To never leave the house ever again

I gave up taking mine food shopping when I had youngest, he would cry most of the time. I switched to online shopping at that point or you could do what my friend did and go shopping after Dad is home. She called it her me time.

Me eldest did the lying on the floor full on tantrum in the middle of the supermarket once. I embrace her about it now she's 16.

It’s easy for me in hindsight, but ido remember these days. Mine are adults now. But my eldest suffered from extreme jealousy of her younger sibling and her behaviour was similar. With hindsight I wish I had given her some time on her own with mummy and left the baby with dad/ Granma if around, friend. I think it may have helped. This may be totally impractical for you. My youngest had a terrible time with bullying from her sibling which resonates to this day. But as I say hindsight is a wonderful thing.

good luck you sound as if you are doing an amazing job. It’s not easy. And ignore the interfering hags!

We try get food deliveries when possible. Or just one of us nips to the shop. I HATE taking the kids (1+4) shopping! That woman is a cow! Big hugs xx

What’s she like at nursery? Have the nursery staff said anything about her behaviour. It is a stage at that age to have tantrums and it can seem horrible out in public with people staring. But I’d be a bit concerned about the constant screaming and not being able to go anywhere because she hits and pushes everyone.

Your post takes me back to that time. It’s so bloody exhausting, stressful and some people seem to love sticking the boot in as an added extra to the whole experience.

For every twat making unhelpful and judgy remarks, there’s a lot of us who understand that awful feeling and are silently sympathetic. It feels so relentless at the time too. Like it’s never going to end. Try your absolute best to focus on the task in hand and ignore any looks and snarky comments. You’ve tried all the usual tactics for minimising shopping tantrums, so just be firm, explain the shopping needs to be done or there wont be anything to eat at meal times. Then plow on, ignoring the protests. Keep going.

Mine are teens now but when they were that little I felt like I was on the verge of tears nearly every time I had to take them into a shopping/public building situation. It seemed like one of them (I have 3) was always kicking off. I’d probably have done the same as you if someone had said that to me - people are so daft. I would also have done what you were doing before that - just try to get round and out asap and ignore the screaming.

Tbh I stopped taking my 3 year old food shopping a long time ago as he doesn’t let me do any actual shopping.

Can you do online food shops instead?

I also basically didn’t go out to eat for a couple of years, and even now, I take my 3 year old to places where the food is instant without a wait.

Regarding the behaviour with the unprovoked pushing etc, that may need something firmer than a ‘kind hands’ talk. I’d recommend reaching out to your HV who can also get a nursery nurse to call you with some advice.

Absolutely this! EVERYONE of us has been there & she should have known better.. stupid interfering cow!

Happens to us all and it will pass
That was really tactless of the lady to say that just ignore

Who are these random fuckers who stick their oar into every situation? It’s true what they say, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and they all stink.

You’re not being unreasonable.

If it any help, when dd2 was 2, she once lost the plot and raged for over an hour in a busy shopping street - hysterical screaming and flailing and sobbing. Absolutely nothing I did made a difference. She is now 14 and completely delightful. It's a stage. It does pass.

You will wind them up about it when they are grown up, and trust me, it happens way quicker than you can ever imagine!

If it happens again just say to the other adult " If you're such an expert on children you fucking take over!"

It happens to all of us, I had two under two as well, and it feels relentless.

I promise you, this stage will pass. And you will look back and laugh.

And ignore the passers by - they'll have forgotten it in an instant, and so should you.