Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To forcibly ask why you pulled out?

394 replies

MyPeachLion · 01/05/2024 19:25

I am (was!) a cash buyer of a 900k property. We were due to exchange next week. And complete after 2 weeks. We went 30k above asking and 20k above another bidder. No other bidder was a cash buyer. We are about 10 weeks into the sale.

My solicitor informs me this afternoon that the seller pulled out with NO reason given.

Can I turn up to the seller's house and ask the seller face to face why they pulled out? AIBU?

The estage agent did not even bother to inform me, despite the seller telling them last weekend that he was cancelling.

No chain on the seller's end - they have a new build they have already moved into! Seller moved out of their property early last week. We know because we visited the house for kitchen measurements last week!

I rang the EA this morning to get dates so I can get carpet quotes for next week and the EA was on board! Not once did he mention that the seller pulled out.

I am pissed off for not knowing why he pulled out, and for the EA to not inform me of it, and then proceed to play me like a fool by humouring my requests for carpet tradesmen to enter next week.
Were they meant to enter through the cat flap?

Again, is it unreasonable to just face this time-wasting seller and ask them why?

OP posts:
BusyMintCrab · 01/05/2024 20:29

That is the nature of buying and selling property. Hopefully you find something else soon.

Lifeisapeach · 01/05/2024 20:28

My heart bleeds it really does. You have seen a house you want and can’t have. I’m sure you’ll live to tell the tale.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 01/05/2024 20:27

Why do you have 900k cash?

LindorDoubleChoc · 01/05/2024 20:25

People change their minds, unfortunately. It happens in about 30% of house sales (from either side).

TheTartfulLodger · 01/05/2024 20:25

Buyers are allowed to pull out. You are not owed an explanation. If it's because his wife or child has tragically died do you really think he wants you on the doorstep demanding answers about why you can't measure up for your new carpets?

NonPlayerCharacter · 01/05/2024 20:25

The reason will be that they no longer believe the sale to be advantageous to them in some way. I really sympathise, it's a nightmare, but there isn't any answer they can give you that you'll deem satisfactory, unless maybe it involves terrible tragedy and then you'll probably think they're lying.

I don't blame you for being furious and fantasising about confronting them, but don't actually do it. They'll just be gladder still not to be doing business with you. If you absolutely must, you know the name and address and that they're not going anywhere; get them on a couple of adult baby supplies and experimental pile surgery subscriptions.

LindorDoubleChoc · 01/05/2024 20:24

Well it's frustrating - but just because you've got £900k cash doesn't make you any more deserving of an explanation than anyone else who had a sale fall through for no good reason. Try to bear that in mind.

Hotgirlwinter · 01/05/2024 20:23

I think mentioning the cost and the cash element is going to blind people from giving a true answer OP.

Of course you’re not unreasonable for being fuming and naturally a reason would make it more bearable even if it did nothing to change the situation.

The seller is within their rights and has done nothing wrong legally but any decent person would suggest their behaviour (and that of the EA) is disgusting. Being legally acceptable doesn’t mean it’s not really shit for you.

Id feel the same, and so would almost anyone in the same scenario (regardless of cost / mortgage position).

Alicewinn · 01/05/2024 20:22

Sounds mega frustrating, sorry for your emotional and financial losses.
You'll find something better soon, hope you didn't lose too much money in the process.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 01/05/2024 20:20

As much as I'd want to nuke the house I would be directing my ire at the agents who have been incredibly unprofessional - unless they didn't know themselves?

It may come to nothing but I would ask the agents for an explanation at the very least because I think the sellers have treated you very shoddily even though they do of course have the right to change their mind. Bastards, the lot of them.

ShanghaiDiva · 01/05/2024 20:19

I think it’s poor that the agent knew last week and didn’t inform you. As pp have said, nothing you can do, but very frustrating.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 01/05/2024 20:17

Higher bid?

I don’t think you can confront the seller, that’s harassment but I don’t see why you can’t ask the EA for an explanation.

OhHelloMiss · 01/05/2024 20:17

Forcibly?? 😂

You can't force anything! You move on and keep looking

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/05/2024 20:17

I can see why it’s incredibly annoying and frustrating but no you can’t go round there. That would be batshit and if you did it more than once could be harassment.

The English system is shit in that people aren’t tied in or at all accountable if they pull out. But that doesn’t mean you can go around doorstepping people. Chase the EA by phone for an explanation if anything but it won’t help you get that house. You need to just move on.

whatsappdoc · 01/05/2024 20:16

Have the EA actually spoken to you? I would get it confirmed first. And I would be absolutely gutted if that was me. We are a week away from exchange and I'd be in pieces.

