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AIBU to hope that able bodied people will support disabled people against the tory attack on PIP?

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Blackcats7 · 02/05/2024 10:13

I have just been reading posts from many terrified disabled people on a facebook group I belong to.
People are afraid for their lives after the government's recent announcement to stop huge numbers of people with mental health issues qualifying for PIP anymore.
This attempt to scapegoat disabled people has a long history in the tory party and is popular with their traditional core but the attack on PIP is a new low.
Even those claiming PIP for other reasons think they will be the next target and that the tory aim is to pretty much eradicate any support for us with the half hearted usual disguise of "concentrating help on those who need it most" when they know they can't get away with saying what they actually are doing.
Disabled people have votes too (being housebound I thank goodness for postal votes) and I think this current tactic will have a big influence on how those votes are used but my question is how many able bodied people will take this attack on us into account when it comes to the election?
Should this nightmare come to pass there will be blood on government hands because I have no doubt people will die bearing in mind the targets are people with mental health problems and the tory propaganda that they are removing a right to benefit from those who feel a little bit depressed and anxious about life as most people will at some point or another is utter nonsense. Claiming PIP is extremely hard and requires a very high bar to succeed, especially for mental health. Popping to your gp for some anti depressants would not cut it.
So we need your support.
YABU we aren't that bothered or think the govenment is quite right to stop you scrounging bastards
YANBU this is disgusting ableism and we have your back

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Cygnetmad · 02/05/2024 10:43

you should read the other threads here about PIP. so much hatred to those with disabilities who need support. I doubt it.

I bet it won't be getting any better under Labour too. I have a child who will never work. it's terrifying.

Summerhillsquare · 02/05/2024 10:37

YNBU but actually both sides have it all wrong. The emphasis should be on targetting employers to make jobs and workplaces accessible to all. Most disable people want to work, they just can't find employers willing to accomodate some changes - so really its just enforcing the Disability Discrimination Act properly.

Also employers could stop offering us mindfulness and wellbeing apps, and stop putting so much pressure on us that we crumble. Good work is the answer, not more shitty work.

starlingcook · 02/05/2024 10:34

It's because disabled people are linked to benefits and working people resent people on benefits, there are a few people who play on disability to get out of work and that gives all benefit recipients a bad name.
I have CFS and although they can force me to look for work, if I'm not fit for work then I'm not going to be able to do the job.
Just getting to work if I manage that will leave me unable to do any work once there, I could need days to recover.
I think apart from the disabled suffering it's unfair on the workplaces who have to waste time interviewing people who are unable to do the job and then they will be unable to let them go through the disability act.
It doesn't help anyone but makes the abled feel better about going to work.

mossylog · 02/05/2024 10:21

It's obvious that the whole system is designed to be cruel and punishing to dissuade people. It's all so unnecessary.