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To think Ahhhhhh to loud phones and tablets in cafes and restaurants

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Isitthathardtobekind · 28/04/2024 15:57

Have we reached a stage where restaurants and cafes need to put signs up to ask that families don’t allow their children to use loud phones and tablets that can be heard by other tables?

Last 3 times I’ve been out -
1st time - children watching Minions on a phone with volume turned up for the whole room to hear. Parent told them at one point to turn it down; they didn’t and it continued. Thought at least it would stop when their food came, but no- they propped it up and ate their food. No conversation or anything just loud Minions.

2nd time- 2 mum friends and 2 toddlers - one in a high chair. Phone on loud. Again thought at least it will stop when their food comes. No change when food arrives. The phone gets stuck in front of them while they eat. Again loud enough to impact on most tables in the room.

3rd time (today)- family arrive, including who I assume was the grandparent. No one spoke to the children. Very loud phone on playing music and talking, including while the waitress took their order (so loud I imagine it was tricky for the waitress to hear them). Luckily we were about to pay and leave.

Giving a tablet or phone to a child in a restaurant is one thing (although not something I do personally), but to not expect them to keep it no volume or with headphones so it doesn’t impact on others is surely totally selfish.
Are we really at a stage where adults can’t manage these things and have some respect for others and so restaurants and cafes need to set some rules around it?

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Maverickess · 01/05/2024 20:05

Honestly as a member of 'the staff' we can put up all the signs we like and ask people until we're blue in the face - if you're lucky you get ignored, if not then you end up with a confrontational situation and a scene that's worse than the original problem and makes everyone uncomfortable (who then complain and want compensation for their ruined meal, and somehow you get bollocked simultaneously for trying to keep it comfortable for everyone and not doing enough).

It drives me nuts as well both as a customer and as a member of staff, but people who behave like that don't care about the effect on other people in the first place and as 'the staff' we're bottom of the food chain and the least respected and least listened to in the whole situation, so they either ignore you or use it as a reason to make a big fuss and play the victim. And then there's the obligatory review which will paint you like a child hater.

But, the customer is always right and all that so......... 🤷🏼‍♀️.

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 01/05/2024 19:34

There's a viewpoint next to me with lovely views and it's popular to sit there and watch the sunrise.

Was there last weekend with OH. Several other couples/family groups were there but it was very quiet.

All of a sudden there was a commotion when a couple with a teen girl and a younger boy turned up. The boy immediately whipped out a tablet and started watching cartoons at full volume. The girl had a half full wine glass with a strawberry on the rim and was standing in front of people trying to do arty Insta pics. The mother had a smear on her lens which made the sun look like a lightsabre on her pictures and she screamed loudly and laughed theatrically several times about her lightsabre pics. They all had to have a go having their picture taken with the lightsabre.

It properly ruined a romantic cuddle that did!

AmazingBouncingFerret · 01/05/2024 19:18

I can’t stand it. I work in a coffee shop and I have to tell parents not to because it sends me spiralling and I’m unable to concentrate on my customers. It has a rippling effect on the entire shop, the parents will instantly start chatting louder, the tables around them increase in volume too, then it just flows around the room until everyone is that little bit louder than usual and all of a sudden we can’t hear what customers are ordering and everybody being served or waiting is that tiny little bit more vexed because of Noise. Because of one toddler needing to stare at a screen rather than be talked to and played with.

Isitthathardtobekind · 01/05/2024 18:58

@Puzzledandpissedoff true, although I think it’s more about parenting in general and children in general. I don’t think it’s always just children with additional needs.

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FinallyPregnant23 · 30/04/2024 22:16

I completely agree OP! I hate it so much, it really bothers me, I don’t understand how people don’t think it’s so rude.

i was waiting for an antenatal appointment in a hospital a few weeks ago and there was a male partner in the waiting room who was playing games on his phone with the volume up loud! Couldn’t believe it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2024 22:12

Sirzy · 28/04/2024 16:00

It drives me mad, but a lot of people seem to think their needs/desires override others.

i got a lot of abuse of an autism FB group this week for saying it’s not acceptable with people basically saying their child needs it so everyone else has to get on with it. Sadly people tend to forget the reasonable part of reasonable adjustment too often and think their needs over rule everything.

