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MIL problems since having baby - AIBU?

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AquaPearl9 · 02/05/2024 03:54

Hi all

Ever since having my baby who is 9 weeks old, I feel increasingly uncomfortable around my MIL but I don’t know if I’m being sensitive.

First of all, everytime I take my baby to see MIL, she takes her either from me or removes her from the pram or car seat without asking. At first I didn’t think anything of this but the more it happened the more I realised she is the only person who does this. My own mother would never do this nor would any other family members. I think I really noticed it when she woke her up while she was fast asleep in her car seat, I was so upset as she was comfortable where she was and we had literally just stepped in the house. She isn’t a doll nor is she her property. This always happens within seconds of me walking in her house, she doesn’t acknowledge me anymore, just immediately takes the baby from me.

When she takes her from me without asking, she then takes her off into other rooms, usually while I’m busy so that she has her “all to herself”. I feel uncomfortable about this as I can’t see or hear my baby while she whisks her off elsewhere and she is still so young. I think she thinks she is doing me a favour but the more she does it, the more nervous I am and I think it’s totally out of order separating a baby from their mother without permission. Again, no other family members have done this. I have caught her kissing the baby on the lips - I told my partner who said he didn’t notice at the time but seemed quite upset when I told him. We feel strongly about not kissing babies on lips, I told him in the hope that he would say something politely to her but in all honestly I don’t think he ever would. There have been times when I have been feeding the baby (I am EBF), soon as she is finished her feed, here comes MIL taking her straight from me without me even burping her or seeing that she is ok. She never asks, she just takes her away and I stupidly let her. She will also pass the baby around to other people without asking, including very young children who I definitely don’t want holding the baby without my supervision.

Now this is where I’m not sure if I’m being sensitive but she has recently started insulting me in front of other people, criticising things I can’t change about myself that I won’t go into detail but I feel she is trying to create competition and is bitter about something so is using it against me and trying to put me down.

Has anyone experienced this since having a Baby? It seems to be getting worse everytime I see her and I feel so uncomfortable. My MIL is a strong character and others have made comments about her. I have always accepted her for who she was but now I feel like she acts totally weird around the baby and is so possessive as if it is her daughter. I get so anxious the days leading up to seeing her then afterwards I can’t stop thinking about all the inappropriate things she has done or said. I am worried about how to approach this with my partner because after all, it is his mother and I don’t want to cause any upset as we have never had any issues in the past (Years of biting my tongue!)

OP posts:
WhistPie · 02/05/2024 12:13

Stop being such a doormat and stand up for your baby, and yourself.

Whatifthehokeycokey · 02/05/2024 11:55

You need to discover, and channel, your inner mama bear. You're a Mum now. You are stronger than you think. You have a tiny baby now and it's your responsibility to protect her and set boundaries. Practise with your MIL.

If you fall out, you fall out. You have far more power in this situation than you realise, because she wants a close relationship with her grandchild.

Inkyblue123 · 02/05/2024 11:29

Wear the baby in a sling.

PoppingTomorrow · 02/05/2024 11:07

Venturini · 02/05/2024 06:10

Stop going to see her. If she wants to see the baby she waits to be invited to yours and then you call all the shots. Tell your partner to grow a spine and to ensure she treats you with some respect and consideration. Or I would be telling her to fuck off frankly.

This.

She knows exactly what she's doing. Your partner needs to have your back.

cheddercherry · 02/05/2024 11:05

You need to shift your perspective that your baby can’t voice her discomfort at being woken up/ moved and potentially being given a deadly virus from being kissed so you need to advocate for her and protect her.

I’d question why your parter isn’t sticking up for you when she’s insulting you and if this woman is someone neither of you feel able to challenge then you both need to take a step back from visiting so often and putting yourselves in these positions if you won’t challenge her.

VJBR · 02/05/2024 10:35

Why don't you stop visiting her for a while. It is women like her who give mother in laws a bad name.

TonTonMacoute · 02/05/2024 10:07

I don’t want to cause any upset as we have never had any issues in the past (Years of biting my tongue!)

You mean you have let DP and his family walk all over you, and now they take it for granted that they can do what they want.

Yes, it's probably going to cause an argument, but just be clear and straight with her.

Marghogeth · 02/05/2024 09:57

Woman up! Your baby needs you to advocate for them. Sod other people's feelings and stand up for yourself. You know it's not right - what's stopping you from being mama bear?

botheredand · 02/05/2024 09:47

Don't let this happen! Say no, stop her before she gets to the baby. If you're feeding your child and she decides they're done, say no!

