Islam groups calling for caliphate in Germany, aibu to be petrified?

Sorry thats quite incoherent but the post I replied to was saying that life for Muslim women in Islamic countries wasn’t good despite what we’re told. Afghanistan is terrible and (the west is definitely partly responsible) but it’s not representative of the experience of Muslim women as a whole

Can someone help me understand all the "it's fox news" comments - are we saying they've photoshopped the article? Hired a thousand actors? Forced these men out onto the streets against their will just for an article?

@Happyhoppy15

"Can I politely ask why people think sharia law should be introduced for the UK. "

For a start on the major issues like murder, rape, theft etc there is no difference between sharia law and English secular law. So the idea that English secular law would be replaced in its entirety by Sharia law is ridiculous and impractical. For example I don't think Sharia law has a position on what breeds of dog are classed as dangerous!

However on the rare occasions where there is a conflict between Sharia law and English secular law IMO (and happy to be corrected) many Muslims feel that Sharia law should prevail over secular law.

That said it's pretty much a non issue.

They were socialists to some extent. The government was pretty heavily invested in social programs, industry, and infrastructure.

Women in most Islamic countries are constrained by religious laws.

Yeah. you're right, the women in Afghanistan have no mouthpiece. They have no voice, no way of communicating with the world. You disgust me. sitting in your privileged little world, not giving a shit about the suffering of countless women and girls. So hilarious! 😉😂

Ah did the Muslim women who live there all get together and appoint you as their mouth piece?

i must’ve missed that announcement in the monthly global Muslim meeting 😏

This just in - poll of afghan women finds they do in fact like to be oppressed and have basic human rights stripped away.

I mean, are you for real? What kind of Muslim would defend other Muslim girls and women being mistreated just to one up someone on Mumsnet? Or am I missing something?

obviously not saying that but what I was referring to was a post that said life isn’t good for women in Islamic countries despite what ‘they’ tell us.

my point is that Afghanistan is not representative of all Muslim countries

obviously not saying that but what I was referring to was a post that said life isn’t good for women in Islamic countries despite what ‘they’ tell us.

my point is that Afghanistan is not representative of all Muslim countries

Are you for real? Are you suggesting that the women being beaten, killed and arrested are loving it? Winner of the stupidest comment on the thread. For your information the men are actually backing the women up and some have been shot dead for doing it. It’s not just the women who have had enough.

Ah did the Muslim women who live there all get together and appoint you as their mouth piece?

i must’ve missed that announcement in the monthly global Muslim meeting 😏

A much earlier poster suggested that a "benign caliphate" could be good for the UK. I'm not sure people actually get to choose whether they get a benign caliphate or a authoritarian, murderous nightmare caliphate though. So I think I'd rather remain caliphate free.

I actually find it more disturbing and scarey that people on here are championing Sharia Law. It’s a vile law, and has no place in civilised society.

Wikipedia articles are referenced and you can check the page history.

You can also use a VPN if necessary in your country.

Yeah. you're right, the women in Afghanistan have no mouthpiece. They have no voice, no way of communicating with the world. You disgust me. sitting in your privileged little world, not giving a shit about the suffering of countless women and girls. So hilarious! 😉😂

Ah did the Muslim women who live there all get together and appoint you as their mouth piece?

i must’ve missed that announcement in the monthly global Muslim meeting 😏

Ah did the Muslim women who live there all get together and appoint you as their mouth piece?

i must’ve missed that announcement in the monthly global Muslim meeting 😏

This just in - poll of afghan women finds they do in fact like to be oppressed and have basic human rights stripped away.

I mean, are you for real? What kind of Muslim would defend other Muslim girls and women being mistreated just to one up someone on Mumsnet? Or am I missing something?

Interesting that all the posters mocking the OP for using Fox News, as a source.

Not discrediting this has actually happened. You’re not interested that there are people calling for a caliphate but it does interest you someone uses Fox News?

Also, it’s using the words ‘solution’ on the march in Germany, we all know what that is alluding to. I can see from the posters on here already, that that wouldn’t bother them much either.

This whole, YABU to be scared is the same gaslighting nonsense that’s used to silence women and children.

So yes, OP. YANBU if you are scared

Yes, I don’t think that Islamic countries are very good for the women living in them, despite what some would have us believe.

The Wikipedia article? No, I don't think it particularly relevant, I tend to be fussy about my sources. There were many articles detailing the return of fighters at the time, and I'm from the area that sent the most (which is probably why I thought there were more) and know that a lot returned. Shamima Begum's treatment was and is to 'set an example', I don't actually agree she should be refused return (though there may of course be things known to the authorities that are not divulged to the likes of me).

I can reassure you that I most certainly do know the truth in my heart, I have a horrible feeling however that you do not. I therefore think there's little point in continuing this exchange, you have made your position extremely clear - and I think it has been very illuminating in light of the topic of this thread. So I thank you for that, at least.

Yes, I don’t think that Islamic countries are very good for the women living in them, despite what some would have us believe.

As I said in a previous post. It would be nice if you tried to read and UNDERSTAND what I have said. I repeat, There is no greater sin than to hurt another human being.