schools, but that social media contact with former pupils is 'controversial' and steps may be taken in regard to romantic relationships developing between teachers and students.

This man may be breaching his own school's policy or he may not. In that case I would report and let the school decide. It is certainly not the case that this behaviour is considered fine in all schools, so I don't know how anyone can come on this thread and say it's absolutely not a problem.

I’m surprised you went there, you must logically know there is absolutely nothing in there to say a teacher cannot subscribe to an ex pupils only fans five years later. A subscription that is freely offered, ans is a private amd confidential transaction. And there is no romantic relationship.

quite seriously you’re posting that teachers cannot do what he is doing. Your post shows you simply cannot. And have no evidence at all for what you’re saying.

abain, i am happy to be corrected, but you will need to step up and evidence this, if you cannot then we need to assume it’s nonsense.