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Why is the teacher from Batley still in hiding if we do not have a problem with Islamic extremism in this country.

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RespectAndTolerance · 29/04/2024 18:55

As another poster noted on the recent thread on ‘Islamophobia’, we have a democratic society where no one is exempt from criticism, yet some militant groups are riling up intolerance which is incompatible with British values.

These values and our culture have inspired many people of all religions to chose Britain as their home. AIBU to think we should be protecting these?

This article by Kenan Malik explains it much more eloquently. amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/31/batley-school-what-teacher-in-hiding-can-tell-us-about-our-failure-to-tackle-intolerance

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RespectAndTolerance · 30/04/2024 09:11

Huldrafolk · 30/04/2024 08:51

That’s pretty disingenuous, OP. You link to an anti-immigration website, and you appear to think Theo Van Gogh was murdered for his feminism? Maybe do some more reading.

https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/western-women-and-islam?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

I do apologise - this is the correct link

I don’t suggest Van Gogh was murdered for his feminism. He was murdered by an Islamic terrorist and Hirsi Ali’s life was threatened.

Western Women and Islam

A Sad Story of Rape, Assault, Pedophilia, and Incest

https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/western-women-and-islam?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Crispsandwichrock · 30/04/2024 09:03

I'm not going to comment on the other part of the OP, but I'm very sorry to hear that this teacher is still living in fear. He did nothing to deserve this (or his family)

AlisonDonut · 30/04/2024 09:01

Huldrafolk · 30/04/2024 08:51

That’s pretty disingenuous, OP. You link to an anti-immigration website, and you appear to think Theo Van Gogh was murdered for his feminism? Maybe do some more reading.

This is the crux of any issue these days.

'You linked to the wrong source'
'You think X [that wasn't ever actually mentioned]'
'Maybe do some research'

Huldrafolk · 30/04/2024 08:51

That’s pretty disingenuous, OP. You link to an anti-immigration website, and you appear to think Theo Van Gogh was murdered for his feminism? Maybe do some more reading.

RespectAndTolerance · 30/04/2024 08:46

There are plenty of non MSM sources that look into the threat to our culture.

Noticing and talking about real issues is essential if we want to maintain our culture. Unfortunately it doesn’t suit the narrative of those who want to portray some groups as victims. Assimilation is key to a cohesive society and we need to be able to have rational and respectful debates.

I strongly recommend giving the below a read. www.restorationbulletin.com/p/western-women-and-islam Hirsi Ali talks here about the the threat to women by unassimilated Islamists.

As an asylum seeker herself (escaping arranged marriage), she’s one to listen to on how real the threat to our democracy is.
Back in 2004 the director of her short film Submission was murdered.

Theo Van Gogh was shot multiple times and had his throat cut. The assassin, a radical Muslim, left a death threat for her pinned to Van Gogh’s chest.

The short film was titled Submission, and about the oppression of women under Islam.

Some notable excerpts from her article I’ve linked to above:

‘…leftist ideologues are not alone in turning a blind eye to the problem: police and establishment media are complicit. “Centrist” media outlets routinely ignore the inconvenient trends I describe in Prey, instead framing migrants as victims of Islamophobic bigotry when the topic arises. In 2016, the BBC produced a gushing documentary about Omar Badreddin, a Syrian refugee who was charged with sexual assault but found not guilty. Badreddin, cast by the BBC as a victim, was recently found guilty of repeatedly raping a 13-year old girl—alongside two other men. All three were members of a grooming gang in Newcastle.’

‘For Western feminists, Islam is the elephant in the room. While many feminists refuse to address the ways in which Muslim women suffer all over the world, they even more anxiously avoid the topic of sexual abuse by migrant men from Muslim countries on their own turf. To point out the data on sexual assault by migrant men in Europe, as I did in Prey, won me the baffling label “absolutist” in the New York Times. Another review in The Standard condemned my book for implying that “sexism” is in the “DNA” of migrant men who mistreat women. Nowhere do I make such an essentialist claim. Cultural norms, uncorrected by assimilation, drive the phenomenon of migrant-perpetrated sexual assault.’

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Underthinker · 30/04/2024 07:24

YABVU op for believing what you read in the daily fa... I mean fox ne..

omfg its the guardian. I've got nothing. I'm outta here