To think Taylor Swift is overrated?

This is why to people like me it is a mystery why she is in another level of success compared to Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, lady gaga, Ariana grande etc who are all very successful but TS is out on a limb in terms of success. Its baffling.

It's not really baffling. She is very good at her job only a small part of which is singing. She has business acumen which men would be praised for. But when it's a woman its all faux naive "its baffling why she is so successful". Because heaven help a woman be actually good at what she does and be praised for it 🙄

The other poostars you've listed don't do shows that span over fifteen years of music which they have written most of themselves they don't play multiple instruments. They don't do shows that last nearly four hours.

You can't honestly say that there are hundreds of other musicians who have the talent of swift. Come now. This is where it gets silly.

And it's a weird thread from the off because it's a weird thing to ask. Literally no one cares. Listen to who you like and go about your business. It's so so weird that there are this constant flow of threads about swift.

Well someone asked do we answered 🤷🏻‍♀️. What a weird thread this would be if no one said anything

I'm not saying she hasn't got talent. I'm saying she seems much like any other pop star. Forgettable. Catchy songs that are.....ok.
Seems to base 90% of her music on dissing exes. Irl people who go to the tabloids or bleat to friends after every break up are kind of annoying and derided. I have no idea why swifties think when she does it she is somehow 'empowering'.
I think she is a thoroughly marketable, pop singer. Like a hundred others. This is why to people like me it is a mystery why she is in another level of success compared to Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, lady gaga, Ariana grande etc who are all very successful but TS is out on a limb in terms of success. Its baffling.

I know next to nothing of her music and very much doubt it's my sort of thing, but the same has been said about every popular artist since the year dot. There were certainly parents rolling their eyes at their bobbysoxer offspring clamouring to go Frank Sinatra's performances and I'm sure the huge contemporary popularity of Mozart bemused those who preferred J S Bach.

As a role model/idol for young girls, she seems better than many.

Because Taylor is the biggest selling artist of 2023.

Of course there are going to be more threads about her and more polarisation.

When Beyoncé was the biggest selling artist there were plenty of posts online about her being overrated.

It comes with the territory.

Nobody cares what you think.

Also baffled by this. Yes, Shake It Off, 22 and Cruel Summer etc are radio-friendly bops but they're absolutely not representative of her range.

Anyway, who really cares what ploppers randoms on the internet think? I think she's fucking marvellous and it matters not a whit to me if others don't understand why.

Love, a 50-year-old indie kid (and reformed music snob) who's looking forward to dancing all night at Swiftogeddon in a few weeks 😀

It's so bizarre how so few people are able to just say 'I don't like x' without feeling the need to somehow criticise it.

There is no possible way that you listened to Blank Space, Reputation, Evermore and All Too Well and thought they sound the same.

I totally agree with you on every aspect of your post!
(No songs on the new album that I like as much as Karma just yet that’s for sure…..)

My dd is a fan, so we sat and watched the whole Eras tour video together. It was nice, she is obviously genuine I would say, her fans like her so - Meh.

But I found all her songs very samey, and I would not have been able to recognise any of them if I heard them again as being from that concert.

So in that sense she is a good generic singer who has great PR, and good for her. Why not?

I dont really understand where the idea that her target audience is tween girls has come from. The latest album is really not child friendly nor relevant.

Anyway that's by the by but fuck me these threads are getting tedious!

I think she seems like a genuinely decent person/ role model for teens and that is a very good thing.

Personally I find her music really average and not to my taste, but I'm in my thirties and not really the target audience (although I do have friends who love her too).

I just say all the best to her and what she's doing. She's pretty harmless and there are much worse people that are held in high esteem (Andrew Tate, anyone??!)

This. Why do people feel the need to start a thread to tell everyone they don't like someone's singing. Do they think people care particularly?

Kim K - is that you? If so, thanK you aIMee. :)

I've never (knowingly) heard anything she has sung.

@HelenaWaiting exactly what is it you disagree with? I haven't slated her in any way. No I'm not a fan but I have nothing against her. She has a massive following and no doubt could keep a board active. I'm wondering why you took issue with my post?

She's been around a while now and has made the most of the changing landscape in the music industry as well as being a pretty good songwriter/musician. And of course her PR is fantastic.

I love Taylor but she sings (very frequently) about alcohol. There are mentions of addiction referring to drugs too, some clearly in the context of a friend/lover, others where it is ambiguous. Also, you might want to look into her Vigilante Shit performance if you think she is never sexual... And that's not a bad thing. She is a 34 year old woman singing about aspects of her life, which surprise surprise are adult. You don't need to bring other women down by calling them 'trashy' to lift Taylor up.

I’m not a fan myself. I don’t rate her. But life would be boring if we all liked the same thing.

I'm getting a bit bored by how over saturated the radio is with Taylor swift songs- don't mind them, don't love them, but hate hearing the same songs on repeat on multiple stations- would say the same though if it was any artist

Nobody is forcing you to listen to/buy her music or go to her concerts.

She seems rather inoffensive (no drugs and alcohol or diva behaviour towards fans), has some catchy tunes which she writes herself and has been quite outspoken about her political views against Trump. She also never looks trashy or overtly sexual like so many women in pop so she doesn't come across as a record company puppet.

Not a bad role model for kids really.

Of course I can see how a young, powerful, outspoken woman would annoy many people...

I don't think her music is for children - yes Shake it Off was a fab pop song but she writes her music for her age group.
I've been a fan since 2008, I've always loved Country music and it was great having someone my age writing songs about things that were relevant to me, just as her music written in her 30s resonates with me now.

Her most popular hits on the radio aren't her best songs, they tend to be the ones that are slower tempo and poetic, heartfelt and not designed for dancing to really.

Taylor needs her own board on here. 💃

Not keen on her music, think she is amazing though.