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"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 17:05

AIBU to believe this is fake news, hype at best??

Indeed, some may be going to "Ireland,! and may have been doing so
for the last two years anyway.s or so.

Therefore, what was the number of migrants/boat people that went to Ireland from Jan 1st and Dec 31st in 2022 and the year ending 2023??

As I've said many times, I don't trust any politician or political party for that matter as they are on the whole, in it for themselves.

Message to Rishi Sunak, PM - Please give us the numbers. (I bet you it is no different to what was happening previously)

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

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Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:17

@BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants to get in get visas and jobs and bring their families over is all i assume.

@DanielGault imigrants that can come here and work etc yes but these are illegal and can not work or provide for themselves either. Then we have the sham of direct provision. I am not now and never have been a whole 'help our own first' because sometimes 'our own' want to benefit from the state but the housing crisis is ridiculous here. Our hotels are now taken over by refugees from Ukraine which is costing towns and villages money because it takes away from tourism. I fully get a lot of immigrants over the years have taken on jobs Irish people will not do but the housing crisis is because we have a care of duty to house people coming here and we really cannot house Irish people.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:12

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:03

I am Irish and there is loads of people from outside the eu now and lots coming in from u.k. to Northern Ireland YES and loads coming in on planes with passports and then supposedly lose them on the plane. Should not be allowed off the plane without said passport and sent back to where they came from. Cannot house our own and we have taken in vast numbers and so many from Ukraine and really looked after them but people are pissed off now with our so called open borders and government doing sweet fuck all. Closing nursing homes to accommodate immigrants. Has to stop now as we are a small country and we have more than done our bit. Boats have to be stopped before they leave to come to all our shores.

'cannot house our own' has been going on for decades. There are definitely problems with our immigration policy, but lack of social housing here is due to failure by multiple governments to provide for it. It's not immigrants. The economy wouldn't be what it is without immigrants. The health system woi collapse overnight without them. 'our own' is a load of me bollix in that regard.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:06

Also why is it only young males in their 20's/30's leaving their supposedly unsafe countries, the women are more in danger there than anyone and loads claiming to be gay and saying they will be persecuted if they go back. It has just got out of control and people are fed up and angry. Cannot open your mouth here or you get called far right.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:03

I am Irish and there is loads of people from outside the eu now and lots coming in from u.k. to Northern Ireland YES and loads coming in on planes with passports and then supposedly lose them on the plane. Should not be allowed off the plane without said passport and sent back to where they came from. Cannot house our own and we have taken in vast numbers and so many from Ukraine and really looked after them but people are pissed off now with our so called open borders and government doing sweet fuck all. Closing nursing homes to accommodate immigrants. Has to stop now as we are a small country and we have more than done our bit. Boats have to be stopped before they leave to come to all our shores.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 19:58

@Solgrass yes but that aside it now seems that this is being subcontracted out to Ireland to deal with.

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:49

Irish courts have deemed that Britain is no longer classes as a safe haven. Therefore people are crossing to border to register in Ireland.

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:41

GrumpyPanda · 28/04/2024 18:00

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or just very, very ignorant? Under the Dublin regulation, migrant claims are to be processed by the country in which they first entered the Union (which incidentally will only in the rarest of cases happen to be France.) Obviously this doesn't apply to secondary migration from the UK.

Go read again before you comment

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 18:00

romdowa · 28/04/2024 17:56

I don't think Simon Harris is a gay man of Indian descent?

That's been cleared up for me thanks, see above.

GrumpyPanda · 28/04/2024 18:00

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 17:24

France won’t take them back because we are no longer part of the EU.

Ireland is, so arrangements can be made with the EU regarding where to place people.

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or just very, very ignorant? Under the Dublin regulation, migrant claims are to be processed by the country in which they first entered the Union (which incidentally will only in the rarest of cases happen to be France.) Obviously this doesn't apply to secondary migration from the UK.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:58

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:54

Oh do not start me on that. One day Leo, then Micheal then the walking corpse. We dont make it easy for ourselves but yes I get you. I just think that Britain will not leave us alone till they get some kind of border which they failed to get in brexit.

