"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

Absolutely agree - I wish that Ireland would steer the conversation away from that.

The thing is that it suits the UK government to say that the Rwanda policy is working and people are going to Ireland.

And it suits the Irish government to say that most asylum seekers are coming over the soft border with Northern Ireland. Asylum seekers have recently become a hotter issue here mainly due to the housing crisis. This makes the government look like they are doing something about it.

The question I have is if people want to claim asylum in Ireland what can be done about that?

Even with the CTA how do you prevent movement or enforce it?

And then you have hotels who agree to close as a tourist spot and house 500 ukranians and the fire cert only covers half that.

By the way, not just a housing crisis, idiots burning every building and campsite they think refugees may have allocated to them. Ireland is in a heap at the moment

There’s a housing crisis in the UK as well.

It is not all that funny to think that being in a forest is what happens to refugees between Poland and Bulgaria. They are pushed back between the two countries. And in effect this happens between the UK and France albeit the Channel is in the middle.

It's possible that if this story is true that with a slightly hard border for immigration between UK and Ireland that you would have these camps in the NI side trying to reach Ireland. It will be an ugly business all round.

Perhaps we could set up a marquee somewhere in a forest and let them forrage for their meals.

Honestly Ireland has the space. Give me strength. We can't afford to take back the 6 counties of NI let alone hundreds of thousands of refugees.

No problem at all so long as they don't mind living without a roof over their head. There is a housing crisis in Ireland.

Right? And the UK can take Maltas, the Netherlands and Belgiums. There really shouldn't be an issue using your simplistic calculations.

So your argument is Ireland has lower density so should take more people? Really? Don't think that's how it works, it is based on things such as percentage per head of population.

Re boar people, the majority are genuine refugees and that can't be argued with.

Who are the boar people? Are they like the wolves swimming over from the Belgium?

I hope you are right @Dulra but I don't think you are

hopefully the Irish Government will stop mentioning it and it won't become Westminster talking point (which would be a bad idea generally)

But the majority of the UK population have never heard of it - don't really care about it and won't particularly defend it if push comes to shove - that's the point I am making

I don't agree, a lot of people have heard of it, use it and would not want to lose it.

I fail to see the issue here. The population density of Ireland is 72 people per square kilometre, compared with 279 people per square kilometre in the UK. Ireland has nearly four times as much room. And we all accept that Ireland is non-racist, inclusive and progressive. So what’s the problem? Surely, this is a win-win for all?

I'm not saying the CTA means nothing. But it's not the cure for this. What could Ireland do, insist that the UK make passport checks within its own borders? No, it can't ask for that. Ireland won't get it. It would undermine the CTA anyway. That is presumably half the problem

yes I know that - I am arguing for it! I benefit from it as do my family and many of my friends
But the majority of the UK population have never heard of it - don't really care about it and won't particularly defend it if push comes to shove - that's the point I am making
Most people have never been to Ireland and do not want to work there or live there - that's the situation.

Matters very much to english and Irish people that travel and work between Ireland and Britain daily. Things only matter to you when they directly impact you. It has become a lot more important since Brexit and ensures Irish and UK citizens can not only travel but also work and study freely between the two nations. Not sure why people are so flippant about it. Dublin and Heathrow is one of the busiest flight routes in Europe.
Irish and UK citizens have the right to live, travel, work and study within the Common Travel Area.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government-in-ireland/ireland-and-the-uk/common-travel-area-between-ireland-and-the-uk/#:~:text=The%20Common%20Travel%20Area%20(CTA,travel%20freely%20between%20both%20countries.

If the CTA means we have to accept illegal migrants from France that have travelled through the UK (it doesn't) then the spotlight will quickly turn on the CTA in Westminster and why it exists and who gains from it and what it brings to the table. Do it's positives out weigh it's negatives? I say yes but that's what people with no skin in the game will start to ask.
If it becomes such a negative for the UK that people begin to question it's existence that would not be good for the Irish and the Brits that care about it (including me).

I don't think that the Irish government assume this at all but they are not going to come out and say the truth about what they really think of Rishi Sunak.

The major benefit of the CTA is between Ireland and NI. It benefits both countries here.
It also hugely benefitted Irish people in the past but not so many Irish going to the UK anymore.

I think the Irish Government would be mad to assume that the UK Government will put the CTA above their immigration policy. They won't.

Who gets the major benefit of it? It's pretty weak to insist that what is, in legal terms, a gents agreement is going to fix returns when you have Simon Harris saying he's got s good relationship with Rishi Sunak when the practical end won't even meet to discuss. Rishi Sunak is desperate. He will just say no. This guy wants to give his own disabled citizens vouchers to live on. He is not a sympathetic kind of guy.

Very few people seem to know about the CTA - certainly not the Ryanair person who told me off at City of Derry airport for using my driving licence as photo ID. SInce then Ryanair have tightened it up so that you need a passport before they will fly you on a UK domestic flight (I know not strictly CTA but you get the general drift).

I cannot imagine any serious person wants to end the CTA - it's our pre-Schengen Schengen, pre FOM FOM.

@Dulra
Belfast telegraph have a big article (don't need to subscribe to view)

I am not sure what will happen.
I don't think the UK government will make it easy for Ireland anyway.

I wonder who forced the initial Irish to have to flee their homeland?

Definitely:)
I think the normal English and Irish people have so much in common and generally get on great. And relations between the two governments were getting to a good place pre Brexit.
It's such a shame the way things are now.