If you had a cup of tea in your hand and she took it away and poured it down the drain with no explanation, would you let it go? You'd ask why, or try to take it back. So why let your child be taken away?

anonqrtb · 02/05/2024 09:28

Echoing other posters, its time to pull up your big girl pants and start saying NO.

You are your tiny babies only advocate - so do it for her. Youve mentioned things on your post that are of a detriment to your baby, such as waking her up out her car seat or not allowing her to be burped - or worst of all kissing on her lips!!!

Time for some tough love - if your not going to speak up for yourself, do it for your daughter. You are her voice, and you will need to be her voice for atleast the next 16 years, so grow a back bone and advocate for your child!!!!

ButterCrackers · 02/05/2024 09:27

Tell her no as your first word in the phrase. No leave my baby sleeping. No do not pick her up. Tell her that until she agrees to stop kissing your baby on the lips she cannot hold your child.

35965a · 02/05/2024 09:24

It’s really difficult but you need to just say it. When she does things you don’t like or affect your baby just say it. She might get upset but she’s upsetting you and also seems to be escalating by criticising you in front of people so you need to be brave and stick up for yourself. Worst case scenario you piss her off. But is that the worst thing in the world when she’s being awful? I don’t think so!

Ultravox · 02/05/2024 09:21

You need to start speaking up. It sounds like she is absolutely overbearing but how will she know that these acts aren’t acceptable to you if you don’t tell her?

As for the insults- call her out on it every time. Pretend you didn’t hear and ask her to repeat it. And then pretend you didn’t understand and ask her to repeat it again until her rudeness & meanness is right out in the open.

Takeaways · 02/05/2024 09:16

Find your inner mother bear. Say no, she is comfortable where she is. If it's easier, wearing baby in a carrier that she can't be grabbed out of is a workable solution.

Shinyandnew1 · 02/05/2024 08:12

she has recently started insulting me in front of other people, criticising things I can’t change about myself

Shat sort of things is she saying? What do you or your husband say?

You really need to speak up and react when she insults you and stop her when she tries to take the baby.

If you are going round there without your husband-stop. If she asks why, he can tell her. You have power here!

gertrudeteacake · 02/05/2024 08:08

Use your voice! Stop caring what your MIL will think if you do. It's none of your business what she thinks. Your baby needs you to find your voice.

XFiler · 02/05/2024 08:08

I’m mil and have never acted like this around my gc.She sounds awful, you really need to assert yourself, I know as a naturally passive person this is hard for you but she needs very firm boundaries and your dh doesn’t have your back. I would very much be limiting the time you see her, dh will have to see her alone.

Isthisjustnormal · 02/05/2024 08:07

Another though op: I had to do this a bit when by first was born and it was hard as my PIL are lovely and well intentioned, and Dh is trained to be very non confrontational with them. But there was stuff they were doing that meant I was getting frustrated. Mentally, I reminded myself that getting the boundries right at this stage would mean that the relationship with my PIL would be stronger for longer, rather than risking not speaking up and then getting increasingly furious. It’s really worked: 20 years on I have a great relationship with them; they joke about my boundries but are aware of and respect them. They talk about having changed their mind about things I (& now the kids!) challenge them gently on.

Hankunamatata · 02/05/2024 08:02

You need to speak up. Mil may be over stepping but she won't know unless you say something.

Justsomethoughts · 02/05/2024 07:59

DrJoanAllenby · 02/05/2024 07:19

Why would you just stand their like a limp lettuce whilst she prizes YOUR baby out of your arms or pram and takes her away?

Unless you find your backbone then this will continue.

Is this a helpful way to speak to a newly postpartum mother 🤔

OP - you obviously find it difficult to assert yourself around your MIL. Babies change the relationship completely and (I mean this kindly as I felt exactly the same… you are hormonal and vulnerable at the moment).

Have some stock phrases ready as others have suggested:

’baby is comfy there- please can we leave her there until she has finished her nap’

‘I’ve got her for now, she can come for grandma cuddles soon’

‘Aww best for baby to come to mummy when they are crying’ (if MIL tries to comfort baby and you’d rather do it- I used to find this)

’please can baby stay in the room so I can see her’ (I used to hate it when people would walk my baby off into another room! I don’t understand why people do it!)

