To think Taylor Swift is overrated?

She’s obviously hugely successful so I’m guessing a large majority of the world would disagree with you. She’s not in my top 10 artists either (but I imagine 90% of the world would disagree with my choices). I guess the market dictates her worth and on that basis YABU.

And THAT is the dumbest post on the forum today. ^ And a stupid analogy that makes no sense.

Telling someone to eat an entire cake to see if it's gone off, has fuck all connection with saying to someone, that they cannot judge a singer/songwriter and say they are overrated, on the basis of hearing 5-6% of their songs.

Saying to someone that they cannot judge a singer/songwriter and say they are overrated, on the basis of hearing 5-6% of their songs is a FACT.

Also, no-one is forcing ANYONE to listen to Taylor Swift. But her haters sure do fucking love talking about her and starting threads about how 'crap' she is, and how overrated and boring she is. She lives rent free in the heads of ALL of you! PMSL! 😆

Who the hell spends their time and energy starting threads about people they (supposedly) hate and think are crap? Why is she in your head? Why do you talk about her? Why do you think about her?

Somewhere deep inside, the haters LOVE her. They just don't know it yet!

They must do or they wouldn't keep banging on and ON about her. 😂

As I said, Taylor lives rent free in your head!

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You’ve come on here to call a woman who has a highly successful career, average. You felt the need to point out that people are laughing at her and her fans. You call her and her fans cringey. So let’s not pretend that you’re not insulting people. It’s very sad/twisted that people feel the need to bring others down, both the highly successful woman and those that get some joy from her, mainly women and girls.

Just so over the top not my cup of tea

YABVU

I understood that it wasn’t you thinking that. Sorry, it was me who wasn’t clear. 😊

I don’t think we’re on the edge of public opinion swinging. I think there are a tiny minority of people posting negatively online about her. If people are posting clips laughing at her and her fans, are they the sort of people anyone gives a fuck about anyway? Most people aren’t such sad bastards that they spend their time laughing at others or expressing at length why they feel someone is overrated.

IRL I find people either love her, quite like her, (even if not her music, they respect her standing up for herself), or they just don’t have much of an opinion on her. She hasn’t done anything bad, so you have to question the motives of people who seem to want to bring her down.

The one person IRL who says similar to the ‘haters’ on here, fully OTT supported Johnny Depp. She now vocal in her support of Russell Brand. But hates Taylor. I mean, make it make sense. 😂

That's the dumbest theory I've ever heard it's like telling somebody they need to eat and entire cake before they know if it's gone off lol 😆

Life's too short to force down hours worth of stuff that isn't to your taste.

It's always people who have never listened to more than around 10 songs by a certain singer/songwriter who has written/recorded over 150 songs, who decides they are 'overrated.' And that's you isn't it @BillieTheFish ?

I bet you can't name more than 7 or 8 songs by TS ... Like a typical TS hater, you have not heard more than 5% of her songs.

And don't even think about naming a load of her songs here, because I know you will google them.

Yet only one of us has felt the need to resort to playground insults. Funny that.

Maybe I didn’t make my post clear. I’m not saying I think that’s right or that it should happen, it’s rooted in sexism and internalised misogyny and the worst part of humanity that take joy in seeing someone fall, but that’s how the world operates and she knows it. She’s been here before, damn she was even referring it during the red era “they don't tell you when you're twirling in front of the mirror as a child what the papers are gonna say about you someday. Cause they don't tell you they're building you up just to try and knock you down. But they haven’t yet.” I’ve been a Taylor fan since well before rep and this feels similar to that time - like we’re teetering on the edge of public opinion swinging. I’m honestly sort of scared for her.

I think many people are getting fed up of her at this point and will gladly rejoice in her being put back in her place.

You have to question what ‘place’ they think she should be ‘put back in’ and why?

Also anybody on Instagram or tiktok can see the change. I have seen so many clips laughing at her and her fan base just in the last few weeks.

I rarely see Taylor on Tiktok because of how the algorithm works. I see stuff about dogs, photography, vegan diets, fitness and musicians that I like...no one laughing at them or their fans.

