Islam groups calling for caliphate in Germany, aibu to be petrified?

Well there have always been people who believe in Islamist extremism in the West. YANBU to be a bit worried but to be honest I don't think this protest is any different to anything that could have happened 20 years ago.

People who say it wouldn’t happen only have to look to Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria. Look at what life was like there in 1960s etc and you’ll realise if we don’t fight against it it can happen

This is not about a German caliphate being in any way realistic. I am aware that it won’t happen.
you know it, I know it and these protesters most likely do as well.

This is a group of 1’000+ people feeling emboldened to publicly support extremely violent and extremist views that deny the human rights and freedom - or the right to simply exist - to many of us, particularly women, Jews, homosexual people…
Which also suggests that they aren’t particularly worried about facing backlash from friends, colleagues and family.
How is that not worrying? What does it tell us about the environments they live in?
And how would this affect people who are regularly exposed to that (be it due to the neighbourhoods they live in, an educational setting, work etc)?

I understand why one might find this disquieting.
and that is without considering the possibility that some of these protestors may actually turn to terrorism and violent extremism.

Don't understand it. Surely they left Iraq or Afghanistan as they didn't want to live under the regime and wanted a better life? If they want this then move to Afghanistan?

The OP asks if it’s unreasonable to be scared.

She wasn’t assessing risk and the chances of this happening.

She is reflecting that we live in a society where people are calling for extremist actions, in what is a relatively peaceful continent. That should alarm many people. That will also have the effect of frightening some people.

So it isn’t unreasonable to feel scared that there are people who are publicly calling for a caliphate. In the same way that it isn’t unreasonable that people would feel scared if there are groups calling for the closure of British mosques.

They can call for what they like, they’re not going to get it.

It’s a worrying time in general

This protest specifically - no.

I’d stop watching Fox ‘News’ it is designed to frighten the anxious

Well done in giving traction to clickbait!

It's a matter of time sadly.

Extreme Islamic groups are always threatening these things, just like other extremist groups threatening things. I wouldn't worry too much.

That would be the same Fox news that ran a whole story in the US claiming that the British police refuse to enter Birmingham because its too dangerous?

London has added over a thousand Christian churches this century. There's one on every corner round our way.

Christianity may be struggling in rural England (due to the rise of atheism, rather than Islam) but London is increasingly Christian.

@blimeyslimey Yes. People forget we are still fighting for Woman Life Freedom. Still being killed for showing our hair. Yet it’s not a problem that these violent ideologies are being promoted in our own country?

Surely it can't be news to you OP that some Muslims believe that the world would be better if it were ruled on Islamic principles by a religiously sanctioned leader: a caliph.

I strongly disagree with this ambition but it's not an unreasonable one if you agree with the premises: it's how you plan to get there that's the problem.

The PP with Nigerian family has much more reason to be afraid of Islamist organisations, tens of thousands of Christians (along with Muslims and atheists and others, but Christians have been specifically targeted) have been killed by armed Islamist groups in Nigeria in recent years.

petrified? give your head a wobble. it's never going to happen.

It's going to happen here in the U.K.

Churches are falling by the wayside, derelict and unused. There are over 1,500 Mosques in the U.K. and London has the greatest amount of Mosques outside Turkey!

Some sources say there are nearer 3,000 Mosques -

www.nearestmosque.com/uk

It's a small fringe protest.

You're looking at Fox News.

Yes, yabu to be 'petrified'.

So ordinary people don’t ever belong to or get influenced by political parties? Interesting take.

There is a tiny fraction of a fraction of 1% of the population (80 million) of a democratic country calling for a caliphate. I imagine there are similar numbers of extremists calling for the same or worse in any similar country at any time, and probably have been for decades, before the internet enabled you to find out about it.

I have critical faculties which enable me to evaluate risk. So yes, I am more concerned at the moment about the risk posed by right wing propaganda, which has, let’s not forget, already delivered President Trump, and poses a far greater risk to us than a tiny, tiny number of extremists of any stripe who have no prospect of getting into power to achieve what they aim for.

I think that's a pretty rude accusation when a quick advance search shows the op posting on a number of topics around the forum.

Sorry I think I should clarify I thought OP was worried about there would be an actual caliphate which is unlikely.

I wasn’t saying that Islamic extremism/ political Islam isn’t problematic for western societies. Because clearly it is.i do think we are quite cowardly as a society about extremism. Those threatening that teacher, that poor woman and the staff at Michaela school should be tracked down and prosecuted.

Totally agree with this, and thank you for saying it.

But not worth bearing in mind that there’s people in Europe actually calling for a caliphate?

Welcome to the future. You’re not wrong.