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Jobs worth nursery??

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MintFinch · 29/04/2024 06:38

DS is a September baby and we’ve made the decision to move him from current nursery to one attached to the school that he’ll attend from Sept 2025. I have just informed current nursery of this fact. Reason for doing this is that current nursery is quite small and I think he has outgrown it. But mainly, all his little friends will be going to school this September and I don’t want him feeling left behind.

last week I informed the nursery that he’ll be leaving end of Aug. Thanked them for a lovely 3 years etc, all very polite. My one request was that he be allowed to participate in the school leavers activities that they do in the summer. We’re telling him he is going to school too as it’s a much more structured setting, school uniform etc so basically is like school anyway.

Message received back the same day, again all very polite. Except they are refusing to allow him to be involved in the leavers ceremony. Their reason, only for children actually going to school and those staying to the end of term (which he is).

I am really upset by this. What on earth could be the reason to exclude a small boy from these events. And how do we explain this to him. It feels so jobs worthy and actually quite discriminatory to exclude him due to him being a few weeks younger. I want to go into mumma bear mode and fight this but I’m wondering whether I’m being over protective and it really doesn’t matter. AIBU to want to start a fight (on email!) over this?

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Havinganamechange · 03/05/2024 18:48

FFS he is a small kid as are they all, what’s the issue in him being involved. Doesn’t it teach them to be kind and inclusive, what possible reason do they have to be so rigid. Absolutely ridiculous.

Likesicecream · 03/05/2024 18:33

FWIW I’m with you, he’s been there 3 years it would be nice! My son was in a nursery where they did something similar for a kid in the same situation. It’s just nice.

Sleepytiredyawn · 03/05/2024 18:24

He will get his Graduation when he leaves Pre-School. Same as if you held him back a year. He can’t join in something he isn’t actually a part of.

Jumpers4goalposts · 03/05/2024 18:11

YABU he is not graduating nursery. He will get a form of graduation when he does graduate nursery whenever that is.

Nuttyputty · 03/05/2024 17:16

Iwasafool · 03/05/2024 12:26

His birthday is September, he might be a week younger than some of the children "graduating" so why bother for them.

Thats irrelevant. It was a direct comparison to year tens

NoraBattysCurlers · 03/05/2024 16:18

Iwasafool · 03/05/2024 15:22

She called the nursery jobs worth not the people, hope that helps.

No, and your use of the past tense is incorrect.

Lollipop81 · 03/05/2024 15:23

The joys of being the parent of a September born 😂 my son was born on the 2nd September and all of his friends from preschool started school and he didn’t. It’s hard but he will be ok, as others have said he isn’t the right age group for the graduation, as frustrating as this is. I always think if he was a day and a half older. Very annoying but not much you can do. Hopefully he will get his turn next year.
as for al the posters saying he isn’t starting school everyone calls school nursery school 😂 except for me I think lol

Iwasafool · 03/05/2024 15:22

NoraBattysCurlers · 03/05/2024 14:14

OP, you lost me when you used the expression 'jobs worth'.

What a condescending way to refer to those who work in a nursery and take care of your child.

She called the nursery jobs worth not the people, hope that helps.

TruthorDie · 03/05/2024 15:15

Toxic 🤣. What because the majority of people think you are wrong?! But he’s not going to school! I’m guessing this a PFB thing combined with a large dose of entitlement. Spoiler: everyone thinks their child / children are special and different but for clarity they aren’t

Elaina87 · 03/05/2024 15:10

I do think they should include him, he's leaving at the same time and going to pre school. I understand why you are upset. My little girl left at the Christmas to go to pre school and didn't get any sort of fuss made over her, had she stayed another 6months she would have got the whole garudatuon thing so I was sad. What made it worse was that in the previous summer a little girl who had been going to pre school was included in the graduation celebrations so that she didn't feel left out. They did "VIP days" for each child leaving so they got to choose all the activities that day, food etc. I thought they would at least do that for my daughter at the a Christmas but they didn't bother and it did upset me. But I do think also totally think that as their mum's we are a bit over sensitive to these things. Maybe you should explain it to him properly rather than telling him he is going to school. Tell him it's not big boy school yet, it's a practice for big boy school. So that he has a better understanding of why they are doing this and he is not. Are any other children leaving who aren't going to school? If so then it's understandable they are treating them all the same, if not then they should include him.

Grammarnut · 03/05/2024 14:41

You have a September-born DS, as was my DS many, many years ago. He was always in the year below his actual age cohort for his entire school career, and was nineteen when he went to university i.e. he got a year's extra schooling as all late September-born children do. (Conversely, DD was born early April and got a year less school than her brother - she was three weeks early, too!) Though you are moving DS to the nursery of the school you hope he will attend he is going with his nursery friends, who are up to a year older than him remember, he is going to the nursery, and the nursery school children do not usually mix with Reception, except at assemblies, not in the playground etc., sometimes not even at lunchtime. By the time your DS goes into Reception, he will have different friends, too, even if he goes to the school attached to his nursery. You need to explain this to him in terms he can understand, otherwise he will be upset that he is not with his friends from nursery.

generella · 03/05/2024 14:32

'Lying'

Thegoodbadandugly · 03/05/2024 14:25

He's not leaving to goto school, he's leaving to go to another nursery and why are you lying to him telling him he's going to school? You are not doing him any favours by doing this sort of stuff.

generella · 03/05/2024 14:16

@MintFinch AIBU to want to start a fight (on email!) over this?

On reflection - I would email. Not to start a fight, but just to ask very nicely whether they might reconsider:

  1. because your child will not understand the difference between leaving to attend pre-school and begin school. Indeed, most children begin school before the age at which it is compulsory.

