To leave UK due to weather and cost of living

I left the uk in December and despite the COL crisis feel so much better off in every way. As high rate tax payers I was so sick of putting it all in and getting nothing back.

No doubt op is soaking in the weather and forecasted to be 22c next week. Can’t wait 😎🍉

The sun is shining gloriously today in middle England and one is surrounded by budding flowers, butterflies and the sound of the song thrush high up in the neighbour's tree.

What are some people going to moan about if we have a lovely summer in the UK? What if the lovely summer causes even more droughts in Spain? Will the doomers moan about that?

No it isn’t. It’s a bit more paperwork but otherwise fine for most people. No one that is very poor is going to thrive overseas given the cost of living and healthcare anyway.

Most people that want to live overseas can and will.

Why should we care that it’s harder for you? Or for anyone leaving? Our priority is our own country, and our future. I don’t know how you have the audacity to imagine we should be prioritising the convenience of people like you wishing to leave over the security and future of our country!

Our democracy and future is more important than your irritation with the EU bureaucracy and inconvenience - let me be crystal clear about that - your entitlement is astounding.

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER I totally agree on the wisdom of keeping a property in the UK, at least for the first few years! I don't regret emigrating, but in my case it was a necessity because I was priced out of buying in the UK, and about to be priced out of renting.

You remarked that we were not able to leave post Brexit.

That was a stupid remark to "throw around" as you call it. Pointing out that your remark was stupid is absolutely not malicious, just factual.

It's a fact that's it's exponentially more difficult to live and work abroad after brexit. Some people will not be able to leave the uk given the financial immigration restrictions now in place. Not everyone will have a provable income. I'm far from stupid and throwing around comments such as yours shows you are unable to have a conversation without being malicious.

I thought it was pro Brexit voters who are allegedly Stupid?

I voted in part to end Free Movement. Not No Movement

You do understand the difference don't you? 🙄

Op I will say this as someone who has lived in many countries.

You can not replace the love, security and support of your adult children, extended families, friends and communities all around you.

When the shit hits the fan there is nothing more comforting than home. The NHS for all its faults is world leading in terms of medical breakthroughs, developing medicines and vaccines. We are a decent, reliable and trustworthy nation from which you can explore the world if you wish. You have forgotten how precious it is to live your life safely without fear of corruption.

Wherher it is beautiful, sunny summer days like today with fields of buttercups and butterflies. Or snowy days in mid winter, the misty gloom and comforting fires of autumn - it is Home. Home can’t be replaced or replicated.

I hope you are enjoying the sunshine today and marvelling at the stunning colours of spring - with picnics, bbqs and beach days all ahead to look forward to and how lovely to have a family to share it all with.

So you seem to believe the U.K. closed its air spaces, ceased all travel in and out as you left 😂😂
Christ.
Here are the actual statistics based on fact, as you seem to be struggling to comprehend a world in which everything has simply carried on pretty much unchanged!

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2023

Over 600,000 seem to have ‘escaped’ somehow in the last 12 months 😂

YANBU to want to leave, but you really need to make a plan. We did it and it’s not as easy as just going for a holiday.

Good to hear but I think you’ll find people are leaving and arriving every day.

IIRC you can retire to Portugal but you need quite a hefty stash of cash - they don’t want incomers being a drain on them.*

I knew a few people who moved to Portugal and Spain in the past (pre Brexit) but they continued to put a drain on the NHS. I wonder if they need to pay for healthcare over there now? Lol not seen them back in the UK lately!

EasternStandard i left. Pre Brexit.

Why can’t you leave? Sounds a bit extreme

Yeah fuck it! So what if you end up losing everything. Just do it.

Just do it!

It’s is spelt brutes in the sun 😂
Much better name for it in my opinion!!

Maybe watch some if tv programmes ‘Bargain Bruts abroad’ or the one about people doing up chateaux’s and running them as businesses. One featured a cafe owner, and due to forest fires, they didn’t gave any trade for a week as no tourists came to their area.

And yes I have kids - they are travelling in Australia and Asia ( and working) as we speak. The be and end all doesn’t finish on this continent, and quite frankly I find it very limiting of you to imagine that is all there is. There is a whole world out there beyond France fgs.

I think you will find there are tens of thousands of flights leaving 247 and British people especially have access and ability to reside in almost any country in the world!

We live in the U.K. of course we have to prioritise our well being over all else and not those that wish to come and go! The comfort and standards of living must be our number one priority not the convenience of those not even investing their lives here.

I’ve known a couple for whom it worked well for maybe ten years (Spain). But then, for various reasons, it didn’t.

It took them over two years to sell their Spanish house - only for about what they’d paid for it - and since they’d left the U.K. property prices had rocketed and they could no longer afford anything but a tiny flat in the area they’d left. Rather than the large house with big garden they’d had before.

If one of their parents hadn’t died at around the same time, and left them a small house, it would have meant either the tiny flat, or renting for ever more.

I know another couple who moved to Cyprus ‘for good’ but were back within 5 years because one of them became seriously ill.

Very wise IMO for anyone moving abroad to keep some sort of toe-hold in the U.K. property market - in case.

You really want to live on an island and not be able to leave? Do you have kids?

@BMW6 voted Leave in the Brexit vote.

I don't give a damn about Free Movement being ended. In fact it's one of the reasons I voted to leave the EU.

Hopefully this Little Englander view will die out and be replaced by our far more internationally minded and modern younger generation.

Aww, that’s nice for you @BMW6