To ask what you think when you see a white woman and a Muslim man?

Idgaf what most of you are doing with your lives. I take note of children and tend to check they appear happy and safe with a guardian, the rest of you could walk round bare ass naked and I wouldn't notice.

I'd be a terrible police witness.

No, he didn’t.

It’s quite obvious that neither he nor Kattan are practising muslims.

In any case, it is very common for women from muslim backgrounds to date/marry non-muslim western men.

I can pull out more ‘celebrity’ examples, but really, I thought this was common knowledge. 🤷‍♀️

If I knew he were Muslim and she were not I might wonder if she is being repressed or having to live with Sharia Law or made to wear a covering.

I would hope the woman is free to choose her own destiny and that their partnership is based on mutual respect.
I would hope that their extended families are being supportive and embracing of their family.
I would hope that they each are able to practise their own religious and cultural rituals and be happy for each other's inner peace and traditions.

I think, the posts making a big deal out of saying they wouldn't know if a man is a Muslim or not are being disingenuous. Obviously, you can never ACCURATELY guess anyone's religion by just looking at them but this thread isn't about calculated deductions. It's about assumptions and prejudice. If you see an Arab most People would assume that they are Muslim or at least have Muslim ancestry and make their assumptions based on that. If you see a south Asian you would probably assume they are either Muslim or Hindu. If you see someone white you'd assume they are Christian, etc

I'm ethnically indian but an atheist. People still assume I'm a Hindu. So what? I don't mind. Humans have evolved to make assumptions based on split second impressions and base their decisions on this.

The problem arises if after the first split second assumption you don't check your prejudices.

Having said thst when I see a white woman / Muslim man or actually any mixed couple with any combination it makes me happy and it makes me instantly like them more. I assume (!!) they are very open minded and Liberal. I know this is an assumption as well but that's my initial reaction.

Irrespective of what they are actually like though I think just seeing mixed couples normalises that being and looking different is not a big deal if people actually don't mind dating or even sharing their life, having a family with someone that might appear a bit alien to us. So yes, more mixed couples for world peace!!!!

I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

My Arab uncle married a white Englishwoman. He’s Muslim, she’s not, and nobody in the family cares. My nanna commented (when their engagement was announced) that their babies would be beautiful.

My white, Christian mum married my Muslim dad. Again, no conversion, & mum raised us in her faith, with dad’s blessing. And if I may say so, their kids aren’t bad-looking either!
;-)

So long as his family is liberal enough to accept the woman as she is, with no pressure to change, it will be fine. The most important question is whether he is a good, loving, steadfast man.

Good grief !
he acknowledged he was Muslim when I asked him!
at 6.15 pm ish I took the adult decision to offer them a beer -
he wasn’t driving his mate was, also pleased to be offered a beer
which wasn’t chilled and had a beer cap requiring leverage
You deliberately defied the point of my post in order to project your
judgemental opinion on what an adult should and shouldn’t be doing?!

I wouldn't think anything but I know quite a few mixed race relationships.

Regarding the thread you are referencing:

The issue in my opinion is a supposedly non-religious Muslim man going through with a religious ceremony to keep his parents happy.

I judge anyone who can’t make decisions for themselves and someone looking to appease their parents like this isn’t someone I’d advise anyone being in a relationship with.

I would see a couple

I honestly wouldn't think anything of it. I'm white and married to an Asian man (not a Muslim) and I have a Muslim brother in law so seeing a white woman and an obviously Muslim guy is just a very "normal" thing to me. I also come from London and I went to a university here which has a high proportion of Muslim students, and interracial/inter-religious marriages are quite common in my circle.

I guess the only thing that might pop into my mind is curiousity about whether the white woman in the couple had converted(reverted?) to Islam, because I'm genuinely just really interested in religion and she might have an interesting story! But it obviously it is none of my business

Is it also haram for a Muslim man to marry a non-muslim woman?
Did you convert?

This happens more than people know.
My friend had to "convert" to Catholicism in order to get married in her fiancé/husbands family Catholic Church.
In reality she is not religious. She goes through the motions. He is more so it was important to him.

I would be surprised if there was a markedly Muslim man (traditional dress, cap, beard) with a women without hijab in western clothes because that shows a discrepancy in his beliefs...but good on him.

It's quite common to see white women who have converted here and dress in hijab etc (but also not every Muslim who appears "white" is british or western European- potentially Eastern Europe, Northern Turkey/Kurdistan)

Personally I am not sure I could/would....but I am atheist and also it seems like a faff. Not sure I could love a man that wanted to dictate how I dressed etc....or be part of a religion that did.

I wouldn't think anything at all.

I don't honestly think I would notice. Not all Muslims are non-white anyway, unless the man was wearing typically Muslim dress, how would you know? It's nobody else's business anyway. Plenty of Muslims are moderate or even nominal.

Out in the real world, plenty of women from muslim backgrounds have non-muslim husbands and boyfriends

Someone writes ‘out in the real world’ when they really mean ‘in the West’ because it is literally illegal in much of MENA (I think Tunisia recently abolished this restriction, it may be the only one outside of Turkey that allows interfaith marriage for Muslim women)

Ok. But they have still married a non Muslim.

No one was talking about specific ceremonies. They were talking about Muslim women marrying non Muslim men.

My female friend married a christian guy (from Jamaica) they were together c. 20 years and broke up for the usual non-religion related reasons. My other friend is currently dating and picks guys who she fancies regardless of religion. Im in london.

To answer the question, though, I don't think too many people would bat an eyelid. I work for a Sikh company and it's not too uncommon for Sikhs to marry white partners. I think the objection would more commonly come from conservative family members/parents.

That's not true. My SIL is Muslim, my brother's Jewish. They were married by an imam.

Probably wouldn't even notice. I don't see why it matters who your in a relationship with as long as its legal

The main concern on the thread about the woman in her 20s marrying an Arab was her previous posts where it's clear that it's not a stable relationship and he isn't an honest man. And whatever religion you are, it doesn't sit well if a man living in the UK is willing to lie to his family in the name of a religion he supposedly doesn't practice, and then drag his intended bride overseas and require her to also lie and keep the charade going. It's wrong on so many levels. If a man is willing to lie to that extent to family then he's not a trustworthy man.

But you crack on and make this about people hating partnerships of white women and Arabs. Did she even say she was white btw?

No convert like a new convert. I have known born and raised evangelical Christians convert and wear the niqab. It is disturbing to me how someone raised in the West can easily accept and participate in the public erasure of women.

You can often get a good indication by the dress style, although it's never 100%.

Like, non practicing 'Muslim' women don't usually wear burkhas etc and the men seem less likely to wear the long white flowing robes (don't know the proper name).

I've worked with loads of guys from Muslim backgrounds and generally the non practicing ones just wear 'normal' western clothing.

My parcel delivery regular guy is tall, white, mid European Muslim - I know this as,
I offered him a bottle of beer - he asked did it have alcohol, I said yes of course, its beer, then realised

That doesn't mean he's Muslim. Most people won't drink on duty, especially if they're driving, which most parcrl delivery people do. I've family who don't drink because they're Christian. I've other friends who don't drink fir health reasons, and often, just can't be bothered these days. But I wouldn't offer someone who is working alcohol, because no one should be drinking on duty.