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Witch hunt for old woman

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DogsBehavingWrongly · 28/04/2024 08:33

Yesterday a woman was walking her dog when it was attacked by an offlead dog. Offlead dog was owned by elderly woman who always walks dog in this same area daily. She says the dog has never done this before. Attacked dog was limping after the attack and elderly woman was asked for her details (after been shouted at by other woman). She refused to give any details and rushed off home.

Woman with attacked dog then posts on Facebook saying what happened and asks if anyone knows the woman as she wants the vet bills taken care off. This then starts a witch hunt on Facebook of people trying to identify old woman and suggesting people follow her home etc to get her address. A relative of old woman then posts that her grandmother is terrified at what is happening and asks for people to leave her alone as she’s now too scared to leave the house.

im torn on this - on one hand accidents do happen, dogs are unpredictable sometimes and this elderly woman has previously walked her dog in this manner with no issues. On the other hand, I’m sick to death of irresponsible dog owners and am fearful everytime I walk my dog that she will be attacked by an offlead dog. This area is full of the “it’s ok, he’s friendly!” Types.

Where would you stand on this? IMO the elderly woman (or her relative) needs to do the right thing, accept responsibility and pay the vet bills.

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CwmYoy · 28/04/2024 10:03

Surely the injured dog's owner can claim on their insurance.

Bullying on Facebook is never acceptable. The elderly woman was verbally attacked and was frightened.

Of course she should have given her details but the angry owner was shouting and aggressively demanding. She was afraid.

newyorkhotel · 28/04/2024 09:55

If the poster is genuinely just trying to find the person, they could turn comments off and ask to be privately messaged

If the older lady is genuinely sorry and just panicked in the moment then she could also privately message the person with her details and offer to pay- this works both ways

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 28/04/2024 09:53

If the poster is genuinely just trying to find the person, they could turn comments off and ask to be privately messaged.

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This

Naunet · 28/04/2024 09:52

ZipZapZoom · 28/04/2024 09:42

So you think the women with the injured dog is just making the whole thing up? If the older women's dog didn't attack another dog why is it a witch hunt, if she's done nothing wrong then she's nothing to worry about!

Maybe the other woman’s dog was the one to start it and attacked first, seeing as the older woman has said her dog has never done this before? But sure, let’s find her guilty here too without ever hearing her side 🙄 Like I said, we’re all lucky courts don’t behave like this.

If a woman accused of being a witch, isn’t a witch, she’s got nothing to worry about, right?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 28/04/2024 09:50

Naunet
So no one has heard the older ladies side of the story, but have all found her guilty based on this other woman’s word? How lucky courts don’t take the same approach.

So you think the women with the injured dog is just making the whole thing up? If the older women's dog didn't attack another dog why is it a witch hunt, if she's done nothing wrong then she's nothing to worry about!

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But the problem with this kind of scenario when both sides haven't been fully heard is that it brings out the Keyboard Vigilantes who then share posts creating more traction and more Warriors who don't think beyond what they are reading.

I'm only 50 and I would find it frightening to see that level of internet traffic directed at me by strangers.

You need to be extremely careful when posting on SM platforms as once it's out there you have feck all control. Thanks here are too many, quite frankly, thick nasty idiots who will join the pile on just for something to do.

And for the avoidance of f doubt if the incident genuinely happened as described the elderly lady and her family should absolutely taking steps to make this right and prevent it from happening again.

Mintleafcocktail · 28/04/2024 09:44

if she's done nothing wrong then she's nothing to worry about!

Yep- and why would she say the dog has "never done it before" if it didnt actually happen?- why on earth would you say that if nothing happened at all?

ZipZapZoom · 28/04/2024 09:42

Naunet · 28/04/2024 09:27

So no one has heard the older ladies side of the story, but have all found her guilty based on this other woman’s word? How lucky courts don’t take the same approach.

So you think the women with the injured dog is just making the whole thing up? If the older women's dog didn't attack another dog why is it a witch hunt, if she's done nothing wrong then she's nothing to worry about!

Genevieva · 28/04/2024 09:39

Testingprof · 28/04/2024 09:08

Can you show that law? I ask as my dog was attacked in similar circumstances and no one would do anything. The dog warden or the police, thankfully a local vet sorted my dog out for nothing.
Then a friends dog was in a fight (the other owner claimed their dog was attacked ) and the insurance company said no it was not provable that one dog was solely to blame so their vet bills were theirs alone.

Thought I had replied directly, but I didn’t do it right. Reply above.

Mintleafcocktail · 28/04/2024 09:38

Georgethecat1 · 28/04/2024 09:17

Change old lady to young man and I think someone would have a different opinion on whether the Facebook post was acceptable. Regardless of age or sex she needs to own up and pay.

This. If this had been a young lad, literally noone would be calling it a witch hunt.

Stupid woman should pay for the damage caused by her dog and she shouldn't be walking it if she cant control it. Zero sympathy for people (of any age) who take no responsibility for their dog's behaviour.

Also if she's saying "its never done this before" then that is surely an admission that it did in fact happen!

AlwaysGinPlease · 28/04/2024 09:33

exomoon · 28/04/2024 08:38

She should pay. It’s not a witch hunt, it’a identifying an irresponsible dog owner.

This. Regardless of her age, she's at fault. It's not a witch hunt at all. Ridiculous. Poor dog!

