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That colleague made comment about ginger babies

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CheesexCrackers · 02/05/2024 11:30

To be annoyed about a colleague making comments about ginger hair?

A colleague has recently come back from maternity leave and was talking about her dd.

She said she's so glad she's got brown hair, it would be the worst to have a ginger baby, I would of hated to have a ginger baby it would of been horrible.... she then glanced around the room and noticed my hair and made an awkward face.

I'm pregnant with my first and may well have a red haired baby, which I would personally love.

Is it the pregnancy hormones talking or am I right to be pissed off that she's targeting red hair.... and even red haired babies??

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AInightingale · 08/05/2024 17:12

Goodtogossip · 08/05/2024 16:32

You should have just said quite loudly 'I'll just be pleased not to have an ugly baby' then throw her a look.

That's also a horrible thing to say.

Goodtogossip · 08/05/2024 16:32

You should have just said quite loudly 'I'll just be pleased not to have an ugly baby' then throw her a look.

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 19:22

WonderfulUsername · 04/05/2024 18:06

God that sounds creepy! 😱😂

Yes you could say that, I was thinking don’t they get gingers in southern Spain- don’t think my boyfriend was too impressed when he saw him doing that 😂

WonderfulUsername · 04/05/2024 18:06

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 18:03

Which country? Went to this Spanish bar, this really nice Spanish bloke started stroking my hair & asked did I come northern Spain ☺️

God that sounds creepy! 😱😂

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 18:05

wanttokickoffbutcant · 02/05/2024 21:11

My daughter was born bald, went pure blonde, then a lovely red, back to blonde and now seems to be going to a bland light brown like me. I would love her to have a natural vibrant colour.

I also read either on here or somewhere else on line that a mum made her son break up with his girlfriend who was a redhead as she didn't want "ginger" grandkids....he married a blonde and had ginger kids...the ex girlfriend had two blonde kids....

So rude to make comments like that.

Oh great stuff 🤣

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 18:03

ControlShiftDelete · 02/05/2024 20:30

I never understood why ginger hair gets such a rough time in the UK. In my home country ginger hair is worshipped as it's such a beautiful colour.

Which country? Went to this Spanish bar, this really nice Spanish bloke started stroking my hair & asked did I come northern Spain ☺️

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 17:57

Probably jealous of your hair or something else about you

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 17:57

utilitarianism · 02/05/2024 20:15

I'd suspect she knew you were in the room and said it specifically as a dig at you, but maybe I'm just paranoid. 😅

Anyway, yes, it was obviously a rude thing to say, regardless of who was in the room. For all she knows, anyone listening might have a family member or other loved one with red hair. Would she have said similar about any other physical feature.

She's made herself sound shallow and stupid. Embarrassing for her!

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Mt61 · 04/05/2024 17:40

WillJeSuis · 02/05/2024 15:25

I'm ginger and honestly I am relieved that my daughter isn't. It's probably a bit shit of me but I'm still a bit traumatised by bullying I endured in childhood and would not want her to go through that.

That is such a shame!

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 17:12

BettyNora · 02/05/2024 11:53

I'd call it right out and be very vocal. And I am very quiet, non confrontational but am ginger. And I find it genuinely upsetting. I've had children picked on by teachers for it even. She should be ashamed.

Should be sacked

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/05/2024 15:12

Bushra, I'm not coming at you, honestly. Your post was one of the last that I read and it was kind of the last straw. I really do apologise if it seemed that I was singling you out, I wasn't, but I can see how it seemed. Sorry.

There are many, many posts on this thread fetishising ginger/red hair, wishing that they'd had ginger babies and the like. Wrapping up criticism of people with any other colour hair in their posts also and that's not on.

I had ginger hair as a child, then it went an auburn brown colour but not enough to warrant name-calling, there were other things for that. If people didn't make comments on appearance themselves and taught their children not to either -with consequences if they did - all of this would have been stamped out eons ago. Hair colour is just that, a colour, one of many. This really isn't a lighthearted subject because at the root of it is bullying.

Most parents don't allow their children to vocalise insults on skin colour, it's not acceptable and decent people challenge it. So should it be for red hair, it doesn't deserve comment but nor should it need elevating, it's like marking a child as different and putting target on them which is surely the last thing anybody wants or needs.

Bushra385 · 04/05/2024 14:20

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/05/2024 12:50

and there we are... you're doing the same thing. What's so amazing about x y z colour? Just stop it. You're giving arseholes every reason to come back at whatever you're making a fetish of and really denigrating it. You're part of the problem if you do that.

