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"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 17:05

AIBU to believe this is fake news, hype at best??

Indeed, some may be going to "Ireland,! and may have been doing so
for the last two years anyway.s or so.

Therefore, what was the number of migrants/boat people that went to Ireland from Jan 1st and Dec 31st in 2022 and the year ending 2023??

As I've said many times, I don't trust any politician or political party for that matter as they are on the whole, in it for themselves.

Message to Rishi Sunak, PM - Please give us the numbers. (I bet you it is no different to what was happening previously)

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 21:54

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 21:24

Thus being the ENTIRE point of the thread and the entire point of all the news recently. The point being cos they cant get into the UK they are coming to us instead.

Who told you "they can't get into the UK"?? Do you not have Google and watch BBC/Sky/IT news etc??? We are seeing boat loads every day when the weathers calm

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DanielGault · 28/04/2024 21:54

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 21:53

So you have read my post and stated what I have been posting for a while. Incredible.

Yeah. Right.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 21:53

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 21:07

I hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of politicians have always been in it for themselves to some extent. That's life. Some are worse than others. But it's generally par for the course.

So you have read my post and stated what I have been posting for a while. Incredible.

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Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 21:24

Bumblebeeinatree · 28/04/2024 20:51

If we are talking southern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland , it's really nothing to do with the UK. I'm sure they didn't care about immigrants going to the UK.

Thus being the ENTIRE point of the thread and the entire point of all the news recently. The point being cos they cant get into the UK they are coming to us instead.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 21:07

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:58

I totally agree.

As a south Asain (my parents and us arrived in England in the very early 60's)
The "right" wing do not need an excuse to stir up racial hatred/division

The longer this political fiasco re boats/send to Rawda goes on the worse it will become. Importantly, even if the scheme goes ahead, I bet you no more than a couple of hundred will be deported and some of them may find themselves back here

For immigrants from non EU nations that want to settle/work in England, it costs them thousands for visa applications and citizenships and 5 years and lots of money for citizenship and rightly so they have to support themselves. This is unlike those who come via boat routes

This Tory government is aiding the uprising rise in right-wing extremist groups like that of the 70's

Mr Sunak aka PM must concentrate on what matters to those in England, EG, NHS, much shorter waiting lists, reduce taxes, better roads, better schools, rewarding those that work hard, etc, etc rather than try to bring life into a crap idea that is overpriced and worthless and useless all in the name of politics to make the Tories look good

The Labour clowns are no better as the boats need to stop and what do they propose, that's right, fuck all.

If I was your PM - I'd take the attitude the French take, no ifs, no buts, and deal with the problem in hand by making new rules overnight

Re boar people, the majority are genuine refugees and that can't be argued with. The fact remains that these refugees and financial refugees are already in a so-called safe country as all come via the EU and therefore must not be allowed to stay in England.

As I've said many times, the politicians are in it for themselves and if you cant see that, then there is no hope for you.

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I hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of politicians have always been in it for themselves to some extent. That's life. Some are worse than others. But it's generally par for the course.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:58

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:34

There are plenty of people blaming the immigrants! There are also plenty just crying out for facilities themselves without an anti immigration agenda. But the longer they mismanage this, the further right we'll go, out of pure frustration. Either way, it's not a direction we want to be going in.

I totally agree.

As a south Asain (my parents and us arrived in England in the very early 60's)
The "right" wing do not need an excuse to stir up racial hatred/division

The longer this political fiasco re boats/send to Rawda goes on the worse it will become. Importantly, even if the scheme goes ahead, I bet you no more than a couple of hundred will be deported and some of them may find themselves back here

For immigrants from non EU nations that want to settle/work in England, it costs them thousands for visa applications and citizenships and 5 years and lots of money for citizenship and rightly so they have to support themselves. This is unlike those who come via boat routes

This Tory government is aiding the uprising rise in right-wing extremist groups like that of the 70's

Mr Sunak aka PM must concentrate on what matters to those in England, EG, NHS, much shorter waiting lists, reduce taxes, better roads, better schools, rewarding those that work hard, etc, etc rather than try to bring life into a crap idea that is overpriced and worthless and useless all in the name of politics to make the Tories look good

The Labour clowns are no better as the boats need to stop and what do they propose, that's right, fuck all.

If I was your PM - I'd take the attitude the French take, no ifs, no buts, and deal with the problem in hand by making new rules overnight

Re boar people, the majority are genuine refugees and that can't be argued with. The fact remains that these refugees and financial refugees are already in a so-called safe country as all come via the EU and therefore must not be allowed to stay in England.

As I've said many times, the politicians are in it for themselves and if you cant see that, then there is no hope for you.

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Bumblebeeinatree · 28/04/2024 20:51

If we are talking southern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland , it's really nothing to do with the UK. I'm sure they didn't care about immigrants going to the UK.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:50

I am civil servant with friends working for Ipo, (DoJ) I used to work for the DSP. I see what's happening. Another x colleague is working for DCEDIY finding hotel accommodation for migrants. There are migrants in tents outside my office. Is that enough? I probably couldn't sleep if I knew more.

