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Selfridges refusing to refund £875 shoes- help!

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Shoedisastor · 01/05/2024 11:14

I ordered a pair of Louboutins on selfridges online to wear for my wedding day. This is the second pair I’ve ordered online. The first were from flannels. Ordered them tried them on, on carpet, way too big in size so I sent them back and they refunded me a couple of days later. They didn’t have the size down in stock but Selfridges did so I ordered from there. They came I tried them on, again on carpet and didn’t love them on me so took them back to the Selfridges store. The staff were really helpful and suggested I try them on in a different colour and I loved them and asked to exchange mine. They said since my shoes were an online purchase they need to go back online. Since it was only 2 weeks till my wedding I bought the new pair in store (as the tailors need me to be wearing my shoes for the final fit of my suit) and I repackaged my shoes and sent them back to Selfridges. A few days later they’ve contacted me to say they’ve rejected my return as the shoes are damaged (red sole). Ive emailed back (and called) and explained that I only tried my shoes on carpet and sent them straight back! I packaged them up in their original packaging, dust bags and packing intact exactly as they arrived to me. As I did with the first pair I returned. They were pristine when they left me. Am I going to have no choice but to accept these shoes back? (That I won’t wear and don’t suit me)

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BlackSwan · 01/05/2024 18:31

Terrible customer service. The soles look fine to me. They're very cheeky.

WhiteLily1 · 01/05/2024 18:25

StarlightLime · 01/05/2024 14:10

The burden is on them to prove you caused the damage and you didn't receive them like that
Of course it isn't.

It’s on the seller to prove for the first 6 months. Then after 6 months it’s on the buyer to prove. So in this case the seller must prove that they sold these in pristine condition.

Mumofoneandone · 01/05/2024 18:05

I've had amazing success with emailing CEO at John Lewis with a phone dispute - sorted within hours. Also had to go to Financial Ombudsman with windscreen dispute with Direct line - took time but also won!

LittleCharlotte · 01/05/2024 18:04

To add to my earlier post, the fact that you bought a second pair of shoes from Selfridge's and are keeping them adds weight to your claim IMO.

Mumofoneandone · 01/05/2024 18:01

Really tough but sometimes just have to keep fighting. Stick with your story - if the shoes weren't properly inspected (or came in sealed packages) before being sent to you then they have no way of proving you have damaged them. Sometimes a public shaming (Trustpilot or similar) works wonders.
If the soles are so delicate they need to come with a protective covering or very clear labelling.
Equally those shoes look slightly 'dented', if they had been worn anywhere other than carpet they'd surely be scuffed? Can't really figure how that damage was done?! Weird!

Cornflakelover · 01/05/2024 18:00

Shoedisastor · 01/05/2024 16:30

To answer previous posters no there was no warning sticker, or sticker on the sole, ideally there should have been because it would have saved a lot of hassle. Theres also not one on the other pair I purchased in store. So this must be when they are purchased directly from Christian Louboutin. All it says in the box of my other pair (purchased from Selfridges) is please try these on on carpet as the red sole is very fragile.

I bought a pair from Selfridges last summer and they definitely had the clear sticker on them
so It’s weird that the pair you bought don’t have them

frankentall · 01/05/2024 17:55

875 sheets for a pair of shoes?

Shadesofscarlett · 01/05/2024 17:54

open case with paypal not as described and provide tracking and escalate

Justnavigating · 01/05/2024 17:50

What a horrible thing to happen at that price !

I have no advice re returning but I would say in worst case scenario try to put them on eBay or something you might get a bit less - a few hundred maybe - but it’s better than being £875 out of pocket

LlynTegid · 01/05/2024 17:47

I suppose you have nothing to lose by trying one of the suggestions others have made.

Unfortunately the behaviour of others who claim refunds after use perhaps has led to a stricter policy.

martinisforeveryone · 01/05/2024 17:45

I’d communicate again reiterating not to return the shoes to you and enclosing both a photo of your new shoes plus receipt and saying in store would’ve accepted an exchange if the originals hadn’t been purchased online. You’ve paid out for a suitable second pair in good faith and followed instructions for trying on to the letter. Emphasise that the return is in the same condition it was received by you, the shoes are for your forthcoming wedding, not for general wear.

LadyRoughDiamond · 01/05/2024 17:42

Worst case scenario, you can probably recoup at least 90% of the retail price on Vestiaire.com. That said, I agree with everyone that says you should push for a full refund.

TheAceWoman · 01/05/2024 17:41

It's terrible marketing. It has certainly put me off buying anything from them.

RedHelenB · 01/05/2024 17:33

Justsomethoughts · 01/05/2024 13:48

When I’ve had Louboutins and worn them outside they are scratched to high heaven with even the slightest graze of the pavement! Those look resaleable to me! I’m not sure what their issue is.

Why soemd that amount if money in shoes that scratch so quickly?

