Islam groups calling for caliphate in Germany, aibu to be petrified?

You do realise that people can be both British and Muslim simultaneously? What happens to their birth rates then?

Birth rates are reducing worldwide, including in almost all Muslim countries.

@KarmaCaramello
Counter protests for what exactly? I don't see other people expecting counter protests for anything but as soon as some Muslims have done or said anything, suddenly there are cries for the counter protests.

There has been so many far right opinions in the press recently, some from our very own Mps. Yet I did not hear anyone saying there should be counter protests to "prove" that you do not agree.
Why should we always have to 'prove' to the public via protests that we do not agree.

I am a very private person. You are not going to get me up on a platform explaining away someone else's opinion/ rhetoric?
If you really want to know how I feel, come and ask me and I will tell you.
There are protests going on London about Palestine right now. I have never been. But all I have heard is negative stuff from some people whereas the majority of them seemed to be fine.

Why would I publicly protest to be tarred with the same brush as them?
Muslims always get a bad rep in the media, would I want to be seen as part of that?
No I would never counter protest in public. Doesn't mean I agree or disagree with other protests. Only way to find out is to ask me or get to know me.
The people that do know me, from all different walks of life I would like to add, know my opinions and my feelings.

My tender sensibilities of opposing Islamic rule? Why don’t you travel to Iran and see if it seems so precious then. I assume you’re a woman of course.

if I am part of a group with a sizeable violent extremist faction and none of the rest of the group condemns it, how can I demand people assume I don’t agree? You are taking people for idiots.

I've enjoyed the videos of her being put on the spot. She's vile.

I'm wondering if this is cleverly timed for the local elections this week?

Susan, is that you? 🧐

Orban is far right and Hungary is no kind of model of democracy.

Did you even understand my post?

Yawn, 2001 wants your post back.

Muslims are busy living their lives, running their businesses, taking care of their children and families, y'know, the people who matter.

They don't have time to protest specifically to mollify your tender sensibilities.

Were things the same for our grandparents 50 years ago as they are today?

Of course not. The world moves on. This thing about birth rates is a conspiracy theory. Ironically feeding into white supremacist terrorism that's been identified as a cause of lone wolf attacks.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/08/a-deadly-ideology-how-the-great-replacement-theory-went-mainstream

Is that because the women don't agree or want a caliphate or they were not allowed protest?

You're just a caricature of yourself now. Did you think all the women at the Palestine protests were holographs?

@Lemoncakeandcoffee I cannot speak for the whole of the ME nor do I pretend to. I've lived in this particular country for ten years now and yes,it's extremely tolerant. We have a Jewish Synagogue,a Sikh temple,the most beautiful Catholic Catherdal,many Indian places of worship,many Christian churches. All are very well attended and all are very welcome. We live shoulder to shoulder with the local wonderful Muslim citizens who are kind,tolerant,respectful and all round lovely people. I absolutely love living here and I wouldn't go back to the UK with all it's ugly divisiveness if my life depended on it. Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative.

Yes because Europe was so peaceful and tolerant when it was last in the grips of right wing governments.

We might have to spend a few generations under those regimes but if it that's the only way to protect our way of life then it will be done
Is your post sarcastic or do you really believe this?

Where are the counter protests? Where are the ‘not in our name’ statements making a clear separation? How can a separation be made if the community is not making it clear themselves?

@Hélène79
Yes exactly. Too much misinformation being spread out there and I believe, genuinely that most of our lives, hopes and desires are very similar if not the same.

The tide is turning on the whole multicultural experiment.
If it takes right wing government across Europe to turn that tide once and for all then so be it.
It is happening already and I believe western Europe will be 100% right wing within the next 50 years.
We might have to spend a few generations under those regimes but if it that's the only way to protect our way of life then it will be done

I think common sense is needed, personally.
Looking at some of these posts... I mean islamophobia and the whole taking over the world etc. Do they know how many Muslims live in this world? Is it not fact that the majority of Muslims are just living their lives as normal, with a house and the 2. 4 kids etc? Imagine if all these Muslims tried to do all these things that people are assuming they want to do.
I mean, just a snapshot of the area I live in, Muhammed down the road is working hard to provide for his family whereas Fatima is looking after the kids at home.
( I know I'm being stereotypical here, but I'm just showing that your typical muslim is not really looking to take over the world in real life).
Same as Jews, Christians, hindus etc. Day to day life, they are dealing with small world problems such as, does this outfit make me look fat? The kids are misbehaving again, shall I cut their device time or make them sit in the naughty corner?
I am not saying there aren't extremists. There are in every race, religion, city etc.
But we cannot tar with the same brush.
Another example being, what is happening in Palestine. It would be pretty stupid of me to just grab a jew on the street and start berating them.
Because I do not know how he or she actually feels about them.
Please do not let the scaremongering divide us further with a he said, she said.
We need as much peace and love in this world. It is already scary for everyone out there as it is

Luxury beliefs. Just like those who house female prisoners with violent men because it doesn’t affect them.

Booksoverbros YANBU too many refuse to see what is happening because their lives are not affected, yet. One day their lives will be changed and the middle class will demand change but it will be far too late.

This isn't the first instance of extremists calling for a caliphate to be established in Germany. There have been others in the Ruhr area that actually had higher attendance than this one, however, I don't think they captured the attention of the global media in the same way.

The real issue is the useless Interior Minister and that whole department who have proven themselves utterly incapable of managing this relatively minor threat from a handful of fanatics who have been emboldened by the war in the Middle East.