Newuser75 · 01/05/2024 20:14

We had this happen to us when we were moving. It's absolutely soul destroying, and so so unfair. But.. unfortunately there isn't anything you can do about it.

poetryandwine · 01/05/2024 20:12

OP,

You did give the impression that the price if the house and the fact that you made a cash offer are relevant to the situation. They are not, and you have sadly turned sympathies against you. I am very sympsthetic even though I agree with the majority that you cannot confront the sellers.

ziipidydodah · 01/05/2024 20:10

I think you should chase for an answer! It’s just morally holding people to account - something we don't do enough, which is making society worse.

We’ve had the reverse of this. Supposed cash buyers, who offered and then ghosted us. Two separate times. What the hell is wrong with people that can’t even give a reason or communicate what is going on.

poetryandwine · 01/05/2024 20:09

Starsandflowers · 01/05/2024 19:52

Yabu
It's really entitled and self centred. No one owes you selling their home to you! Sometimes these things happen. House buying can be stressful. I've had sales fall through... it's disappointing, but never in a million years would I aggressively demand someone explain why things had gone wrong on their end.
I'm very sure there must be some serious reason.. you don't pass up 900k in cash for no good reason. Just leave them alone. Somethings gone wrong for them. Really it's none of your business. Yeah you put time and effort in but that's just how these things go sometimes.. it doesn't always work out. They don't legally or morally owe you an explanation.. they may have had some personal tragedy/occurance... you can't force them to give you the personal details of their life just to make you feel less pissed off.

I wish people would read the thread. Tragedy is less likely as the sellers gave actually moved. Accepting a higher offer really is most likely under the circs. It is unethical and it sucks. However OP is BU

ToxicChristmas · 01/05/2024 20:00

I'm sorry, that's absolutely shit and so frustrating.
Even if you went and banged on the door (which you shouldn't) you might not get an answer. Would the answer satisfy you anyway? Probably not.
There's also a good change the owner is going through some real shit. You don't pull out of a nearly complete cash sale on a whim. I'd assume that, take a deep breath and move on. You'll find somewhere else, this will be a memory and it will all be ok.
Best of luck with the new property search.

TodaysNameIsBoring · 01/05/2024 19:54

How frustrating for you. I hope you haven't spent too much on the survey etc.

It's really shitty but I don't think an explanation makes any difference. If they don't have a good explanation then they could,just make one up. It could be health, divorce, job related. Who knows but it doesn't make any difference. They might have a really good reason but the end result is the same.

My daughter was buying a place and the seller dropped out the morning after my daughter had the survey done. The seller was a yummy mummy who changed her mind but could be bothered telling my daughter until the day after.

As it turned out it worked out in my daughter's interest as she bought somewhere much better.

EmmaEmerald · 01/05/2024 19:53

I nearly pulled out of selling my old flat because I realised it was a terrible mistake to sell 🤦🏽‍♀️

Alas - I did not pull out.

If I had pulled out and they had confronted me, what would they have done with my answer? I had a nervous breakdown (not linked) while all this was going on. If someone had appeared on my doorstep it would have finished me.

If you really want to go and demand a pound of flesh, I can’t stop you. But hopefully at that price they have a decent security system. I also hope it’s not related to an illness or death or anything.

I’m guessing you didn’t get home buyers insurance? I’m also guessing you didn’t accumulate such a fabulous amount by being stupid. So why not just accept this is how the law stands now and campaign for a change in future?

Starsandflowers · 01/05/2024 19:52

Yabu
It's really entitled and self centred. No one owes you selling their home to you! Sometimes these things happen. House buying can be stressful. I've had sales fall through... it's disappointing, but never in a million years would I aggressively demand someone explain why things had gone wrong on their end.
I'm very sure there must be some serious reason.. you don't pass up 900k in cash for no good reason. Just leave them alone. Somethings gone wrong for them. Really it's none of your business. Yeah you put time and effort in but that's just how these things go sometimes.. it doesn't always work out. They don't legally or morally owe you an explanation.. they may have had some personal tragedy/occurance... you can't force them to give you the personal details of their life just to make you feel less pissed off.

poetryandwine · 01/05/2024 19:52

The OP said in her initial post that the sellers have moved out already. They aren’t postponing for reasons of health, bereavement, their finances, etc.

I agree she should not confront them but considering this information it was a shitty thing for them to di, and the EA has been a coward

WednesdayAllTheWay · 01/05/2024 19:49

You must be fuming. It's outrageous of them but I don't think turning up is a good idea at all. Ask the agent, is all you can do I think.

Swipe left for the next trending thread