  2. you have been so delighted with the nursery's care and education so far over the past three years. You have always recommended it to friends, and you were expecting to seek a further place should you have any further children.

  3. it would be lovely for your child to finish his time at the nursery on happy memories, rather than a memory of being left out.

If they still say no, just write it off as time wasted. At least you'll save money on thank-you gifts on the last day.

NoraBattysCurlers · 03/05/2024 14:14

OP, you lost me when you used the expression 'jobs worth'.

What a condescending way to refer to those who work in a nursery and take care of your child.

generella · 03/05/2024 14:07

@Flymo55 I can’t believe that everyone is being so rude

Completely agree. It's bananas.

And - it would cost the nursery nothing to include him, and it's not as if it's standard practice across the sector. The OP has probably paid over £30,000 over the past three years and it's such a small thing they could do to improve general happiness.

Flymo55 · 03/05/2024 13:59

I can’t believe that everyone is being so rude. I had a similar situation with my child who is a September birthday. Suggesting the child won’t be upset unless the parent makes a big deal is ridiculous. My child also moved to a school nursery and made us call it “big school”. I totally understand where you’re coming from but would suggest that it’s not worth fighting the nursery over.

shepherdsangeldelight · 03/05/2024 13:56

It doesn't sound like he'll be starting a new school when he goes to reception though. I have a 3 year old who goes to the nursery at the local school and my eldest is in reception at the same school its called 'village name nursery and primary'.

Attending nursery does not give you priority for Reception (in state schools). So it's possible that other circumstances (you live next door to the school and have an older sibling or have an EHCP with school named) might make it definite that you will get a place, but in many/most cases you won't know until after school admissions.

My local school is a similar <name nursery and school>. Every year nursery children don't get places in Reception.

Tiredmama53 · 03/05/2024 13:53

KeyWorker · 29/04/2024 06:47

This is the problem with engineering this fantasy for your child, not everyone else is willing to indulge it. You’ve told him he’s going to school, but he isn’t, he’s going to another nursery. Why can he know that?

It’s not discrimination, please don’t put that in an email to the nursery as you’ll make a fool of yourself.

Just be truthful to your son, explain that it’s time for a new nursery school and he will start another new school the following year for reception.

Edited

It doesn't sound like he'll be starting a new school when he goes to reception though. I have a 3 year old who goes to the nursery at the local school and my eldest is in reception at the same school its called 'village name nursery and primary'. They wear the same uniform, eat lunch together in the same hall, participate in all the same big school events like sports day, parents day is all on the same evening, the themes like wellbeing week etc are celebrated across both, breakfast, after school and holiday club is all the same one and they're all together etc.Technically yes ones school and ones nursery but they're also very much joined and we and everyone I know refers to the nursery as school its not really 'starting a new school' when they go up for reception. It sounds like this is the same situation for OP.

I agree about the nursery being within their rights to say no to graduation but I think telling him he's not starting school and will be going somewhere else the year after is a silly way to explain the situation to him.

generella · 03/05/2024 12:41

He was going to pre-school and not "big school" though. What did you tell him when he moved to Reception? More to the point, what would you have told him if he hadn't got a place in Reception?

Everyone at nursery who wanted a place in Reception got one. It's not oversubscribed. In fact, I think the school rang me to remind me to fill out the form.

I don't think I said anything when they moved to Reception - there was no need to buy new uniform, which still fit. They knew most of the children already, and had the same teacher. In lots of ways the transition to Year 1 was a bigger step - there was more expectation to sit still and work.

Though I remember it was a ballache having to do Reception 'settling in days' when they had been going to morning care, nursery and aftercare in the same setting (7.30 to 5.30) for the previous year.

But perhaps I shouldn't have called it Big School anyway until it's high school 😂

KittyCollar · 03/05/2024 12:39

YesIdosabroso · 03/05/2024 09:52

Really? So the graduation is now for anyone whose mum wants them to go and not for kids going to school? You sound stunningly entitled! Your child is not going to school and that's the end of it! Why you have told him he is and expect everyone else to pretend is ridiculous. He will get his turn for this kind of stuff - when it is his turn. No he can't go - it is for kids going to school. He is too young for school and has another year of nursery. You are going to have a lot of disappointments ahead when school starts and you can't control anything!

Yep. Spot on and totally entitled

KittyCollar · 03/05/2024 12:36

I think you’re teaching him entitlement and to keep on until you get what you want. You’ve been told no. No biggie

shepherdsangeldelight · 03/05/2024 12:29

generella · 03/05/2024 11:27

You are lying to your child

Oh no. I now realise that when I bought uniforms for my kids the summer before pre-school, and said they were going to 'Big School' that I was LYING.

The pre-school that is part of a school where teachers sometimes teach Year 1, sometimes teach Reception and sometimes teach Nursery. And which is recognised by Ofsted as the same school for pupils 'aged 3 to 11'.

He was going to pre-school and not "big school" though. What did you tell him when he moved to Reception? More to the point, what would you have told him if he hadn't got a place in Reception?

Iwasafool · 03/05/2024 12:26

Nuttyputty · 03/05/2024 12:15

Yeah the main difference being a three year old won't have a clue, except for the divvy mother telling him he was going to be apart of it.

His birthday is September, he might be a week younger than some of the children "graduating" so why bother for them.

Nuttyputty · 03/05/2024 12:15

Iwasafool · 03/05/2024 10:30

You do realise you would be 15 in year 10 and this little boy is 3? Can you see there is a difference?

Then there is the fact that year 10 kids will be in year 10, this little boy is in a cohort with children who will be in a different year to him at school because there is an arbitrary date for starting school.

Not the same thing at all.

Yeah the main difference being a three year old won't have a clue, except for the divvy mother telling him he was going to be apart of it.