TobaccoFlower · 28/04/2024 09:28

Ohnobackagain · 28/04/2024 08:54

@DogsBehavingWrongly it’s like a lot of things. People should do the right thing - i.e. take responsibility.

It is not wrong to ask for help identifying someone - a post asking people who might know to message the person privately. But what tends to happen is bystanders take sides - a bit like here on MN - when they didn’t see what actually happened. Locally a school bus driver’s photo was plastered over SM because someone’s kid got told to get off a bus supposedly for bad behaviour. I still don’t know whether driver was guilty/child innocent or vice versa or 50:50 because I wasn’t there. But what followed (driver’s photo, name and address on SM and people threatening him) was completely unacceptable - and the child’s parent was responsible for that at least in part even if it was not intended.

Have to consider the consequences.

None of this prevents the elderly dog owner from messaging the other owner and setting things straight. But it will be hard to stop people getting involved when it doesn’t concern them 🤷🏻‍♀️

The chances of a bus driver ordering a well behaved boy off the bus are pretty slim I'd say.

Naunet · 28/04/2024 09:27

So no one has heard the older ladies side of the story, but have all found her guilty based on this other woman’s word? How lucky courts don’t take the same approach.

ZipZapZoom · 28/04/2024 09:20

countrygirl99 · 28/04/2024 09:18

Dream on. They would have asked if she knew who owned the attacking dog and when she didn't they would have filed it.
If she did know they would maybe have sent someone round for a chat if they had a PC with time on their hands, so probably still nothing.

Edited

Exactly. The police aren't going to do anything, they wouldn't even turn up around here and we don't have a dog warden?

countrygirl99 · 28/04/2024 09:18

Flickersy · 28/04/2024 09:07

The lady whose dog was attacked should have called the police / local dog warden and dealt with it through the official channels.

She should not have whipped up a mob on Facebook.

Dream on. They would have asked if she knew who owned the attacking dog and when she didn't they would have filed it.
If she did know they would maybe have sent someone round for a chat if they had a PC with time on their hands, so probably still nothing.

Georgethecat1 · 28/04/2024 09:17

Change old lady to young man and I think someone would have a different opinion on whether the Facebook post was acceptable. Regardless of age or sex she needs to own up and pay.

CandiedPrincess · 28/04/2024 09:14

Being old doesn't absolve you from responsibility or common decency.

saraclara · 28/04/2024 09:12

sympatheticparrot · 28/04/2024 08:54

This

I've seen these types of posts and comments on Facebook, and they turn horribly nasty. I can't imagine being on the other end of it.

If the poster is genuinely just trying to find the person, they could turn comments off and ask to be privately messaged.

Testingprof · 28/04/2024 09:08

Genevieva · 28/04/2024 08:44

It is very straightforward. The law states that owners are responsible for harm and damage caused by their dogs, but not by their cats. She is responsible and needs to pay. She should not have run away. Being old isn’t an excuse.

That said, verbally abusing someone is unacceptable and, if this is the cause of them feeling fearful and running away (which sounds likely) then there are mitigating circumstances.

People who weren’t there and aren’t connected to either party shouldn’t get involved.

Can you show that law? I ask as my dog was attacked in similar circumstances and no one would do anything. The dog warden or the police, thankfully a local vet sorted my dog out for nothing.
Then a friends dog was in a fight (the other owner claimed their dog was attacked ) and the insurance company said no it was not provable that one dog was solely to blame so their vet bills were theirs alone.

Flickersy · 28/04/2024 09:07

The lady whose dog was attacked should have called the police / local dog warden and dealt with it through the official channels.

She should not have whipped up a mob on Facebook.

OneTC · 28/04/2024 09:03

The SM shit is wrong regardless

OneTC · 28/04/2024 09:03

For me it would depend on the circumstances of the attack and how the confrontation that followed played out.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 28/04/2024 09:00

Onetiredbeing · 28/04/2024 08:45

And what does her being elderly have to do it with. She ran away like a slimy crook when her dog attacked and caused harm to another! Good, I absolutely loathe these people who leave their dogs off lead and think they have them under control.

^ This.

She needs to pay the vet bill IF the dog has been injured/needed veterinary attention.
I’ve yanked dogs off my elderly dogs back end, it’s painful for him. I’ll have a go at the owner too. Keep your ill mannered dog away from my golden boy!

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 28/04/2024 08:59

If your dog hurts someone else’s then the only decent thing to do is to hand over your details.

Hounding on sm is awful but it wouldn’t have been necessary to find her if she had done the correct thing in the first place.

Ohnobackagain · 28/04/2024 08:54

@DogsBehavingWrongly it’s like a lot of things. People should do the right thing - i.e. take responsibility.

It is not wrong to ask for help identifying someone - a post asking people who might know to message the person privately. But what tends to happen is bystanders take sides - a bit like here on MN - when they didn’t see what actually happened. Locally a school bus driver’s photo was plastered over SM because someone’s kid got told to get off a bus supposedly for bad behaviour. I still don’t know whether driver was guilty/child innocent or vice versa or 50:50 because I wasn’t there. But what followed (driver’s photo, name and address on SM and people threatening him) was completely unacceptable - and the child’s parent was responsible for that at least in part even if it was not intended.

Have to consider the consequences.

None of this prevents the elderly dog owner from messaging the other owner and setting things straight. But it will be hard to stop people getting involved when it doesn’t concern them 🤷🏻‍♀️

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