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Is it rude to go to the wake if you didn't go to the funeral?

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Justwantcookies · 01/05/2024 10:15

Not sure if I'm just over thinking this but is it a bit rude to go to the wake if you haven't made the effort to attend the funeral?

My thoughts are that if you can't make it to the funeral to pay your respects you send a condolence card/flowers or call round the persons house to see them.
It just feels a bit odd to me to rock up for drinks and buffet food to 'pay your respects'? Or am I totally being weird about this?

Dp says its normal. I'm not going but he is as its someone he knows but not close to. He could have attended the funeral if he'd arranged his work calendar better when he first found out about it, but didn't bother as said he'd just go to the wake when hes back.

I've told him thats rude. Hes told me its normal and i'm being weird.

YABU: Its fine,they won't find it rude
YANBU: If he couldn't make the effort to attend the service, he shouldn't go to the wake.

OP posts:
SamW98 · 01/05/2024 18:16

GRex · 01/05/2024 17:12

I feel remarkably strongly that this is fine, and it would be wrong to try to put him off. People coming to sympathise with the family is what matters most; I wouldn't have known who was in my DF's service anyway, but welcomed chats back at the wake. Some might feel differently, but better to have shown support if he can.

I agree. I feel really strongly that it’s a pretty normal scenario and if the family are happy with it, I can not begin to understand how it’s considered rude.

twoforj0y · 01/05/2024 18:16

No! You can to the removals, the funeral, the wake, a combo of them or all three and it's fine.

frogswimming · 01/05/2024 18:15

I don't think it's rude. Funerals are often family only with more people showing up after.

Catterbat · 01/05/2024 18:06

I’m really surprised by the number of people saying it’s not rude. I think it’s incredibly rude and I’m not usually bothered by these sort of things. It just looks like you can’t be arsed actually engaging with the fact that someone has died and people are grieving, and are just treating it as a social event. An absolute no.

Applescruffle · 01/05/2024 17:57

Its rude AF in my opinion. Really tacky behaviour.

LlynTegid · 01/05/2024 17:53

I think it depends on how close you were to the deceased and sometimes practicalities.

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 17:52

Needanewname42 · 01/05/2024 17:04

The meaning of wake in Ireland is different to the rest of the UK.

As I said like its like pants, to some they go on before your trousers 👖 to others they are your trousers. Nobody's wrong the words have evolved to have different meanings in different places.

Ahem the rest of the UK? I think you mean different in Ireland to the UK ☺️

Changingplace · 01/05/2024 17:14

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 16:29

Well it's not because Wake means to stay with the deceased in their home before they are buried/cremated. It's not another word for the afters of a funeral that can be used interchangeably and have the same meaning 🤷🏻‍♀️
Clearly in the UK it's common for people to use it incorrectly
In Ireland generally it would be unusual to not attend the funeral but come to the afters

Neither is wrong, it simply has a different meaning. Nobody in England calls the gathering following a funeral service the afters, it’s simply a different description, no need for either to be branded incorrect.

GRex · 01/05/2024 17:12

I feel remarkably strongly that this is fine, and it would be wrong to try to put him off. People coming to sympathise with the family is what matters most; I wouldn't have known who was in my DF's service anyway, but welcomed chats back at the wake. Some might feel differently, but better to have shown support if he can.

sandyhappypeople · 01/05/2024 17:07

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 16:29

Well it's not because Wake means to stay with the deceased in their home before they are buried/cremated. It's not another word for the afters of a funeral that can be used interchangeably and have the same meaning 🤷🏻‍♀️
Clearly in the UK it's common for people to use it incorrectly
In Ireland generally it would be unusual to not attend the funeral but come to the afters

It is used for both in the uk:

  1. COUNTABLE NOUN [usually singular]A wake is a gathering or social event that is held before or after someone's funeral.
A funeral wake was in progress.

it May not be the traditional meaning or usage but it’s now commonly used enough to be in various types of the English dictionary

Needanewname42 · 01/05/2024 17:04

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 16:29

Well it's not because Wake means to stay with the deceased in their home before they are buried/cremated. It's not another word for the afters of a funeral that can be used interchangeably and have the same meaning 🤷🏻‍♀️
Clearly in the UK it's common for people to use it incorrectly
In Ireland generally it would be unusual to not attend the funeral but come to the afters

The meaning of wake in Ireland is different to the rest of the UK.

As I said like its like pants, to some they go on before your trousers 👖 to others they are your trousers. Nobody's wrong the words have evolved to have different meanings in different places.

Needanewname42 · 01/05/2024 16:49

@notedbiscuits that's a totally different scenario. And the intent was there to get to the funeral.

I know of someone who back in the days before mobiles, rocked up at a funeral. We don't recognise these folk. They'd got the time wrong, so sat respectfully through a complete strangers funeral .

crumbledog · 01/05/2024 16:33

TiredandKnackeredand · 01/05/2024 16:19

lol but it’s definitely rude

It’d be rude for a reception-only guest to turn up to the main ceremony, let alone some total randomer who didn’t even make it to the disco 😆

I can remember as a kid 70s / 80s people doing this, they mostly stood outside the church watching the ‘happy couple’ but some would go inside
Communities were smaller, everyone knew each other and it was a public event.

Sockmate123 · 01/05/2024 16:29

It's rude. To go to any food reception when you haven't attended the ceremony is very bad manners unless a very good genuine reason.