Yes, and this is why signs would probably make no difference - cue the cries of "they'll melt down / scream / want to run around instead and that'll be worse"

Isitthathardtobekind · 30/04/2024 22:01

@TinyRebel I wish I could be a bit more like that. I hate any type of confrontation though so I’m not brave enough!

I agree with the tutting/looking. At the cafe the other day, I noticed at least one person on most tables look round towards the loud phone a few times, but they were oblivious or if they weren’t, they couldn’t care less!

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TinyRebel · 30/04/2024 21:31

I tend to open my mouth and phrases like “Nobody else needs to listen to that noise, can you use headphones please?” fall out😳 My kids are often mortified at me confronting strangers but 9/10 times it works. Tutting and being annoyed doesn’t work though.

I haven’t been beaten up yet.

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/04/2024 21:24

like it was a fucking kazoo

Proper LOL.

I was thinking 'like she thinks she's in star trek'.

mitogoshi · 30/04/2024 21:24

@surreygirl1987

Same here, hangman, the boxes game anything to occupy and they hadn't invented tablets. We coped and dd learned to spell from the hours of hangman Grin. In fact dd hates noise so it's awkward with the competing sounds these days, autism varies a lot

XenoBitch · 30/04/2024 21:23

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/04/2024 21:20

I ran up and down a lovely waterway yesterday. Passed the same woman twice who spent the entire 30 minutes (I'm assuming, I was only near her for a couple) shouting into a phone on speaker. In a quiet, lovely area with dog walkers, runners, people with their children.

If you want to shout at your friends, do it at home!

See, that makes no sense to me.
I call someone on my phone, I hold my phone to the side of my head. Since when has it been a thing to talk into your phone like it was a fucking kazoo?

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/04/2024 21:20

I ran up and down a lovely waterway yesterday. Passed the same woman twice who spent the entire 30 minutes (I'm assuming, I was only near her for a couple) shouting into a phone on speaker. In a quiet, lovely area with dog walkers, runners, people with their children.

If you want to shout at your friends, do it at home!

surreygirl1987 · 30/04/2024 21:08

Makirocks23 · 30/04/2024 19:31

We are the same, my son has Autism among other things and we have never used screens in public, we use other coping mechanisms and keep outings as short and sweet as we can.
in the past loud noises from devices around him have actually upset and unsettled him due to sensory overload and we have had to leave or move on more than one occasion.
obvIously everyone is different and has different coping mechanisms, however, some people are oblivious to how their actions are affecting others. It seems to be common place now along with toddlers and smartphones in pushchairs.

Yes same. Actually, I'm fairly surely I'm autistic too, and I find the awful tinny noise of videos playing on phones etc really grating. If I get to the point where I feel like I need to give my kids screens when out and about (not saying it will never ever happen, but so far so good), it will be with headphones.

XenoBitch · 30/04/2024 20:40

I was in a Costa today. A family came in.... one kid immediately had a tablet thrust in front of him.. on loud. Loads of beeping! Another kid appeared to have a meltdown due to the noise and got taken outside. She was spinning and dancing outside, came back in.... melted down again. Mum was knackered, and kept apologising.
Fucking chaos.

I do think there is a real issues about screen addiction. Why are people putting screens in front of toddlers, and sometimes babies. What happened to interacting with your own kids?

Isitthathardtobekind · 30/04/2024 20:33

Toddlers in pushchairs and trolleys with phones make me so sad. How did anyone manage before?! Yes sometimes a trip to the shop could be hard work, but also a great chance to chat to the child about the things being bought or pointing things out. People just want an excuse now to have things as easy as possible.

