To want to praise the police - London sword attack

What a deeply unpleasant post when people have put their life on the line
Have you ever ?

Sure - hold Amazon, Aliexpress, eBay etc criminally responsible for permitting the sale of banned weapons. Arrest and charge their U.K. country heads (they all have offices in the U.K.) when a weapon sold on these platforms is used in a crime - hold them to the same standards that you would a high street retailer.

Not gonna happen though is it?

These individual officers - amazing. They did a great job. But it is after all their job.

They are getting more difficult to buy online, Royal Mail have recently excluded from their items that can be shipped. I wouldn't mind betting that their automated parcel sorting depots have some sort of scanning mechanism to prevent carriage & delivery of these items too.

They look so young too, they can't have been acting officers for very long.

And I agree with you op, this culture of shitty behaviour is always going to be a problem, it's rife in the NHS, care homes, social services etc. The majority will know it goes on and won't agree with it but keep out of it as they know what happens to whistle-blowers.......there needs to be a lot more protection for them and undercover investigations to weed out the perpetrators.

Sorry, sod the guy's welfare, he should be in a body bag.

There's always One who looks for the negative in every situation, any excuse to trot out the cliches 'isms', they must be appalled at any example that doesn't fit their twisted agenda. If they were under attack I assume they would want to check the officer's credentials first.

@MariaLuna that poster meant the police are a gang, not the man with the sword

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Critical thinking is lost on some people.

Firstly, the Police hire people, putting a bad person in a uniform doesn't change them, you just end up with a bad officer.

Your logic could be used to paint every nursery worker as a potential Vanessa George, or every Nurse as just another Lucy Letby, but you don't, because your focus is the Police. See how the flaw in your logic is so easily exposed?

You can criticise the officer, but for context and balance, you must look beyond the one bad Officer or Nurse, and see the bigger picture.

And FYI, the Met is no different to any other force in the country, they are just as understaffed and badly equipped.

If you want some sort of saintly superhero in uniform, then you're going to have to pay for that. 30k a year, to risk your life arresting a murdering lunatic, is simply no where near enough.

And we should mention the fact the officer was female because she was and she was v brace. It helps change perception that female officers aren’t out there on the front line with their male colleagues.
they are and thank god she was yesterday.

Teachers and doctors also behave badly at times but do we tar all nurses with what Lucy letby did? Or the surgeon that was stamping his initials on peoples livers during surgery? Are all surgeons responsible?
no we don’t
some people completely hate it when the police do a great job which they do most days on the streets of London.

It’s not something that we should be applauding her for just because she’s female. She joined the job knowing that this is what she’s going to be doing. She also will have chosen to do a taser course knowing that she’s going to be in the thick of it for jobs like this. Saying ‘she’s brave, and a woman!’ is like saying ‘she’s brave, for a girl’. It’s patronising. They’re all brave for running towards a murderer with a sword. No need to mention her sex.

Yes, she lead and there was definitely an element of males hiding behind her - one pushing another forward!

Yes amazing even Sadiq Khan praised them and he’s usually v quick to put the boot into the Met!
very braze female officer plus the officers that were injured.
They were all very brave

Overshadowed on this thread? I only mentioned it because OP suggested we should all now stop bashing the police. It's madness to think it can only ever be police "yay!" or police "boo!".

We should be able to celebrate bravery and heroism without it meaning we have to accept endemic corruption, racism, and misogyny, and a systemic failure to spot perpetrators of VAWG in its own ranks, or even ignore opportunities for improvement.

You know the police drove there fast when the car arrives smoking!

Watch the video. The car the pulled up had armed police.

Well done to that lady that ran forward with her taser!!

Someone's daughter making people proud.

In a world where sexism is rife, women are brought up to fear walking to the shops after dark or drive on motorways by themselves or spend a night without DH (as seen many times on MN) I see this , rather, as highlighting that women are brave, strong, capable and calm under extreme pressure. She is so assertive when she says ‘Taser’. She comes forward.

It is worth highlighting that women do this stuff alongside men, come forward.

It’s a reminder that of course women do not just mop up fluffy stuff and should not be patronised on that presumption!

Many years ago in a playground I and a friend were confronted with a man who also had a very large knife. He threatened us and we managed to persuade him to go away and not hurt us or the children. There were about 40 people there. It was surreal.

I called the police (twice) It took 20 minutes for them to turn up. I cannot tell you what it was like. This man did not kill anyone, and the police tasered him eventually. He was severely mentally I'll and living with his family.

Incidents like this are more common than you think. Well done to the Met.

Yes, quite, her gender has nothing to do with it.
They are police officers. They were all brave.

Are you really saying we can't reasonably criticise the Met for employing Wayne Couzens and failing to follow up on any of the signs that he was harassing women and a danger to the public, because the force is understaffed?

Or we can't reasonably criticise the individual Met police officers who shared pictures of the murdered bodies of Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry alongside vile comments about them in a WhatsApp group full of other officers (who didn't report them) because the force is lacking some equipment?

So just to clarify until the Met police employs some specific number of officers (how many btw?) and they have all the equipment that they want, you think we should just let officers do terrible things without criticising them?

The people slagging off the police would be the first to stand behind them, expecting to be protected, if a sword wielding attacker was coming for them. The police officers were very brave and I think we all too readily forget just what they deal with, day in day out.
I was in the armed forces and genuinely feel like that was a safer job than had I joined the police.

Well done to all those officers involved yesterday. I feel for all those parents, and of course the rest of their families watching that footage, and holding their breath. My heart goes out to the boys family, and the injured officers and members of public.

As the mum of a Met Police Officer it is wonderful to hear praise being given instead of the usual police bashing.
If you only knew what a month of their day to day call outs looked like.
I am so proud of the way he has handled himself, and the people he has come into contact with, no matter how they have treated him. I am also, truth be told, petrified most of the time.

The police in the UK are probably the best in the world. If you don't believe that statement, tell me about a country which has a better force.

The officers yesterday were incredibly brave, unarmed, but literally running towards the murderer, while everyone else was running away.

We have serious issues with our Police, and we need to fix those issues before we can reasonable criticise them. They have no staff, almost no equipment, and very little training. All of that is down to money, which quit a lot of people (even some on this very thread) don't think should be spent. How you can judge someone for doing a bad job, when they don't have the right tools, is beyond me, but others would pass judgment anyway.

If we had sufficient numbers of officers, the response time would.have been considerably less, possibly immediate, had there been a officer on the street corner when it happened.

But people don't want to pay for officers standing on street corners, they think it's much cheaper to let people be killed first, and have officers respond after.

There are, when you do the numbers, one officer for every 1400 people, that's just not acceptable for a service that is so under equipped.

You can throw the misogyny card around, and drape the racist banner across your chest and go marching in the streets. But until we fix the service, we can't criticise it.

Absolutely @Hereyoume they are a perfect example of smug, sanctimonious thinking everyone will think how wonderful and righteous they are with such comments.. A child has been murdered and its being utilised as a point scoring agenda by some.. slow clap to them.