Ireland wants to be the good kids in EU class and keeps committing to taking more migrants.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:50

FearMe · 28/04/2024 20:48

Umm he resigned, did you not hear?

Please see up thread.

FearMe · 28/04/2024 20:48

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:50

I adore the fact that OP has just been looking up Ireland's demographics and deigns to 'inform' us all of her exciting findings. Like Ireland is some some sort of mythical, parallel universe. She must live under a fucking rock. Our Taoiseach is a gay man of Indian descent for example. We are a nation of people who emigrated and we have had a lot of immigrants in the last 20 years. Not without it's problems but on the whole has been a huge benefit for the country.

Umm he resigned, did you not hear?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:45

roarrfeckingroar · 28/04/2024 20:36

The French police should take a large knife to every boat they find (obviously in shallow water / before anyone gets I )

Stop being hideously ridiculous. If the "French police" was able to get to the dingy's, it would be on land and no need, no need whatsoever, "to take a knife to every boat..."

The French cops just take the boat off them, simples.

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DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:44

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:43

Where about is you in Ireland - any news stories to back up your comments, please?

You're not great on sources yourself bud 🤔

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:43

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:22

I believe it. I'm Irish. Things are ridiculous here.

Where about is you in Ireland - any news stories to back up your comments, please?

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roarrfeckingroar · 28/04/2024 20:36

The French police should take a large knife to every boat they find (obviously in shallow water / before anyone gets I )

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:36

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:49

Irish courts have deemed that Britain is no longer classes as a safe haven. Therefore people are crossing to border to register in Ireland.

That really does beggar belief. Wtf?

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:34

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:28

Ireland is seen now as the overflow because of brexit!

@DanielGault well what else can they do? And they have housed Irish people in the hotels. No choice. Nobody is blaming immigrants. People are blaming the government and the fact we have rolled over for so long and that has been to our own detriment but now it is worse because of the UK so we have to take measures.

There are plenty of people blaming the immigrants! There are also plenty just crying out for facilities themselves without an anti immigration agenda. But the longer they mismanage this, the further right we'll go, out of pure frustration. Either way, it's not a direction we want to be going in.

AgnesX · 28/04/2024 20:32

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:46

Also yis can feck off thinking we are going to scratch your back after all ye have put us through.

😁

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:30

I think Leo is a narcissist. He has his version of reality, his vision, and anybody who wants to give feedback is attacked with labels.
I've never voted sinn fein but Leo and Micheál condemn sinn fein for populism.
Does populism mean listening to the electorate and trying to deliver. That's populism, and it's bad apparently. 🤨😐

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:28

Ireland is seen now as the overflow because of brexit!

@DanielGault well what else can they do? And they have housed Irish people in the hotels. No choice. Nobody is blaming immigrants. People are blaming the government and the fact we have rolled over for so long and that has been to our own detriment but now it is worse because of the UK so we have to take measures.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:27

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:26

I didnt watch the LLS on friday, but Leo has moved on from calling us far right if we want a cap on migrants, now he's calling us racists.

It's so infuriating..

He is dead inside. I know two people from two different social circles who know him, and neither has a good word to say.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:26

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:06

Also why is it only young males in their 20's/30's leaving their supposedly unsafe countries, the women are more in danger there than anyone and loads claiming to be gay and saying they will be persecuted if they go back. It has just got out of control and people are fed up and angry. Cannot open your mouth here or you get called far right.

I didnt watch the LLS on friday, but Leo has moved on from calling us far right if we want a cap on migrants, now he's calling us racists.

It's so infuriating..

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:24

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:17

@BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants to get in get visas and jobs and bring their families over is all i assume.

@DanielGault imigrants that can come here and work etc yes but these are illegal and can not work or provide for themselves either. Then we have the sham of direct provision. I am not now and never have been a whole 'help our own first' because sometimes 'our own' want to benefit from the state but the housing crisis is ridiculous here. Our hotels are now taken over by refugees from Ukraine which is costing towns and villages money because it takes away from tourism. I fully get a lot of immigrants over the years have taken on jobs Irish people will not do but the housing crisis is because we have a care of duty to house people coming here and we really cannot house Irish people.

But there's no way they could house Irish people in those hotels. Long term at least. I just think immigrants are getting the blame for government inaction and it really grinds my gears. There was so much money sloshing around and they did nothing with it. I'm an 'almost victim ' of a need for social housing and every day I wake up thankful that I managed to avoid it.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:22

I believe it. I'm Irish. Things are ridiculous here.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:18

Yes of course it is the useless government but people are coming in from so called safe countries and has been going on for years. Sorry have to disagree with what you have said and everyone of us entitled to our opinion. Am very open minded as lived London for years and loved the mix of nationalities but there is no proper control here. No facilities, doctors, schools etc, housing is crap. Ireland seen as the soft touch now since O'Gorman posted his document in loads of different languages telling everyone Ireland is open and housing for all. People are fed up now with it all.