As others have said. You need to start being clear and firm sooner rather than later

Isthisjustnormal · 02/05/2024 07:56

Yup, as others have said you need to take some control here: it’s going to be tough as you’ve ’put up’ so long but it’s definitely doable :-)

id do a few things:

  • first talk to your partner: you need them to be ready to back you up if needed : you don’t mention how your Dh feels about his mum, but I’d personally talk about getting boundries clear now so that everything is smoother in the future. The risk of you ignore now is that she’ll keep pushing and eventually you’ll explode!
  • practice some easy things to do/say. You know what the issues are now so come up with some phrases you feel comfortable with or some actions you can take. Maybe start with some easy ones eg
  • when she goes to take baby ‘just a moment, I just need to do x then s/he’s all yours for a lovely cuddle (until I need to do x’
  • when she leaves the room - follow ‘it’s so strong isn’t it the mother bear instinct: whilst she’s so little i hate her being out of my sight’ - similar with passing to other people ‘oh, is xx having a cuddle now, just let me come over and I can talk you through what’s she likes’
  • if she says she’s giving you a break ‘I know I will in time but right now I just don’t want a break from her at all’
  • if she insults you ‘gosh, I hope that came out ruder than you meant it to MIL’
  • juat walked in ‘ she’s just got off to sleep so let’s not disturb her. Let’s grab some tea until she wakes up’. I’d also say a pointed hello/morning/lovely to see you if she ignores you.
  • the kissing one, I’d raise again with Dh and get him to tackle it: and just check in with him until he does.
these things don’t have to be a confrontation at least at first from you: just a subtle redirection. If she pushes back then you’ll need to be firmer I’m afraid. But you’ve been the one who was reasonable first ;-)
Damnthedieteatingdoritos · 02/05/2024 07:56

Use your voice. If you don't want your MIL to take your DD just say no. If she ignores your requests, pack up and leave her house - and tell her why and that her behaviour towards you and your DD needs to improve or youll be limiting visits. I get she might be an overexcited gran but her excitement should not be at the expense of your wellbeing.

And your DH needs to back you up!

CrocsAreNext · 02/05/2024 07:49

My heart goes out to you OP. You sound lovely and I know how difficult it is to start being assertive if you've bitten your tongue for years.

However, it's crucial to set boundaries now with your MIL Your daughter's lifelong wellbeing depends on it, as well as your own. In a nutshell, this means you say no to everything you've mentioned in your OP, and you stick to it.

I leaned all about boundaries in my 30s when I allowed myself to be treated badly in a relationship. I educated myself about what reasonable boundaries were and how to assert them. It was the start of the rest of my life.

You can do this too OP. It will be so empowering and liberating to feel in control of your interactions with your MIL. All your anxieties and rumination will stop once your boundaries are firmly in place and are non-negotiable.

Just be prepared for pushback from MIL - and, crucially, ignore it. One of the most valuable lessons I learned was "people with weak boundaries often react badly when people with strong boundaries assert those boundaries". You may get tears, anger, tantrums, pleading, sulking, silent treatment, insults etc from your MIL and she may go crying to your partner. Ignore it all, however difficult you may find it to start with. It is essential for your and your daughter's long-term health and happiness that you do this.

You can do this OP. All the very best.

KeepYourFingersOutOfMySoup · 02/05/2024 07:37

I think you need to stand up for your baby and yourself here op. It doesn't have to be a battle, just to assert that you are her mother and you do mind when she does these things.

Just walked in - leave her there I'd like her to sleep for a bit, let's have a cuppa in peace while we can.

Just finished feeding, she goes to take her - shift position, cuddle baby over shoulder, stand up etc, make conversation with mil for a minute. Then ask if she'd like a hold, carry on convo so she doesn't walk off.

Kissing - politely but firmly say it - mil, can you please not kiss baby's lips/face, we (note the 'we') don't like it while she's so young and vulnerable. Any pushback, just repeat.

Don't apologise.

I once chased my (lovely, but overenthusiastic) mil down the street so I could walk with her when I realised she had taken my 2 week old baby out in the pram without even saying anything to me or dh. Mad of us both, perhaps, but she didn't overstep like that again...

BlueMum16 · 02/05/2024 07:36

Your MIL is doing what you allow

Baby is asleep leave them be
Baby is feeding you may hold later
Tell her to sit down and you pass her the baby .

Start taking back control. Your babyz your rules. DH will work it out.

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