There have always been arseholes who laugh at others for enjoying something they don’t like. How sad. It says a lot about you that you see that on tiktok a lot, if you do.

Did you peak in high school by any chance?

@SummaLuvin Yes she is a prime target for butthurt men with anger issues. I'm sure she is staying low profile and keeping safe but she does get a lot of male aggression.

I actually sort of agree that Taylor is overexposed right now, she has been everywhere and her relationship with Travis has exacerbated that even in the UK, so god knows what it’s like the in States where he is a major star in his own right. I wonder if that’s why she has done very limited promo for the album and won’t be going to the Met Gala - to try and limit her exposure. We all know the media love nothing more than to build someone up to tear them down, and there’s only really one way she can go from where she is. I think many people are getting fed up of her at this point and will gladly rejoice in her being put back in her place. Just look at the number of threads on MN which are started to positively talk about her/her work, compared to the amount like this - people are tripping over themselves to say they don’t get it and she is overhyped and her music is average… I think she is being very careful.

That's cool, you aren't exactly someone whose respect I wanted anyway 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This

I like heavy metal, TS, or Beyonce for that matter are as far from my taste in music as possible

But its just creepy watching all the bitter people crawling out of the woodwork to whinge about a successful woman

I have never seen somebody take being wrong with less dignity.

No I don't need to Google because unlike yoi I don't care who her fans are

You were the one moaning about the ick like that wasn't a wierd over reaction to someone liking a pop star

You seem weirdly obsessed with her fan base for someone who finds her cringy...

I have seen so many clips laughing at her and her fan base just in the last few weeks.

You might want to put those awesome Google skills to work and find out how algorithms work...

😴

I prefer the good old days when people posted about recovering lost cryptocurrency.

Also anybody on Instagram or tiktok can see the change. I have seen so many clips laughing at her and her fan base just in the last few weeks.

Well that's Taylor fucked then 😂

I'm on both and I haven't seen anything like that. Quite the opposite.

Disgusting thinking. Also factually incorrect.

During there eras tour only 5 percent of attendees were under the age of 18, with the largest demographic being between the ages of 35and 64 making up 58 percent of the audience. 37 percent being 18 to 35.

You really need to learn to Google.

Also anybody on Instagram or tiktok can see the change. I have seen so many clips laughing at her and her fan base just in the last few weeks.

There has been a huge shift in how music is made now. It's generic, artificial and the use of digital technology makes all current pop music sound the same. There is no individuality either, speaking of female 'artists' it's actually all about how little a woman can wear while prancing around on stage because what else is there to give? Nada! Nothing at all!

80s child here and I totally disagree, I think pop is as good now in the last ten years or so as it was when Baby one more time, genie in a bottle etc was out- Annemarie, Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish, Duo Lipa. Might not quite beat those days but definitely hold their own!!

Every time I listen to a song of hers I think ‘oh that’s quite good’, I listen again, hear a lyric or the way something goes musically and I go ‘ooh, that was well done.’ Next thing I know it’s fully in my head and I’m singing it! Teenage me would have loved her the way I loved Kylie! (Early 90s!!)

God yes, all that saccharine shit the likes of Beiber, Robbie Williams, Sam Smith and Lewis Capaldi come out with - no nuance or thought in most of the lyrics. The "poor meeee" twee shite that always tells a story of a man who, for no reason at ALL some woman simply walked away from... Staggering amounts of self denial. At least TS owns it.

The thing with these types of threads, and any kind of discussion really around successful, talented women, is that it brings out the high school mean girls.

Liking or disliking her music is irrelevant, I don’t like Beyoncé’s music at all but I can still acknowledge that she is a massively talented and hard working individual. I can understand why people are fans even if I am not.

Some people just can’t see any woman being successful without having to put her down for stupid reasons - i.e she is a billionaire multi award winning song writer, halfway through a successful world tour with what now appears to be a record breaking new album - yeah but her dancing is cringy/she only writes about her exes (said by people who don’t actually listen to any of her songs and just read tabloids).