All hair colours are acceptable. Why would anybody think anything else? That's the message that needs to be dinned into people's heads.

I’m not fetishising anything … my last few comments were lighthearted , I’m sure most people got it . I love my dark brown hair. So no need to come at me.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/05/2024 12:53

It is really hard to read this thread knowing that most if not all of you are women and you probably have children who have to put up with your 'protection' and judgements, in equal measure.

All you're doing is ensuring that this nonsense carries on and you will achieved the very thing you say you don't want. How ridiculous is that?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/05/2024 12:50

Bushra385 · 03/05/2024 18:13

Why are people so mean and stupid ?
I think ginger is beautiful and red hair in general . Im envious of such vivid locks . People should be proud of their hair and complexions but it must be hard to ignore such ignorance at times . What’s so amazing about brown hair ?? Being south Asian that’s our usual option 😂

and there we are... you're doing the same thing. What's so amazing about x y z colour? Just stop it. You're giving arseholes every reason to come back at whatever you're making a fetish of and really denigrating it. You're part of the problem if you do that.

All hair colours are acceptable. Why would anybody think anything else? That's the message that needs to be dinned into people's heads.

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 10:46

CammyChameleon · 03/05/2024 19:52

When I was pregnant with DS1 (mine and DH's first child), my SIL joked to my husband "OMG, let's hope he's not ginger, can you imagine?" Then turned to me, looked at my light ginger hair as though she'd never noticed it before, and awkwardly tried to backtrack...

DS1 and DS2 are both ginger - DS1 especially so, very thick red curls that he likes to keep long. He gets the piss taken occasionally at school, but also gets stopped in the street and complimented by women. I tell him the piss takers are just upset that they look so boring and forgettable.

Your SIL is a stupid woman

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 10:42

Flufferblub · 02/05/2024 17:50

I was bullied as a child for my ginger hair. People said awful things to me. Kids and adults. Some children with ginger hair have committed suicide from relentless bullying, so it definitely needs to stop and be taken seriously.

Yes I saw a few years ago a young girl hung herself in the woods, she was stunning, if she could have learned to love her red hair ( because I hated mine when I was younger) where would she be now? a model perhaps 😩

Misthios · 04/05/2024 10:41

exaltedwombat · 03/05/2024 18:36

Is 'gingerism' really a thing? I guess so. I've always seen it as just a joke, like slagging off the Welsh or the Belgians.

Yeah that's the lazy "it's just banter" thing that people come out with when they are being really offensive and don't care who they're offending. "Slagging off" people because of their nationality or hair colour really isn't acceptable, is it?

Mt61 · 04/05/2024 10:36

abracadabra1980 · 02/05/2024 11:51

I'm a lot older than you and picking on people with ginger (red) hair has always been a 'thing'. Why, I don't know, but it is just as bad as being racist, or any other predjudice, making others feel uncomfortable or upset (could also go as far as bullying) and the perpetrators should be called out in the same way.

I think it’s because it’s a rare colour we are picked on- I always had a red, shiny bob, loads of compliments, best compliment,a woman said to my boyfriend at the time, your girlfriend has the best head of hair I have ever seen on female 😊huge green eyes too.
I remember a girl in my class, stuck a lump of chewing gum in my hair, had to have it cut out.. jump to yrs later, same girl now with a shiny, red bob 🤔said I thought you hated ginger hair? Well her reply was she was so envious of my hair all along😩you can’t say certain things about ethnic minorities, it’s deemed a hate crime but people can say derogatory things about us gingers & it ok- well it’s not ok! I will never dye my hair to fit in with what is deemed to be normal. Love, love my hair 🤩

Speakyminder · 04/05/2024 02:22

My baby boy has ginger hair and vivid blue eyes- he is so striking and gets (lovely) comments wherever we go.

However, my MIL frequently laments his hair and has made comments about dying it since he was born. His thick, red hair fell out about 2 months after he was born and then she became convinced he was going to be blonde. It grew back the same colour and she was gutted.

She HATES the fact that people ‘always have to comment on his hair’ when she takes him out and I love that it winds her up! He’s totally gorgeous and she’s a prejudice cow.

