To still bath with Dd now she’s 7

Your DD will decide when she no longer wants to share your bath. Rather than the need to give children privacy I think what is happening is that parents are almost over sexualising their children unnecessarily.

Absolutely not 😐

To the poster that thinks it’s fine for their 11 and 9 year old to bath with their naked dad - please please read the comments here. If anyone knew in real life what do you think their reaction would be? The fact that their father thinks this is normal is beyond words. (How do you all even fit in a bath anyway. This literally made me feel a bit sick reading it). It’s one thing to wander past quickly naked if getting changed etc but for a adult male to sit in a bath naked with a 11 year old…

To the OP, We’re not a naked family and we’re not naked in front of the children ever, (eldest 6) I just don’t think a child ever wants to / needs to see their parents naked past toddler age but that’s just our opinion

It’s about both age related norms and cultural norms….I’ve lived in Europe and there’s a big difference between the cultural norm of seeing naked bodies of all shapes and sizes and a father not putting in boundaries at the appropriate age and having close physical contact with 2 pubescent girls in a bath. You must have heard about grooming behaviour and that the majority of sexual abuse takes place within families? Most families face choices around the age that the op is talking about ….probably 8 or 9 onwards children become increasing aware of their bodies and also may start exploring their bodies and noticing that there are “ good” sensations associated with certain areas. We start to encourage children to seek privacy for very good reasons and for a dad not to realise this is disturbing.

Nobody is saying that all men are sexual predators, but it's blatantly untrue to say that "our children are no safer with women".
98% of all all sexual crimes are committed by men, and girls and women need to be aware of that.
Safeguarding exists for a reason.

I think if a teacher or other person of responsibility were to find out that an 11 year old girl was still bathing with her Father, that questions would be asked. Sorry if you feel that's bad, but it's the world we live in.

And I don't view all men as sexual predators, but most sexual predators are men.

And I'm not saying for one minute that there is anything inappropriate going on in this situation in those terms, but at 11 years old your body is no longer that of a child and bodily boundaries and privacy need to be encouraged.

Our children are no safer with women

I think you'll find men commit sexual/violent crimes at a far higher rate than women do

That's not to say all women are safe people to be around and all men are dangerous to be around but statistically men are more of a danger.

It's not about being a sexual predator necessarily. It's about privacy. It's why when opposite sex siblings reach a certain age, they no longer share a room and in terms of social housing, a family then becomes eligible for a larger property. Even the state recognises the need for privacy FFS.

So, a mother can be naked with her DC but a father can't?

Guessing none of you have ever been to the EU then.

Christ, if you went to Germany you would have a coronary.

If your DD needed a medical exam, would you prefer if the doctor was male or female?

Same difference.

I wouldn't care, as long as there was adult.supervision where needed. But then I don't think all men are sexual predators.

How many female teachers have been jailed recently for child abuse?

Our children are no safer with women.

You obviously also view all men as predators.

So, same question to you.

What age would you tell your DS that he was a predator and a danger to women?

I also find it disturbing and hope the poster is simply being goady.

this is really disturbing.

100 percent.

My concern here is she knows you like it, and it appears very much, and as such she doesn’t feel able to say no, as she would hurt your feelings.

personlky I think it’s time for privacy. Tell her you don’t need a bath next time, and give her her privacy, set up a seperate time to have one to one. With clothes on.

If your DD was getting changed for pe, would you prefer if the teacher supervising was male or female, assuming both were absolutely no risk to your child and had no ill intent?

Come on no one likes to see their parents nude.

I like this comment so much that I'm quoting it so it might get read again!

Nakedness is perfectly natural, and given the prevalence of manipulated media and social media, having comfort with "normal" bodies is an increasingly important thing in countering the unrealistic/filtered/edited presentations children are bombarded with all the time!

It's because you view all men as sexual predators.

No wonder our young men are in crisis.

If you had a son, at what age would you tell him that he was a danger to women and young girls?

Would you let him be alone with his sister?

How would you cope living with and taking care of a him?

My ten year old still climbs in the bath with me, my oldest sits and chats to me in the bath or asks me to sit in with her.
I’ve even had the cat and dog try and join me 😂

I think better to stop having shared baths before your DD becomes uncomfortable (if she does) than at the time. Fine now, but think of later on.

I don't bathe with my 7 year old but I am naked a lot around them and wee in front of each other

I wouldn't do anything that I would not be happy if they told their friends/ teacher nursery nurse at school

OP (a woman) being naked in front of her 7 year old daughter is fine. However I think it's inappropriate for a man to be naked/share a bath with his older daughters. At 11, I had small breasts and started my period. My body wasn't as childlike as it was when I was 9-10. Your 9 year old will be going through puberty soon too. As a child I saw my parents in their underwear occasionally, but it's not right for a prepubescent (or going through puberty) girl to see her dad naked (and vice versa).

I used to have to sneak away for a bath because if DS2 heard the water he'd arrive bath side and expect to get in until he was 6 or 7 (basically when it became so much of a squeeze in the bath he couldn't play anymore)

Nothing wrong with it. She'll say when she's had enough and wants to bath alone.

Most people based in the UK will also live in Europe. Sorry to be pedantic but I do wonder if other island countries have this - do Japanese people not see themselves as part of Asia?

Anyway, it’s this attitude that’s both annoying and damaging. Nakedness is COOL, right? Any desire for privacy or dignity is just a sign of your own repressed Britishness prudish views. In Europe, they are so very cool and walk around naked and have no issues with it.

It is extremely naive to think that naked adults sharing close personal space with children who are also naked beyond toddlerhood isn’t sending them a message about their bodies and about personal space, namely that it is non existent. That’s when you end up with those sort of situations like the one outlined above where an eleven year old shares a bath with her dad. Not that I believe that post to be honest; it’s someone trying to show how non repressed they are.

We know more about child sexual abuse than perhaps any other time in history. We know it is widespread and we know that it is a problem transcending social classes and professions. We educate our children and we try to teach them a sense of bodily autonomy and don’t just encourage blindly obeying adults. But it still happens. With that knowledge it baffles me that parents encourage bath sharing, bed sharing, nakedness with the ‘oh we’re so cool, not hung up or self conscious at all’

Give children privacy as a right without expecting them to articulate it.

And the UK is in Europe.

I was still having baths with my mum at that age. Probably stopped around age 9.

Different families, different rules.

I don't but not because I think it's wrong but because my son likes to play in the bath and it would not be a fun experience. But our bathroom is a place where we seem to have our best chats, someone will be on the bath and we usually get one child coming in to speak with us. We are pretty relaxed with nudity in our house, even my teens. They have all been brought up with consent, ie when they were young and needed to be washed or dried we would ask if we could. We talk about boundaries etc. we knock on doors before we go in.

I used to live in Europe where there seemed to be a more relaxed attitude to the human body and nakedness.