RedHelenB · 01/05/2024 17:30

shrinkingbee · 01/05/2024 11:41

I had this exact problem with Louboutin's, again purchased from Selfridges online. In the end I just kept the shoes, gutted I didn't follow the dispute all the way as they are now sitting beautifully wrapped in my wardrobe for the last 2 years!

Why not try to sell them on and at least get some of your money back?

Chickenwing2 · 01/05/2024 17:28

Open a dispute through PayPal- PayPal are excellent for helping resolve issues.

I would lie and say they had these marks when you received them though.

Ophy83 · 01/05/2024 17:28

I think I would argue that they were not of satisfactory quality if you could damage them irretrievably by trying them on on carpet, and demand a refund under the Consumer Protection Act

atchoooo · 01/05/2024 17:28

To be honest, I used to work in retail and I’d fight this if I were you. You are allowed with online purchases to inspect them as you would be able to in store so trying them on is fine. Trying them on shouldn’t cause damage, but that works both ways. If they are saying that trying them on was enough to cause damage then perhaps that’s indicative of a quality issue. All of which forms a judgement which might lead a buyer to return the item after inspection

The other angle you have is that you are returning the item in the same condition you received it in, and any damage was the same on arrival.

both are similar arguments that you are ultimately returning shoes as unsuitable.

KidsandKindness · 01/05/2024 17:25

It's really getting to the point where buying online isn't worth the hassle anymore in my opinion, and if I weren't disabled, I'd go back to shopping in town. To be on the safe side, you need to be in and watching out of the window from the day after you place an order, until it's delivered into your mitts, as turn your back for a minute, and they've put a card through the door saying unable to deliver, or you get a message saying they've delivered, but you can't find it. However, they've managed to take a photo of it on your doorstep (or possibly someone elses), and then some bastard follows the van, and nicks the parcel before you've had a chance to open the door. If you should manage to get through this stage, you then have to film yourself opening the parcel, to ensure you can prove that you've actually received, (or not), what you were supposed to have, and then, after OP's experience, it seems you now have to photograph or video every little part of the item you've ordered as you get it out of the package, and before you use it, or try in on, in case it needs to go back. Then if you don't like it, or it's damaged, you need to video yourself re-packing the parcel, and sealing it up, before you can send it back. Oh, and of course, if it's collected, perhaps we should be taking a photo of us handing it to the collector, to ensure we have proof of who we gave it to! What happened to online shopping being easier???

Sorry, went off on one there, but I do hope you'll be able to get your money back OP, and if not, that you are able to put this experience behind you, and enjoy your wedding. Hope all goes well.

CelesteCunningham · 01/05/2024 17:22

I am so sceptical of the emailing a CEO thing, but I tried it recently after a lengthy dispute with a car manufacturer and had an answer and repair for free within about 3 days. I actually cried when the woman rang to say it would be fixed at no cost, and I didn't even have to go through the whole (2 year) saga again with her.

Make notes of everything - the conversation in store, every date you've had contact about them.

Give them one more chance to escalate and then send a detailed email with the dates and linking to their policies and the legal links others have provided on this thread.

Viviennemary · 01/05/2024 17:22

Maybe your best bet is to try and get a refund through PayPal or your credit card company.

Wexone · 01/05/2024 17:21

OverlyInv · 01/05/2024 17:04

And sadly if you've bought online their terms often mean you can not return in-store

You've already tried that and they said no

It's different everywhere

Also what's really annoying if you buy using PayPal and not your credit or debit card then you have to return items in a completely different way at times

It's all very annoying but I suggest you all double check the small print before buying online in future

Read her OP - One pair was bought in Flannels and returned no issue, Second pair bought on line on Selfridges and they are the ones refusing them, last paid was bough in shop

EasternStandard · 01/05/2024 17:21

OverlyInv · 01/05/2024 17:01

It's because you've returned 2 pairs

So you look like a repeat offender of buying, wearing then returning

Which in your case is very unfair because you of course did buy another pair in store as a replacement which you've surely advised them of

Sadly no law decrees that any shop where you have bought in store has to refund you

However legally if you bought online and only online then they do have to refund you

I thought the other ones were from Flannels? So they wouldn’t know

Pink39tree · 01/05/2024 17:19

Oaktree55 · 01/05/2024 17:14

For high value items take photos/video before returning

Definitely, and it’s a lesson learned. I even take pictures of my £3 parcels from Vinted 😂 however for now, unless selfridges specifically told the customer they need to photograph prior to returning something they are on just as much onus to prove the damage wasn’t caused by themselves.

Oaktree55 · 01/05/2024 17:14

Pink39tree · 01/05/2024 17:13

But what if the item was checked, no damage found. Then when item was sent back in perfect condition the damage happened because of handling back in selfridges? What proof would she have? Many of us wouldn’t photograph something that has come in perfect condition. I think it’s crazy that they have done this considering she has brought another pair of shoes from them so hardly trying to pull a fast one. I agree @ on Twitter is your best bet

For high value items take photos/video before returning