UtredSonOfUtred · 04/05/2024 01:12

Both my DC have ginger hair and I’ll be honest, I struggled a bit at first. DC1 was born strawberry blond and DC2 was born white blonde. Over time they both went incredibly vibrant ginger. Almost orange. Nothing subtle about it. I had to teach myself to like it if I’m being hand-on-heart honest. I think they are both absolutely gorgeous and I love them more than I could ever express. But it’s taken me a while to truly love their hair, and I do have moments where I really worry they’ll be picked on at secondary school. They go to a lovely primary school right now where they both have lots of friends and nobody has said anything negative about their hair. I also agree with a previous poster who said the tide seems to be slowly turning and ginger hair is not seen as quite so negative as it was maybe 15-20 years ago.

However I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before some idiot says something to one of my DC, and all I can do is build their self esteem up now so that when it happens, they can be brave enough not take it to heart. It makes me so upset and anxious though to think of them experiencing this kind of bullying.

I’ve had moments in the past where I’ve felt it’s a shame that they have ginger hair because they’re both so good looking, that was the one thing that “let them down”. I have also felt guilty that it was mine and DH’s genes that have caused them to have an appearance that might cause them to be ridiculed in future. I feel terribly ashamed of myself for thinking like that now, I have never and would never say out loud any of the things I’ve said here, and I’m intentional every day with the compliments I give them both for their hair but also for their character traits. I hope they grow up knowing that their looks are the least important thing about them.

TobaccoFlower · 04/05/2024 00:41

SwingTheMonkey · 03/05/2024 22:12

Erm… I’d think the responses to this thread were testament to the changing tide? I didn’t think what I’d said was that controversial?
There is a changing opinion to red hair. My kids don’t know anything about taking the piss out of ginger haired folk and I’m sure we’re not the only ones.

Same at dd's school thankfully. Ginger bullying isnt a thing. They see it as something older generations did. They are more tolerant in many ways than when I was a kid.
I assumed that was the norm among young people, but it looks like some posters are saying they live in areas where there are still thick/nasty people bullying kids for characteristics they have no control over. Poor them.

HangryOliveMentor · 03/05/2024 22:34

SwingTheMonkey · 03/05/2024 22:12

Erm… I’d think the responses to this thread were testament to the changing tide? I didn’t think what I’d said was that controversial?
There is a changing opinion to red hair. My kids don’t know anything about taking the piss out of ginger haired folk and I’m sure we’re not the only ones.

I don’t think it’s dying out at all. If this thread had (somehow) existed 50 years ago, I’m sure it would have had similar responses.

SwingTheMonkey · 03/05/2024 22:12

Dartwarbler · 03/05/2024 21:52

What tide?
people having negative views of ginger hair is no lessor more common than 50 years ago.
my grandma as a red head
a school friend in my preteens was red headed
2 other school friend in my secondary were red heads, but one of them had 4 red headed sisters, all of different shades from copper to strawberry blond
One of my son is red head and now red bearded

all had negative comments by some people,and other people comment on how lovely it is. Those people span 4 generations!

red hair is rare so always gets noticed and some people seem to think it’s ok to make comments, stereotypes or judgement about.

now If you’re talking back to pre 1200 century, particularly women, then fair do, but even Elizabeth I was red haired and generally admired for it, as was her father.

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Erm… I’d think the responses to this thread were testament to the changing tide? I didn’t think what I’d said was that controversial?
There is a changing opinion to red hair. My kids don’t know anything about taking the piss out of ginger haired folk and I’m sure we’re not the only ones.

Dartwarbler · 03/05/2024 21:52

SwingTheMonkey · 02/05/2024 11:41

Of course YANBU! I feel like the tide is slowly turning with regards to people’s perception of red hair but there are still assholes about. My husband has red hair and I was over the moon when my daughter was born with similar colour but it’s now light brown!

What tide?
people having negative views of ginger hair is no lessor more common than 50 years ago.
my grandma as a red head
a school friend in my preteens was red headed
2 other school friend in my secondary were red heads, but one of them had 4 red headed sisters, all of different shades from copper to strawberry blond
One of my son is red head and now red bearded

all had negative comments by some people,and other people comment on how lovely it is. Those people span 4 generations!

red hair is rare so always gets noticed and some people seem to think it’s ok to make comments, stereotypes or judgement about.

now If you’re talking back to pre 1200 century, particularly women, then fair do, but even Elizabeth I was red haired and generally admired for it, as was her father.

8misskitty8 · 03/05/2024 21:36

She might be eating her words soon. No guarantee her child will keep their dark hair.
My Dd was born with a mass of straight dark hair. It then fell out and grew back in curly and Ginger.

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