You'd wonder though, it feels like nobody wants the North sometimes. It's a poisoned chalice in a way. Too much hassle for either side. Leave them to their own devices etc. I wonder what the future holds.

SocksAndTheCity · 28/04/2024 17:57

The OP isn't a 'she', @DanielGault .

romdowa · 28/04/2024 17:56

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:50

I adore the fact that OP has just been looking up Ireland's demographics and deigns to 'inform' us all of her exciting findings. Like Ireland is some some sort of mythical, parallel universe. She must live under a fucking rock. Our Taoiseach is a gay man of Indian descent for example. We are a nation of people who emigrated and we have had a lot of immigrants in the last 20 years. Not without it's problems but on the whole has been a huge benefit for the country.

I don't think Simon Harris is a gay man of Indian descent?

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:54

Oh do not start me on that. One day Leo, then Micheal then the walking corpse. We dont make it easy for ourselves but yes I get you. I just think that Britain will not leave us alone till they get some kind of border which they failed to get in brexit.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:53

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:51

@DanielGault Our Taoiseach is a straight white Irish man I think you will find.

Lol, sorry, the taoiseach switching business has my head wrecked! But you get the general point!

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:52

However going back to us being mythical sure you only have to look at the twats that voted for brexit and when asked questions about Ireland genuinely did not know 26 of our counties were nothing to do with them.

KestrelMoon · 28/04/2024 17:52

lol, people are still coming here. If some are still going to Ireland it is because they are a richer country, with better opportunities and a better human rights record, not because they are afraid of us shipping them to Rwanda.

heldinadream · 28/04/2024 17:52

mactire · 28/04/2024 17:20

I look forward to seeing all the UK people who say “France should take them” being fully supportive of the Irish sending these immigrants back to Britain.

Yes! Totally this.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:51

@DanielGault Our Taoiseach is a straight white Irish man I think you will find.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:50

I adore the fact that OP has just been looking up Ireland's demographics and deigns to 'inform' us all of her exciting findings. Like Ireland is some some sort of mythical, parallel universe. She must live under a fucking rock. Our Taoiseach is a gay man of Indian descent for example. We are a nation of people who emigrated and we have had a lot of immigrants in the last 20 years. Not without it's problems but on the whole has been a huge benefit for the country.

TextureSeeker · 28/04/2024 17:48

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 17:32

Number?/ Numbers as per my OP?

I'm sure there are but a handful.

I've just been looking up Irelands demographics - hardly any people there from outside the EU

Google it? Seriously it doesn't take much.

To date in 2024, 6,739 people have applied for asylum, of these, 6,136, or 91 per cent, were first encountered by the authorities when they arrived in Dublin city, indicating the vast majority crossed the border from Northern Ireland after leaving Britain.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/asylum-claims-in-ireland-to-more-than-double-this-year-xl63kf9ws#:~:text=To%20date%20in%202024%2C%206%2C739,Northern%20Ireland%20after%20leaving%20Britain.

Asylum claims in Ireland to more than double this year

Government fury over the British prime minister Rishi Sunak’s crowing on the success of Rwanda deportation plan

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/asylum-claims-in-ireland-to-more-than-double-this-year-xl63kf9ws#:~:text=To%20date%20in%202024%2C%206%2C739,Northern%20Ireland%20after%20leaving%20Britain.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:48

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 17:24

France won’t take them back because we are no longer part of the EU.

Ireland is, so arrangements can be made with the EU regarding where to place people.

Scapegoating us will not work this time I am afraid.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:46

Also yis can feck off thinking we are going to scratch your back after all ye have put us through.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:42

OP do you work for sky news cos I lost the remote control here a few hours ago and have that stuck on in the background and sky news is also bloody obsessed with us Irish and this Rwanda thing.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:39

ClawdeenWolf · 28/04/2024 17:38

Jesus wept, haven't you got a bloody life?

Evidently not 😂😂😂

ClawdeenWolf · 28/04/2024 17:38

Jesus wept, haven't you got a bloody life?