To ask what you think when you see a white woman and a Muslim man?

I can't tell people's religion by looking at them.

whats your point? We can be here all day mentioning every type of phobia

Funny, my husband did.

I think there's another female being controller and influence by a man.

Isn't it funny how the man never converts the other way round.

You did ask.

I don't know if I'd know a man was Muslim just by looking at him. I live in a still very homogenously white rural backwater but even here we do have many people of all different races. IDK where they are from and I def don't know their religion by looking at them.

I grew up in a largely Sikh area and that I could tell because they wore head scarves. I am R.C. myself if that makes a difference.

No but we do have anti-semitism. Why is this any different?

I live in a town in the NW where there is a large Muslim community. They tend to keep themselves to themselves, although I have worked with a couple of Muslim girls who were absolutely lovely and sociable at work but told us of their very strict home lives and were never allowed to socialise after work, have boyfriends etc You never see a Muslim man with a white woman around here but if I did, I'd just assume they were happy together and had found a way to make things work between them like any other couple.

I think it's none of my business.

Yes, I was also surprised, but yes, while it’s a massively multi-cultural
city, it is quite ‘zoned’ rather than mixed, so I assume that’s partly it. We made friends with a middle-aged white guy/woman of Pakistani descent (and non-practising Muslim) couple, and I think had known them for a while before I realised that kind of couple was comparatively rare. I know she said they deliberately didn’t live in the city, though.

White woman with a Muslim man? :) Well I'm white and all men in my family for as long back as it's possible to trace were.... White! I kid you not :) We're Bosnian :). Have been settled in the UK since mid 90s. Just wanted to point out that Islam isn't a racial or ethnic characteristic so it can be a bit misleading to say "white woman with a Muslim man". Islam a set of beliefs rather than physical appearance.
Just for the record my husband (also Bosnian) is also white, with blond hair and blue eyes.. Most males in his family (also 100% Bosnian and 100% Muslim) look similar in their appearance.

Which post? The whole thread or one post in particular?

Of course you do. The word Islamophobia was created to shut down discussion. Why aren’t we allowed to criticise Islam?

Do you ever hear of Christianophobia, Catholicophobia, Hinduophobia?

I thought it was odd that you didn't see this in Leicester. But then remembered that in Leicester the communities live in very separate areas. So there is probably less mixing than in other cities. (I'm Leicester born and bred) it surprised me when I moved to Nottingham that there were less clearly defined areas. And the areas where there was a majority group, were much more mixed.

I wouldn't know if someone was a Muslim by looking at them. If you are saying a probably mixed race possibly mixed religion couple I would say good luck to them, being a couple is hard enough without lots of cultural differences in the mix.

But as my GM used to say every twos a pair.

You’ve asked for opinions about what people would think upon seeing you with your husband, and have said he is obviously Muslim, but I don’t think you are being very clear about how you yourself present.

From what you are saying about it being haram for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man, it sounds like you are a Muslim yourself, but white and perhaps not born into a Muslim family?

Do you cover your head in public?

If I saw a white woman not in religious dress clearly married to a devout Muslim man with a beard and prayer cap I would wonder how they reconciled their different faiths at home and be surprised that the man was interested in having a non-Muslim wife. Or I’d think they were on their way to a special occasion so he was wearing religious garb for that reason.

If the white woman was in religious dress I’d think she had converted and not give it any more thought.

I don’t think I have ever seen that first combination out and about though, and I live in London.

Most of the mixed couples I know are less obviously religious. One of my son’s classmates has a blonde white British mother and a father of South Asian appearance with the name Khan. Neither dress in any religious way and both drink alcohol so I assumed that he was either not a practising Muslim, or a very liberal one. Their child has a western first name.

My Muslim mate from university is medium observant, goes to mosque occasionally, doesn’t drink or eat pork, but doesn’t pray daily. He is married to a white non-Muslim woman, I think she might be culturally Christian but not practising . They met at medical school. Their kids are being brought up to understand Islam but no pressure to practise it. They have names that work in both Muslim and Western contexts (eg one is Aron).

I find this post Islamaphobic and very offensive.

As an white English woman married to a non practicing olive skinned Muslim man from abroad for 30 years, the white, obviously English women wearing a hijab and black full length garb in my town make me quite angry tbh. There was only 1 of them who was quite noticeable but over the last few years, I have noticed at least 6-8 probably due to the exodus from London after Covid.

I often wonder what happened to them and how on earth they can agree with the way women are viewed and treated in Islamic countries while they have the luxury of the protection of the UK. I know enough of how women are treated in DH’s moderate Muslim country. These poor women are born into Islam and have little choice in it.

The ones with young daughters wearing hijab make me quite disgusted. I would like to say to them, do you realise you are agreeing that your child’s hair is sexually attractive to men and that they must cover it as men can’t be expected to control their sexual urges? Absolutely vile.

I am an atheist who thinks religion is a collective mental illness.

A religion in the 21st century which advocates violence, murder, the subjugation of women and places more importance on a fantasy afterlife than actually living life has no place in the UK IMO.

Well, that’s the point - they are not practising so why would they make their boyfriend convert to a religion they don’t even practise?

I have come across several muslim-background woman / white British man couples, it is not at all uncommon.

I wouldn't think anything at all. Also, how am I actually meant to know the man is Muslim?

I looked this up - they were wed in an Episcopalian Church ceremony in Florence

At DS’s London primary school at least a third of the families are Muslim. I’ve never seen any of the dads wearing clothes that mark out their faith. Lots of hijab wearing mums, but also plenty of Muslim mums who don’t. Thinking about DS’s friends there are three boys who each have one white European parent and one parent of South Asian heritage. None of those are Muslim, but I’d be pretty confident your marriage wouldn’t raise any eyebrows round here.
I do know what you mean about that other thread, though! I didn’t read many of the posts but it made me feel uncomfortable.

I'm white, I reverted to islam way before marriage. My husband is middle Eastern. Literally no one cares. Why would they?

shalwar kameez translates to ‘womens trousers’

But in practice, many don’t.

A non-religious woman from a muslim background isn’t going to give a damn if her boyfriend doesn’t convert to a religion she doesn’t even practise.