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Was I rude to this lady?

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Patchymum · 28/04/2024 17:43

I got on a bus yesterday with my DD who is six. She was wearing a backpack with not much in it so it was very light. The bus was quite full, mostly with older people who were sitting near the front. My DD sat down quickly next to an elderly woman as the bus was moving off and she was already getting jolted about. As she sat down I was saying "be careful with your backpack" but as the words were leaving my mouth the bag very lightly bumped the lady on the arm, literally just stroked it. She snatched her arm away, tutted loudly and gave my DD the filthiest look, like she was shit on her shoe.
Had she not done this, the next words out of my mouth would definitely have been an apology but instead I said "she's six years old, she didn't mean it" in a firm voice which I didn't raise.
At the next stop, her and her husband moved seatsto a few rows back but the entire 20 minute journey they both stared at me and DD with horrible sneery mouths, looked us up and down, whispered to each other and shook their heads. I also noticed another man sat near us thar kept looking from me to DD and shaking his head like we were doing something wrong. When we got off the bus I looked back and saw them both staring at us out of the window with the same expressions.
Was I rude or did they over-react?
I've always been very hot on manners with my kids so now I'm worried I set a bad example.

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henlake7 · 01/05/2024 03:56

Im always abit suspicious of people who are given 'evils' by strangers.....esp if its multiple strangers! You never know how much of it is just in their heads!!

I just know Ive been insulted and tutted at a few times when walking my dog by bully owners. I cross the street to avoid them (because one of my dogs is a complete arse and bites other dogs), at which point I get tutts and often random comments about how their precious baby wouldnt hurt a fly and Im being OTT.
I literally couldnt care less about their dog except to save it from my tiny twat of a dog and yet they have already made up an entire narrative in their head about my motives!
Sorry.....abit random I know, its jusst what the OPs post makes me think of!!LOL

GoldenTrout · 01/05/2024 02:05

Patchymum · 28/04/2024 22:30

Yes I could have. I could have left out many descriptive factors in my OP, that you have chosen to ignore because you want to focus on calling me ageist. But as I said, I wanted to enclose as much information as possible to be fair. I found age relevant and so have many others. You are the only person who has an issue with me mentioning age.
So I will respectfully request once more that you please bore off.

No, she's not the only person who has an issue with this. I have one too, not least because your lead has been followed by so many others with no objection from you.

CatsAreBetterThanPpl · 29/04/2024 20:28

OP if you'd have had to get a bus straight after a c section and someone in your position (or their "sweet innocent child" bumped you I'm sure you may not have reacted as well
Have a bit of empathy
Apologise and set a good example in future
Tell your children how to behave on public transport

thistimelastweek · 29/04/2024 20:11

PlipPlopChoo · 28/04/2024 19:09

Bus wankers.

One of my favourite lines of all time!!!!

toomanyy · 29/04/2024 19:09

Patchymum · 28/04/2024 18:07

In 10 years of taking public transport with kids I have NEVER let them kick the back of anyones seat. I also teach them to keep their voices low and we always give up our seats for people that need them more. Basic manners.

That’s good and I’m not saying you do. Just that a parent saying “she's six years old, she didn't mean it" in a firm voice doesn’t help smooth things over after she’s jostled someone. A quick sorry would have done that.

PostItInABook · 29/04/2024 14:54

In today’s episode of ‘aren’t old people just AWFUL’. 🙄

Iwasafool · 29/04/2024 14:50

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 29/04/2024 05:56

I agree. Im not old, but I've had a lot of pain and regular muscle injuries often in multiple parts of my body from a chronic condition. If I protected those injuries constantly Id never be able to go anywhere. Chronic issues get treated very differently to acute one off injuries.

I've got an arthritic right hand, left shoulder that aches from a fracture years ago, an arthritic left hip, right foot healing from a fracture. I'm trying to picture how I'd look trying to protect them all.

WhereIsMyLight · 29/04/2024 07:32

I’m with BIWI on this one. It really doesn’t matter that the woman was elderly. The “overreaction” could be because it was a neurodivergent woman in her twenties. Or a woman in her thirties with young kids at home who just wants to spend the commute not being touched by kids. Or a woman in her forties dealing with menopause. Or a woman in her fifties that hurt her arm in the gym. Or a woman in her sixties who hurt her arm walking the dog when it pulled. Or a woman in her seventies who hurt her arm when her grandchild jumped on her. Or a woman in her eighties with arthritis. Or a woman in her nineties with incredibly frail skin. Or someone who is tired or not feeling well. Or someone has been bumped by 6 backpacks already. Or someone who doesn’t like kids. Or someone who doesn’t like the bus and being bumped by a back pack because the driver didn’t wait, is one of the reasons.

It doesn’t matter why they “overreacted”. Your kid bumped them with a back pack. It wasn’t because she was charging about, that incident isn’t a statement of your parenting. It was an accident. But you lashed out over something you perceived happened. That is the reflection of your parenting that everyone on the bus now has of you.

AnImaginaryCat · 29/04/2024 06:54

Can I just check something, the woman tutted, moved her arm and looked at your child, then moved seats after a while? The rest is just how you chose to interpret everyone's feelings and thoughts?

