"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

The issue is enforcement. I don't think that will happen; the UK doesn't have to accept it as a third country, and the border is porous. Legally all that has to happen is that on entry into Ireland, the asylum seeker claims there and disclaims any other claim made (UK or elsewhere). That is international law. So it's what the asylum seeker does in response to the UK's change of law that matters. UK policy can be very regressive, but the ability for an asylum seeker to claim in any country is the issue. Ireland would need to manage that issue or be breaking its own international commitments

I work with IPAS applicants the vast majority are female with young kids don't believe all you read

All EU countries are adamant but what they don’t have is agreement from the country to take the returns

Pretty much all are saying no these days

Going by pp it’s the agreement that’s required

I get the strength of feeling but stricter policy re-routes people, and countries who don’t want to be the ‘loophole’ or more attractive new route will need their own stricter border policies - that’s not returns though

@Whenwillitgetwarm it was not a famine. It was genocide. That is the issue.

Yes I do as a matter of fact. And my points still stand. Why is the Irish leaving because of starvation more worthy of respect than people fleeing war and hunger today? If I’m an Afghan woman running from the Taliban or a South Sudanese fleeing famine, am I less deserving than someone who left Ireland during the potato famine?

All EU countries that are adamant about it. And we are both.

The emergency legislation to return migrants?

Because if it was possible all EU countries could implement the same and just return people

Why do you not think it will happen? Because this is Ireland and we just roll over and do as we are told? Listen to what is being said on the news. Legislation is in place and we are not going to be the fallguy for britain ever again.

A law is a law. Britain needs to learn this.

So you don’t want these extra migrants?

What’s the plan? I don’t think emergency legislation will happen so you’ll have to resolve with your own border policies

Put a wall around the entire place and call it the asylum it is 😂

Doubt she is if she is British herself. They do not teach correct history in Britain.

Whoever said about us Irish having to clean up the mess of the English are correct. Sunak has done what history has taught him to do, throw Ireland to the wolves however what he is missing is the part where we no longer just say 'yes sir'.

The British government are still licking their wounds because they did not get their own way with a border when they brought in brexit and now like toddlers trying everything to get their way.

One more step towards a united ireland. Put a hard border up between Britain and Ireland then Ireland will be control their borders and immigration policy,

Are you aware of any of the reasons why the Irish were forced to emigrate?

You seem very bitter.
You also seem very happy to support UK xenophobic policy.

I do wonder if how much this whole thing has inflamed is because people see it as cleaning up after the Brits again rather than a problem with the actual asylum seekers. I know Brexit and Covid really made people here go ffs. All of that time and money we have had to waste because of it, people are sick of our time and money being wasted because the UK is a shit show. On Irish forums I have seen lots of people suggesting this will accelerate the call for a United Ireland just so we can rid of the land border with the UK and start distancing ourselves from them. People are really sick of having to bear the brunt of UK politics and just want to pull the drawbridge up and say fuck up your own country if you wish but the centuries of you fucking with ours need to end.

However Ireland OBVIOUSLY do not have capacity to take a MASSIVE number of immigrants fleeing from the UK due to xenophobic UK government policy. Yet again Ireland are left to deal with issues dumped on them by the UK government.
@Evanna13
Perhaps the immigrants ultimate aim is to get to Ireland? They have walked through the EU to arrive in France, need to get to the UK because it's too far to dinghy-it to Ireland. Then they reach their destination. Everyone keeps saying how welcoming and rich Ireland is compared to the UK. Surely they hear this too.

Plus the UK OBVIOUSLY does not have the capacity to take the MASSIVE number of immigrants fleeing from France. Yet again the UK are left to deal with issues dumped on them by the EU's leaky, totally wide open borders due to FOM. Fix that first.

Maybe tackle the problem at source and stop blaming 'the middle man'. And point your finger at Angela Merkel who shouted loud to the world that the EU (and the UK) is open for come-one-come-all and we will look after you.

Yes, it is wonderful to have such a fantastic Irish diaspora throughout the world.
Unfortunately the reasons the Irish had to travel are not so pleasant. The actions of the UK government have had a massive role in the Irish people having to emigrate.
The vast majority of Irish people are happy to take immigrants. The number of white Irish in Ireland is the same as the number of white British in England/Wales. However Ireland OBVIOUSLY do not have capacity to take a MASSIVE number of immigrants fleeing from the UK due to xenophobic UK government policy. Yet again Ireland are left to deal with issues dumped on them by the UK government.

Politicians talking about ‘loopholes’ will get us to voters asking for stronger border control pdq

To be fair though the Irish are on shaky ground complaining about immigration when they’re probably the nation with the most world wide immigrants of all time.

You could rock up to a remote archipelago in the middle of the Pacific and find an Irish person or someone of Irish descent already living there! lol!

Mmmm. Numbers jumped up by white, Catholic Ukrainians perhaps.

We're talking about men in dinghies here.

You personally may not but there is a difference in the processing of Ukrainians amd asylum seekers. There is a difference between how long Ukrainian are housed by the state and Ukrainians can work in Ireland from pretty much day 1. That is why they are usually put in different columns.

Ireland are already factoring into their plans for the future the fact that lots of Ukrainians will wish to stay here. Its estimated between 50 and 60% will.

Despite claims by another poster of Ireland being 'monocultural' Ireland is 82% 'White Irish', England and Wales are 81.7% 'White British' so the 2 are pretty similar. Despite what posters here may claim Ireland is no stranger to immigration these days and hasn't been for quite a while now.

3/4 of all recent immigrants in Ireland are Ukrainian. I personally make no distinction between which war asylum seekers are fleeing. If they’re running from Putin or Boko Haram it’s all pretty awful.

I’m also willing to bet that most of the Ukrainians will never return to Ukraine now they have established lives in Ireland. Same for the others.

Well said Evanna13. Agree with you totally. Rushi will be gone soon as useless leader. U.K. needs to sort itself out regards immigration as a shit show and Ireland needs to get some immigration laws that work and that they will enforce as seen as a soft touch.

Yup, we're an international pariah. Whose Rwanda policy is about to be copied by a host of EU countries (though credit to Denmark for being the originator).

Anyone still wondering about the benefits of Brexit?