Mine are young teens now but I remember a time when they were 3 and 4 when I took them to a cafe for lunch and a lady came over to say to me how nice it was seeing us sitting and chatting. She said she didn’t see it much anymore and that was 9/10 years ago.

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Makirocks23 · 30/04/2024 19:31

surreygirl1987 · 28/04/2024 18:22

My son is autistic and has ASD and we have never used screens in restaurants. We take books, colouring dot to dot, whatever. If he kicks off, we take him outside. He is autistic and I expect reasonable adjustments for him, but I think subjecting everyone to full volume paw patrol or whatever is unreasonable.

We are the same, my son has Autism among other things and we have never used screens in public, we use other coping mechanisms and keep outings as short and sweet as we can.
in the past loud noises from devices around him have actually upset and unsettled him due to sensory overload and we have had to leave or move on more than one occasion.
obvIously everyone is different and has different coping mechanisms, however, some people are oblivious to how their actions are affecting others. It seems to be common place now along with toddlers and smartphones in pushchairs.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 30/04/2024 19:19

I agree with you about noisy phones although I do always try to suck tablets quietly, except of course the suppositories, with thise I have to just grit my teeth and clench them, and hope no-one is looking. 😵

Isitthathardtobekind · 30/04/2024 19:11

elevens24 · 29/04/2024 18:36

The screens thing is very annoying. I had to sit recently through 2 hours of peppa pig on a plane. So inconsiderate.

I've also noticed that lots of people walk around on video call or loud speaker. Why?? I wouldn't want random people to hear me through a phone.

Agree this has definitely increased! Working in a school, so many parents now arrive having video call or loudspeaker conversations. Usually they are pushing a pram too so I assume it makes it easier for them maybe to not hold it to their ear; however the ideal would obviously be for them to collect their children and focus on that and not their phones!

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elevens24 · 29/04/2024 18:36

The screens thing is very annoying. I had to sit recently through 2 hours of peppa pig on a plane. So inconsiderate.

I've also noticed that lots of people walk around on video call or loud speaker. Why?? I wouldn't want random people to hear me through a phone.

Fizbosshoes · 29/04/2024 18:05

Half the people on my usual train either

  • have no headphones = most of the carriage can hear what they're listening to
- have headphones turned up so loud they may as well not bother = only half the carriage can hear.

It drives me insane.

Allfur · 29/04/2024 17:58

Agree, I always ask them to turn it down, be it a loud face timer or a Peppa pig fiend

MayYourToastLandButterSideUp · 29/04/2024 17:58

had this experience in both A&E & minor injuries recently, loud phones despite people with head injuries who had headaches. I didn’t have a headache initially whilst sat with relative, I did after 2 hours of listening to it, at which point another person waiting told them to turn it down. Selfish lazy parenting.

Idunno8 · 29/04/2024 17:52

I think it’s extremely obnoxious. I have two small children and wouldn’t dream of letting them have their tablets on loud in a public place, to be fair we rarely take them out but I appreciate different strokes for different folks and some children have different sensory needs, but headphones exist for a reason.
I have to move tables/ areas before due to tablet noise. Honestly I would leave an establishment if moving didn't fix the noise issue, I’m not paying good money, to hear a tinny little ping ping ding every few seconds.

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 29/04/2024 17:50

And there was a poster claiming it didn't affect/annoy younger generations!

I suspect it's sensitivity range not age issue - there is always a bell curve and some people won't be bothered by any noise others tiniest sounds cause issue but bulk of people falling in-between in range between two extremes.

I think behavior changed and noise levels have increased and people like me and kids who could cope in public easily in past increasingly find we struggle.

Allfur · 29/04/2024 17:45

Mushroo · 29/04/2024 17:43

Um, I’d also expect you to not talk if you’re sat in the quiet carriage.

Its nowhere near as bad as phones but the quiet carriage should be, well, quiet!

You're allowed to talk quietly in the quiet carriage, just no devices