Even if we are to take your story as definitive, the woman was just being mildly irritable. I'll even give you the woman was being overtly precious.But so what? Total non event. At best it required an "oh sorry" or a hand raise and an "opps" face, or even just no reaction for you.

If the woman started screaming and thrashed around holding her arm, and verbally berated your child then, yes that would have been an overreaction on her part. As it stands it seems it was you who overreacted to the irritable action of another person.

You may have a reason for being over sensitive at that moment and thats why you felt the need for a firm voiced comment. (Just as the woman may have had reason for her irritation.) But it's one interaction with a stranger you'll probably never see again. Whether you were rude or not, you can't change it. Unless there's an insurance claim or your child is having nightmares about it, move on.

DoreenonTill8 · 29/04/2024 06:40

Firefly1987 · 29/04/2024 04:21

Parents are so defensive over their kids these days even if their kids are in the wrong. That's why schools are in such dire straits and so many kids are off the rails. Your kid hit an elderly lady with her bag and neither of you apologised. It's quite likely she could've been on steroids and a slight brush could cause bleeding. And hitting her in the eye was quite possible too. It should've been an automatic "sorry" from both of you. Imagine if it was the other way round and someone accidentally hit your kid! Bet there would be hell to pay and a lot more than stares and tutting.

So now the 6yo has hit her in the eye?!

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 29/04/2024 05:56

GoldenTrout · 28/04/2024 20:34

OP's interpretation of the woman's expression is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting here. For all any of us know, the woman could just have resting bitch face and the whole thing is massively exaggerated by OP.

Bullshit do people constantly protect something like an arthritic arm by holding it. It's impossible to function like that.

I agree. Im not old, but I've had a lot of pain and regular muscle injuries often in multiple parts of my body from a chronic condition. If I protected those injuries constantly Id never be able to go anywhere. Chronic issues get treated very differently to acute one off injuries.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 29/04/2024 05:49

Its not up to you to decide this didn't hurt her. Maybe it was harder then you thought, maybe her skin is fragile, or she has osteoporosis or she has sensory issues or chronic pain. You've decided she overreacted so doesn't deserve an apology yet you don't actually know what it felt like to her. Just apologise next time.

Firefly1987 · 29/04/2024 04:21

Parents are so defensive over their kids these days even if their kids are in the wrong. That's why schools are in such dire straits and so many kids are off the rails. Your kid hit an elderly lady with her bag and neither of you apologised. It's quite likely she could've been on steroids and a slight brush could cause bleeding. And hitting her in the eye was quite possible too. It should've been an automatic "sorry" from both of you. Imagine if it was the other way round and someone accidentally hit your kid! Bet there would be hell to pay and a lot more than stares and tutting.

StellaGibson2022 · 29/04/2024 02:09

Dont give her anymore headspace - who the hell tuts at a 6 year old?

I am a seasoned commuter of many years and like to consider myself as being polite which I have also taught DC. We use public transport daily and the way my DC is treated is shocking. People barging, tutting, dirty looks - all of these experienced in the past week. No wonder children forget their manners when they meet so many intolerant adults on a daily basis.

Oh and if she had just had a blood test and was too fragile for the bus next time she should hospital transport which is still very much available for the frail.

MoonBuggyBugBug · 29/04/2024 01:53

If you get on a bus and bump someone, saying a quick sorry is all that is needed. If they react crazily (like huffing and carrying on), who cares and move seats as soon as possible.

KrisTheGardener · 28/04/2024 23:37

Your posts indicate that maybe your DD fell into the seat a bit, so maybe it felt to the woman that she had fallen against her, rather than lightly brushed? It's easy to fall a bit when the bus is jolting.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she already had pain in the arm or elsewhere? Maybe she has a reason you don't know? Maybe she didn't like the idea of a child next to her who might repeatedly accidentally brush or fall against her?

I'd just have said a passing apology and that would probably have been it for the ride. Even if the woman was a bit grumpy, that's on her and I wouldn't make it my problem.

Applescruffle · 28/04/2024 23:24

BIWI · 28/04/2024 23:23

... which was clear a joke!

An ageist joke

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/04/2024 23:24

Rosestulips · 28/04/2024 22:55

It’s not ageist though. 🙄 OP described what happened

I get annoyed with posters with bees and their bonnet trying to derail threads.

lots of other things get on my nerves on here too but I won’t derail the thread.

With bees and their bonnet, you say? 😉

BIWI · 28/04/2024 23:23

... which was clear a joke!

Applescruffle · 28/04/2024 23:22

BIWI · 28/04/2024 23:07

@Applescruffle it was the OP who told me to 'bore off!'

Yes, I know, and then you asked the OP "how old are you" after complaining about ageism throughout the entire thread 😂😂😂

LunaJessica · 28/04/2024 23:14

She’s a little girl and it was accident, the woman should have given you both some grace

Minniliscious · 28/04/2024 23:10

You should’ve done this 🖕🏻as the bus drove off.

BIWI · 28/04/2024 23:07

@Applescruffle it was the OP who told me to 'bore off!'

Noseybookworm · 28/04/2024 23:05

You sound like you were a bit stroppy to be honest 😏 You should have apologised and helped your little one take off the backpack before getting on the bus. Being bumped by other people's backpacks is annoying!

Mwnci123 · 28/04/2024 22:57

I'd have been inclined to give them the finger as the bus passed by.