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Papyrophile · 03/05/2024 21:44

Reasonable thought, not disageeing so far, but where is the point of engaging in discussion? I suggest it has to happem more quietly.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 03/05/2024 21:35

Negotiations where one side has to admit defeat first, are not negotiations.

Papyrophile · 03/05/2024 21:33

Agree that there should be negotiations, but I don't think it is possible until Hamas admit defeat. Israel will not step down because Israel is the world's only Jewish state.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 03/05/2024 20:41

Maybe it is time to admit that current thinking and strategies are really rather useless.

People need to get around a negotiating table and work out how to solve the problem. The current "save Netanyahu's arse" is a fecking disaster for normal Israelis.

Do people want a world where Palestinians and Israelis are equal or not?

Dineasair · 03/05/2024 19:58

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 03/05/2024 19:01

And in 40 days time when that ceasefire wold expire?

What would happen?

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Maybe they should have thought of that when they broke the ceasefire on 7th of October and took all those hostages, which is defined as a war crime under the Geneva Convention, and just maybe they could stop using the civilian population as human shields.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 03/05/2024 19:01

Dineasair · 03/05/2024 18:50

Of course I am, but if Hamas accepted the ceasefire, released the hostages and stopped using women and children as human shields then that would save an awful of lives. Men make the war, but it’s always women and children who suffer the consequences most, on all sides.

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And in 40 days time when that ceasefire wold expire?

What would happen?

Dineasair · 03/05/2024 18:50

FindThatThing · 03/05/2024 18:02

And ten’s of thousands of women and children have been murdered and more suffering because of israel.
It’s horrible.

I’m sure you are very concerned about that too.

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Of course I am, but if Hamas accepted the ceasefire, released the hostages and stopped using women and children as human shields then that would save an awful of lives. Men make the war, but it’s always women and children who suffer the consequences most, on all sides.

ToWhitToWhoo · 03/05/2024 18:47

Saschka · 03/05/2024 17:35

Exactly - there are extremist nutjobs in every religion. Not reflective of the average worshipper. I’m sure even Buddhism has a few psychos.

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Burma is currently ruled by Buddhist psychos!

Any religion or belief system can be used by authoritarian rulers to oppress their people,

Desecratedcoconut · 03/05/2024 18:11

And ten’s of thousands of women and children have been murdered and more suffering because of israel Hamas.
It’s horrible.

suburburban · 03/05/2024 18:05

@Saschka

Good to hear

FindThatThing · 03/05/2024 18:02

Dineasair · 03/05/2024 16:53

Woman are persecuted in many Islamic countries. I am as concerned with the death of Mahsa Amini and other Muslim women as I am with the rape and parading around the streets in Gaza of Israeli women. This is because they are all women who have suffered at the hands of men, this should not be a difficult concept.

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And ten’s of thousands of women and children have been murdered and more suffering because of israel.
It’s horrible.

I’m sure you are very concerned about that too.

Saschka · 03/05/2024 17:35

Louloulouenna · 03/05/2024 10:23

Funnily enough Hamas etc would agree with the Westboro church on pretty much every single point!

Exactly - there are extremist nutjobs in every religion. Not reflective of the average worshipper. I’m sure even Buddhism has a few psychos.

Saschka · 03/05/2024 17:33

Papyrophile · 03/05/2024 09:04

@Saschka Errr... that's in Topeka, Kansas in the USA. It's not in Weybridge!

This (small) rally was in Germany. People on this thread are panicking about a caliphate being imposed in the UK.

Saschka · 03/05/2024 17:32

suburburban · 03/05/2024 14:59

Most Christians I know are not like that.

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And I don’t know a single Muslim calling for a Caliphate.

Dineasair · 03/05/2024 16:53

Weallknowfrogsgo · 30/04/2024 12:47

The fact that you are applauding the statement that it is Islam that is the problem shows me all i need to know about your ‘feminism’ thanks! Now I don’t have to waste time responding to your feigned concern for Muslim women

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Woman are persecuted in many Islamic countries. I am as concerned with the death of Mahsa Amini and other Muslim women as I am with the rape and parading around the streets in Gaza of Israeli women. This is because they are all women who have suffered at the hands of men, this should not be a difficult concept.

suburburban · 03/05/2024 14:59

Saschka · 03/05/2024 00:17

These people have been protesting for years, but you don’t seem to be worried about Christians rising up and lynching gay people on the streets of Britain.

Why is one bloke with a sign in Germany causing mass panic about British Muslims imposing Sharia law on Weybridge? 🤔

Most Christians I know are not like that.

Louloulouenna · 03/05/2024 10:23

Funnily enough Hamas etc would agree with the Westboro church on pretty much every single point!

Teddleshon · 03/05/2024 09:54

Westboro Baptists?! Not exactly like for like is it- there are 3.9 million Muslims in Britain and according to a recent survey 40% would be in favour of the introduction of sharia law in Britain.

Papyrophile · 03/05/2024 09:04

@Saschka Errr... that's in Topeka, Kansas in the USA. It's not in Weybridge!

Saschka · 03/05/2024 00:17

These people have been protesting for years, but you don’t seem to be worried about Christians rising up and lynching gay people on the streets of Britain.

Why is one bloke with a sign in Germany causing mass panic about British Muslims imposing Sharia law on Weybridge? 🤔

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Shja · 02/05/2024 23:59

Loulou599 · 02/05/2024 23:55

Should you be trying to debate on an online forum when you have basic reading comprehension issues?

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Should you be here if you have difficulty explaining yourself? Hypocrite much?

Shja · 02/05/2024 23:59

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Loulou599 · 02/05/2024 23:55

Shja · 02/05/2024 23:36

Don’t understand what you are trying to say?

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Should you be trying to debate on an online forum when you have basic reading comprehension issues?

PinkTonic · 02/05/2024 23:54

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I have plenty of empathy thank you and don’t tell me to be quiet, I’m not the one spamming the thread.

Shja · 02/05/2024 23:36

Loulou599 · 02/05/2024 23:35

So is using "white privilege" racism or are all white people indeed the same?

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Don’t understand what you are trying to say?