Also, a wake refers to when the person is 'waked' at home or in a funeral home, usually an open coffin where people come and pay their respects. I think you are referring to the reception afterwards with food etc

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 16:29

Needanewname42 · 01/05/2024 14:59

Lot of discussion over the work wake, it's a bit like pants means different things in different places.
Nobody's right, Nobody's wrong just different.

Personally I think the reception, wake, tea after the funeral is a more private space for the family and close friends than the actual funeral.
They are generally held in a venue because nobody has space or the capacity cater tons of people back to the house.

It's not that unusual for acquaintance to get away from work for an hour or two to attend the actual funeral (assuming they are local)

I think it's quiet rude to turn up to what's basically a private function if you don't know the family that well.

Well it's not because Wake means to stay with the deceased in their home before they are buried/cremated. It's not another word for the afters of a funeral that can be used interchangeably and have the same meaning 🤷🏻‍♀️
Clearly in the UK it's common for people to use it incorrectly
In Ireland generally it would be unusual to not attend the funeral but come to the afters

Sunnyday777 · 01/05/2024 16:26

I don’t feel it’s rude. A friend of DS lost his mum and DS couldn’t get time off work. He went to the wake afterwards to support his friend. Nothing at all was thought of it and all afternoon people were coming and going (we were there also but we’d been to the funeral)

The wakes I’ve attended have been full of good memories being shared, laughs and reminiscing, quite a positive atmosphere after the funeral. I don’t think it’s as formal as it used to be. Especially as it’s someone he just used to drink with now and then, I wouldn’t think anything of someone popping in after to pay their respects.

Hobbesmanc · 01/05/2024 16:22

Gosh. Funeral etiquette is so diverse. In England at least, the wake is post funeral. It's generally in a local pub or function room with a finger buffet and the funeral celebrant generally invites everyone at the end of the service.

If I wasn't able to attend the funeral due to work commitments etc and it was morning or early afternoon then I'd not attend the wake. But if I knew family or the deceased socially, I'd definitely pop in to the wake after work if it was in a local pub or hotel just to say hello and join in the celebration of a life. But I appreciate everyone grieves differently

Changingplace · 01/05/2024 16:21

Ochrecushion · 01/05/2024 15:53

As the deceased person is someone he used to speak to occasionally but hasn’t in over 3 years , I find it odd that he wants to attend. I recently organised a funeral for a family member. The bar restaurant providing the meal after the crematorium did a head count and the bill was based on that. I would have been puzzled to say the least if the head count included folk who hadn’t been around for years and then bypassed the funeral service .

I find a meal at a wake a strange concept, all funerals I’ve ever attended have been a buffet style rather than providing people a sit down meal.

Over and above that, I think it’s entirely common for people who maybe haven’t been in touch in recent times to still attend a funeral, people lose touch but it doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t want to pay their respects.

TiredandKnackeredand · 01/05/2024 16:21

godmum56 · 01/05/2024 16:10

Its only rude if you do this

This reminds me of Miley Cyrus singing at Pete Davidson in the wake of Kim-gate and rumours of his huge appendage 😆

SpaSpa · 01/05/2024 16:21

I am Irish and live in England, I don’t think it’s rude.

notedbiscuits · 01/05/2024 16:20

My dad missed a cousin's funeral last year. His sat nav played up and he couldn't find the crematorium. He thought Gedling Crematorium was in Gedling. It's actually about 3-4 miles away. Name is misleading. Should be called North Nottingham Crematorium.

He turned up to the wake apologising. He wasn't the only relative that missed the funeral.

He had various numbers for other relatives attending the funeral but didn't want to ring them as everyone had phone on silent or switched off which is the norm for a funeral. Plus 100% respectful.

TiredandKnackeredand · 01/05/2024 16:19

PianPianPiano · 01/05/2024 16:07

Yes, but legally anyone can attend a wedding ceremony held in a church, they are considered public events. So whilst it rarely happens, anybody can in theory turn up to your wedding and there's nothing you can do about it!

lol but it’s definitely rude

It’d be rude for a reception-only guest to turn up to the main ceremony, let alone some total randomer who didn’t even make it to the disco 😆

Changingplace · 01/05/2024 16:18

At my mums funeral nobody would’ve minded someone coming along for either the funeral, the wake, either or, or both. And actually I doubt anyone would’ve noticed either, nobody is taking a register!

If someone is coming to show their respects and to support the family it’s a weird thing to start getting offended about imo, I had much bigger things to worry about.

godmum56 · 01/05/2024 16:10

SamW98 · 01/05/2024 15:56

@Needanewname42

I’d disagree that a wedding is a public event. To me it’s strict invite only. I would say turning up uninvited to a wedding ceremony or funeral is far ruder than going to a wake but suppose it’s different customers for different people.

Its only rude if you do this

Yvonne Fair - It Should Have Been Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCU0h8iR_Dw

PianPianPiano · 01/05/2024 16:07

SamW98 · 01/05/2024 15:56

@Needanewname42

I’d disagree that a wedding is a public event. To me it’s strict invite only. I would say turning up uninvited to a wedding ceremony or funeral is far ruder than going to a wake but suppose it’s different customers for different people.

Yes, but legally anyone can attend a wedding ceremony held in a church, they are considered public events. So whilst it rarely happens, anybody can in theory turn up to your wedding and there's nothing you can do about it!

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